Oh my, the Supreme Plan. I love the nuances of english in marketing. I can't see a phone plan ever being called Supreme in the US, and yet it seems perfectly normal for pizza.
Oh my, the Supreme Plan. I love the nuances of english in marketing. I can't see a phone plan ever being called Supreme in the US, and yet it seems perfectly normal for pizza.
You heard it here first. Not that I have any solid info to base this on, just that the timing is right.
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig
Its the presidential inauguration, nobody would be listening. It would either have to be wednesday to next tuesday.
Correct. Unless Apple is going to wrap themselves in the flag for a special announcement (which is possible, just as Hollywood is currently neck deep in Obama-mania) I think next Tuesday (Jan 27th) is the day.
Its the presidential inauguration, nobody would be listening. It would either have to be wednesday to next tuesday.
First; you would have to be fairly weak minded to get to wraped up in the presidential hype.
Second; Apple has indicated clearly that old marketing methods are being replaced. There is also the reality that if the new machines are minor update there won't be need for a big show. On the otherhand if the machines are truly innovative the community will take note and hype them all on the there own.
Third; successful marketing is never a one day event.
Second; Apple has indicated clearly that old marketing methods are being replaced.
Yes, but public attention cannot be replaced or overlooked.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
There is also the reality that if the new machines are minor update there won't be need for a big show. On the otherhand if the machines are truly innovative the community will take note and hype them all on the there own.
I agree on the first part. For the second, we already know Apple's practice as of lately: special event. And there is none planned anytime soon.
In a first since iPhone 3G sales began this past summer, T-Mobile's Austrian division launched a discount for Apple's entry-level 8GB handset.
The deal, discovered by iLounge, reduces the price of the iPhone from its normal €99 ($131) to €1 when a customer signs up for a €45 ($60) monthly Supreme plan. It also gives the new subscriber their first month's service for free and, if the phone is ordered online, a further instant discount of €45.
Although multiple carriers have refined their service plans since the iPhone 3G launch, none have until now budged the price of the phone proper. It's not known what T-Mobile's incentives are behind the discount, which doesn't have a specified end.
big deal.
iphone models are free in australia on plans. No doubt this is spurred by a lack of 8GB sales due to the small discrepancy in the total cost of ownership between the 8GB and the 16GB models and the fact that people with expanding audiovisual libraries aren't idiots. I think it's ironic that they would try to market the "gimped" handset to people on a "premium" plan.... sure.... so every Austrian women wears 50c polyester socks with their Manolo Blahniks.
Intel's new i7 platform is really nice but boy is it expensive. The motherboards currently retail for four times that of a normal C2D motherboard and DDR3 RAM hasn't yet hit the bargain basement prices of DDR2. Even if there was a mobile version, I can't see Apple adopting the i7 yet.
First; you would have to be fairly weak minded to get to wraped up in the presidential hype. Dave
mmmm ... I like to think I have a pretty good mind, I am fascinated by the events unfolding and the world wide interest. Was that a cheap political shot or am I missing a joke?
mmmm ... I like to think I have a pretty good mind, I am fascinated by the events unfolding and the world wide interest. Was that a cheap political shot or am I missing a joke?
Sadly, I think the post was from a bitter person who does not agree with the general population of the US, who elected Barack Obama, and the world, who are anxiously awaiting him to steer the US in a better direction.
Refurbs are listed whenever Apple finishes repairing what's in their stock of broken Macs. It is a complete coincidence.
Refurbs are not always broken Macs that are repaired by Apple. Some are customer returns, etc. A good stock of refurbs has nothing to do with upcoming releases. If Apple has new stock in inventory when a new model comes out, those are sold at clearance, not refurb.
Reviews of the 8-core Mac Pro confirmed the extra cores were pretty much useless anyway. So unless the software can take advantage of it, you are wasting your money.
I call BS on this. Many of Apple's applications utilize all the cores. Even iPhoto uses all the cores. HD video can use 8 cores for hours at a time. With Parallels or Fusion, you can assign multiple cores to Windows while keeping multiple cores for Mac OS X. I'm using all 8 cores in my Mac Pro with software that wasn't even written for multicore support. I'm running multiple instances of software on the Windows side.
I'm never buying another PC that doesn't have at least four cores. I need the horsepower.
I guess if you just sit around all day and write whiney posts about useless cores, you probably don't need them.
Regardless if the software is written for multi-cores or not.. using multiple apps at the same time DOES. So whatever you're talking hillstones is complete fudd.
I call BS on this. Many of Apple's applications utilize all the cores. Even iPhoto uses all the cores. HD video can use 8 cores for hours at a time. With Parallels or Fusion, you can assign multiple cores to Windows while keeping multiple cores for Mac OS X. I'm using all 8 cores in my Mac Pro with software that wasn't even written for multicore support. I'm running multiple instances of software on the Windows side.
I don't get why anybody is arguing about Nehalem vs these Quad Core CPUs and using # of cores as an arugment. I don't know why the OP brought up number of threads/cores. Except for hyperthreading, Nehalem doesn't add any new cores.
What Nehalem does bring is better pipelining, a MUCH faster memory bus architecture, incremental ISA changes and on-die power management. The Anandtech review of Nehalem showed Nehalem had a 20-50% performance advantage over Penryn, clock & core comparable (but Nehalem can be clocked higher than Penryn, so it's an even bigger advantage). Clock for clock, Nehalem/Core i7 is 5-10% faster in non-memory bound applications. Memory-bound applications such as photo editing, video editing and number crunching can be up to 20-40% faster thanks to the replacement for FSB and on-die memory controller. It does all this while keeping the TDP at the same levels as Penryn, or 10% higher than Penryn when fully utilized.
BTW you can get a Core i7 system with 3GB RAM, 1TB HD and 20" monitor for the price of a low end iMac--and it easily outperforms the Mac Pros which retail for $2799. Now imagine if Apple uses these outdated processors for the next iMac, and waits another 6 months to update the iMac.
BTW you can get a Core i7 system with 3GB RAM, 1TB HD and 20" monitor for the price of a low end iMac--and it easily outperforms the Mac Pros which retail for $2799. Now imagine if Apple uses these outdated processors for the next iMac, and waits another 6 months to update the iMac.
There is no, repeat, no way that you can get a 130 watt TDP cpu in the iMac. Not.. going.. to.. happen. Core i7 will never see the inside of an iMac.
Why should users have to wait until Intel release low power desk top nehalem cpus or worse yet, mobile nehalem cpus? That is months away. Who knows they may delay the release of these chips.
The low power desk top penryn cpus are the best available cpu for the iMac at the moment. They need to get it into the iMac as soon as possible.
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The refurbished section says nothing about product updates. Believe me I've been watching it since August.
it says nothing, did you see the listed items? all the current Macs are there ... I do not think it is just a coincidence
it says nothing, did you see the listed items? all the current Macs are there ... I do not think it is just a coincidence
No minis though, unless they already sold..
Oh my, the Supreme Plan. I love the nuances of english in marketing. I can't see a phone plan ever being called Supreme in the US, and yet it seems perfectly normal for pizza.
I don't get it... What are you talking about?
it says nothing, did you see the listed items? all the current Macs are there ... I do not think it is just a coincidence
Refurbs are listed whenever Apple finishes repairing what's in their stock of broken Macs. It is a complete coincidence.
You heard it here first. Not that I have any solid info to base this on, just that the timing is right.
Its the presidential inauguration, nobody would be listening. It would either have to be wednesday to next tuesday.
Correct. Unless Apple is going to wrap themselves in the flag for a special announcement (which is possible, just as Hollywood is currently neck deep in Obama-mania) I think next Tuesday (Jan 27th) is the day.
No minis though, unless they already sold..
Refurbished minis always sell out almost instantly.
Its the presidential inauguration, nobody would be listening. It would either have to be wednesday to next tuesday.
First; you would have to be fairly weak minded to get to wraped up in the presidential hype.
Second; Apple has indicated clearly that old marketing methods are being replaced. There is also the reality that if the new machines are minor update there won't be need for a big show. On the otherhand if the machines are truly innovative the community will take note and hype them all on the there own.
Third; successful marketing is never a one day event.
Dave
Second; Apple has indicated clearly that old marketing methods are being replaced.
Yes, but public attention cannot be replaced or overlooked.
There is also the reality that if the new machines are minor update there won't be need for a big show. On the otherhand if the machines are truly innovative the community will take note and hype them all on the there own.
I agree on the first part. For the second, we already know Apple's practice as of lately: special event. And there is none planned anytime soon.
In a first since iPhone 3G sales began this past summer, T-Mobile's Austrian division launched a discount for Apple's entry-level 8GB handset.
The deal, discovered by iLounge, reduces the price of the iPhone from its normal €99 ($131) to €1 when a customer signs up for a €45 ($60) monthly Supreme plan. It also gives the new subscriber their first month's service for free and, if the phone is ordered online, a further instant discount of €45.
Although multiple carriers have refined their service plans since the iPhone 3G launch, none have until now budged the price of the phone proper. It's not known what T-Mobile's incentives are behind the discount, which doesn't have a specified end.
big deal.
iphone models are free in australia on plans. No doubt this is spurred by a lack of 8GB sales due to the small discrepancy in the total cost of ownership between the 8GB and the 16GB models and the fact that people with expanding audiovisual libraries aren't idiots. I think it's ironic that they would try to market the "gimped" handset to people on a "premium" plan.... sure.... so every Austrian women wears 50c polyester socks with their Manolo Blahniks.
First; you would have to be fairly weak minded to get to wraped up in the presidential hype. Dave
mmmm ... I like to think I have a pretty good mind, I am fascinated by the events unfolding and the world wide interest. Was that a cheap political shot or am I missing a joke?
mmmm ... I like to think I have a pretty good mind, I am fascinated by the events unfolding and the world wide interest. Was that a cheap political shot or am I missing a joke?
Sadly, I think the post was from a bitter person who does not agree with the general population of the US, who elected Barack Obama, and the world, who are anxiously awaiting him to steer the US in a better direction.
Refurbs are listed whenever Apple finishes repairing what's in their stock of broken Macs. It is a complete coincidence.
Refurbs are not always broken Macs that are repaired by Apple. Some are customer returns, etc. A good stock of refurbs has nothing to do with upcoming releases. If Apple has new stock in inventory when a new model comes out, those are sold at clearance, not refurb.
Reviews of the 8-core Mac Pro confirmed the extra cores were pretty much useless anyway. So unless the software can take advantage of it, you are wasting your money.
I call BS on this. Many of Apple's applications utilize all the cores. Even iPhoto uses all the cores. HD video can use 8 cores for hours at a time. With Parallels or Fusion, you can assign multiple cores to Windows while keeping multiple cores for Mac OS X. I'm using all 8 cores in my Mac Pro with software that wasn't even written for multicore support. I'm running multiple instances of software on the Windows side.
I'm never buying another PC that doesn't have at least four cores. I need the horsepower.
I guess if you just sit around all day and write whiney posts about useless cores, you probably don't need them.
Regardless if the software is written for multi-cores or not.. using multiple apps at the same time DOES. So whatever you're talking hillstones is complete fudd.
I call BS on this. Many of Apple's applications utilize all the cores. Even iPhoto uses all the cores. HD video can use 8 cores for hours at a time. With Parallels or Fusion, you can assign multiple cores to Windows while keeping multiple cores for Mac OS X. I'm using all 8 cores in my Mac Pro with software that wasn't even written for multicore support. I'm running multiple instances of software on the Windows side.
I don't get why anybody is arguing about Nehalem vs these Quad Core CPUs and using # of cores as an arugment. I don't know why the OP brought up number of threads/cores. Except for hyperthreading, Nehalem doesn't add any new cores.
What Nehalem does bring is better pipelining, a MUCH faster memory bus architecture, incremental ISA changes and on-die power management. The Anandtech review of Nehalem showed Nehalem had a 20-50% performance advantage over Penryn, clock & core comparable (but Nehalem can be clocked higher than Penryn, so it's an even bigger advantage). Clock for clock, Nehalem/Core i7 is 5-10% faster in non-memory bound applications. Memory-bound applications such as photo editing, video editing and number crunching can be up to 20-40% faster thanks to the replacement for FSB and on-die memory controller. It does all this while keeping the TDP at the same levels as Penryn, or 10% higher than Penryn when fully utilized.
BTW you can get a Core i7 system with 3GB RAM, 1TB HD and 20" monitor for the price of a low end iMac--and it easily outperforms the Mac Pros which retail for $2799. Now imagine if Apple uses these outdated processors for the next iMac, and waits another 6 months to update the iMac.
Consumers just want a fast computer and if Apple can deliver a Quad Core Penryn
based iMac and Snow Leopard makes that system sing then adding Nehalem when it
becomes feasible only makes things better.
BTW you can get a Core i7 system with 3GB RAM, 1TB HD and 20" monitor for the price of a low end iMac--and it easily outperforms the Mac Pros which retail for $2799. Now imagine if Apple uses these outdated processors for the next iMac, and waits another 6 months to update the iMac.
There is no, repeat, no way that you can get a 130 watt TDP cpu in the iMac. Not.. going.. to.. happen. Core i7 will never see the inside of an iMac.
Why should users have to wait until Intel release low power desk top nehalem cpus or worse yet, mobile nehalem cpus? That is months away. Who knows they may delay the release of these chips.
The low power desk top penryn cpus are the best available cpu for the iMac at the moment. They need to get it into the iMac as soon as possible.