"Better"? You obviously don't own a PPC machine. And I don't consider dropping support after less than 3 years to be adequate, particularly in the case of pro machines like the G5 quad.
Better as I've read that GC would not benefit the multi-core PPCs the way it will for Core 2 and the added work for included PPC and Intel code take longer to write and introduce more potential issues.
And not including support for an architecture in the next OS is not the same a dropping support for an architecture if Leopard is still updated and supported. I think that Mail in Leopard will be updated with Exchange support shortly after the SL release.
Better as I've read that GC would not benefit the multi-core PPCs the way it will for Core 2 and the added work for included PPC and Intel code take longer to write and introduce more potential issues.
Hell GC may not even benefit the first generation Intel Dual-Core chips (pre Penryn) as much. Intel didn't have the cache snooping benefits in that first generation that they have now where the processors know what's in 4 caches now when before it only snooped two caches.
I'm pretty sure a Quad G5 setup has the same 2 cache limitations. Yeah it sucks not to have the latest shiniest OS but SL is what it is. Intel optimized. PPC users that have the last generation will likely want to hold on for 10.7 and get the next evolution of optimizations along with a feature release
Hell GC may not even benefit the first generation Intel Dual-Core chips (pre Penryn) as much. Intel didn't have the cache snooping benefits in that first generation that they have now where the processors know what's in 4 caches now when before it only snooped two caches.
I'm pretty sure a Quad G5 setup has the same 2 cache limitations. Yeah it sucks not to have the latest shiniest OS but SL is what it is. Intel optimized. PPC users that have the last generation will likely want to hold on for 10.7 and get the next evolution of optimizations along with a feature release
Is this speculation about 10.7 or do you have specific knowledge that it will support PPC?
Is this speculation about 10.7 or do you have specific knowledge that it will support PPC?
Oh no. I don't even think Snow Leopard is going to support PPC. I think for those with Quad G5 that don't want to buy a new 'puter 10.7 may be the ticket but that's likely another 18 months away.
It's actually a free program so complaining about the price seems a bit much to me. It comes free with every Mac, you only have to pay if you want to upgrade.
Given that the original functionality of the program (the version that came for free on your computer now), is perfectly adequate, there is no over-arching reason for anyone to upgrade at all. If on the other hand you decide you can't be without the one or two new features, the price seems more than fair IMO.
The one app that is worth paying for is the new iMovie. I was never a fan of the old iMovie, yet the new version is very lacking. Frustrating not to have a decent video editing app on my Mac.
I love iPhoto and use it a lot. Together with PS its a great package. I don't want to deal with my own image folders so iPhoto is a near perfect front end for me.
iWeb has always been a big disappointment. I love Garageband. Just wish I had a musical bone in my body so I could use it :-(
The one app that is worth paying for is the new iMovie. I was never a fan of the old iMovie, yet the new version is very lacking. Frustrating not to have a decent video editing app on my Mac.
Hear Hear!
iMovie '09 looks great. Honestly I never really warmed up to iMovie '06. Sure it did a lot if you traversed the learning curve but it just didn't feel modern. iMovie '09 now looks ready to take over the mantle. It just needs plug-ins to extend it more but that can come in the future.
I was wondering when they were going to release iLife '09. Does that mean they're going to ship on Tuesday, too? I hope mine ships from Amazon.com tomorrow, because I can't wait to get it.
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
That seems reasonable to expect. I would even go farther and have an option in the parental controls that granually allows for iPhoto use, but with an option to auto-remove geotagging when exporting.
Just curious, does this Drop In/Pre-Installed deal end at one point? Or is iLife going to come standard on all new Macs from here on? Is this just a promo to give it a bit of a kick start?
Just curious, does this Drop In/Pre-Installed deal end at one point? Or is iLife going to come standard on all new Macs from here on? Is this just a promo to give it a bit of a kick start?
iLife has been standard on all new Mac purchases since its inception. iLife '09 is part of the standard install/restore until the next version is released. Presumably iLife '10 next year.
iLife has been standard on all new Mac purchases since its inception. iLife '09 is part of the standard install/restore until the next version is released. Presumably iLife '10 next year.
I don't know how, but I didn't recall that it was standard. Thanks
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
I heard flickr already has tools to prevent strangers from viewing metadata and I don't think facebook has any metadata to view either. Should be safe.
I don't know how, but I didn't recall that it was standard. Thanks
Been that way easily since the past 4 versions, including '09.
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I heard flickr already has tools to prevent strangers from viewing metadata and I don't think facebook has any metadata to view either. Should be safe.
Except when someone emails their photo to someone outside of Flickr/Facebook or uploads the JPG to a web forum thread. Google "self shots" with the search filter off and then think if those photos had geotags.
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
It might be. However, I could only find one digital camera (Nikon P6000) that actually can do real geotagging using the camera itself. Geotagging is more common in cell phone cameras.
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"Better"? You obviously don't own a PPC machine. And I don't consider dropping support after less than 3 years to be adequate, particularly in the case of pro machines like the G5 quad.
Better as I've read that GC would not benefit the multi-core PPCs the way it will for Core 2 and the added work for included PPC and Intel code take longer to write and introduce more potential issues.
And not including support for an architecture in the next OS is not the same a dropping support for an architecture if Leopard is still updated and supported. I think that Mail in Leopard will be updated with Exchange support shortly after the SL release.
Better as I've read that GC would not benefit the multi-core PPCs the way it will for Core 2 and the added work for included PPC and Intel code take longer to write and introduce more potential issues.
Hell GC may not even benefit the first generation Intel Dual-Core chips (pre Penryn) as much. Intel didn't have the cache snooping benefits in that first generation that they have now where the processors know what's in 4 caches now when before it only snooped two caches.
I'm pretty sure a Quad G5 setup has the same 2 cache limitations. Yeah it sucks not to have the latest shiniest OS but SL is what it is. Intel optimized. PPC users that have the last generation will likely want to hold on for 10.7 and get the next evolution of optimizations along with a feature release
Ditto.
Mac Pro please.
Hole burning in my pocket.
I'm wondering if any/all of the desktop updates are tied to Snow Leopard.
Hell GC may not even benefit the first generation Intel Dual-Core chips (pre Penryn) as much. Intel didn't have the cache snooping benefits in that first generation that they have now where the processors know what's in 4 caches now when before it only snooped two caches.
I'm pretty sure a Quad G5 setup has the same 2 cache limitations. Yeah it sucks not to have the latest shiniest OS but SL is what it is. Intel optimized. PPC users that have the last generation will likely want to hold on for 10.7 and get the next evolution of optimizations along with a feature release
Is this speculation about 10.7 or do you have specific knowledge that it will support PPC?
Is this speculation about 10.7 or do you have specific knowledge that it will support PPC?
I read his post to mean that PPC users should just hold onto there current Macs and then upgrade to Intel-based systems once 10.7 is out.
Is this speculation about 10.7 or do you have specific knowledge that it will support PPC?
Oh no. I don't even think Snow Leopard is going to support PPC. I think for those with Quad G5 that don't want to buy a new 'puter 10.7 may be the ticket but that's likely another 18 months away.
It's actually a free program so complaining about the price seems a bit much to me. It comes free with every Mac, you only have to pay if you want to upgrade.
Given that the original functionality of the program (the version that came for free on your computer now), is perfectly adequate, there is no over-arching reason for anyone to upgrade at all. If on the other hand you decide you can't be without the one or two new features, the price seems more than fair IMO.
The one app that is worth paying for is the new iMovie. I was never a fan of the old iMovie, yet the new version is very lacking. Frustrating not to have a decent video editing app on my Mac.
I love iPhoto and use it a lot. Together with PS its a great package. I don't want to deal with my own image folders so iPhoto is a near perfect front end for me.
iWeb has always been a big disappointment. I love Garageband. Just wish I had a musical bone in my body so I could use it :-(
The one app that is worth paying for is the new iMovie. I was never a fan of the old iMovie, yet the new version is very lacking. Frustrating not to have a decent video editing app on my Mac.
Hear Hear!
iMovie '09 looks great. Honestly I never really warmed up to iMovie '06. Sure it did a lot if you traversed the learning curve but it just didn't feel modern. iMovie '09 now looks ready to take over the mantle. It just needs plug-ins to extend it more but that can come in the future.
I checked around 11PM Pacific Time and noticed they had changed the shipping from "January" to "24 Hours".
I myself can't wait to get my hands on iMovie '09. Well, just another toy for me to play with Tuesday.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
That seems reasonable to expect. I would even go farther and have an option in the parental controls that granually allows for iPhoto use, but with an option to auto-remove geotagging when exporting.
Just curious, does this Drop In/Pre-Installed deal end at one point? Or is iLife going to come standard on all new Macs from here on? Is this just a promo to give it a bit of a kick start?
iLife has been standard on all new Mac purchases since its inception. iLife '09 is part of the standard install/restore until the next version is released. Presumably iLife '10 next year.
iLife has been standard on all new Mac purchases since its inception. iLife '09 is part of the standard install/restore until the next version is released. Presumably iLife '10 next year.
I don't know how, but I didn't recall that it was standard. Thanks
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
I heard flickr already has tools to prevent strangers from viewing metadata and I don't think facebook has any metadata to view either. Should be safe.
I don't know how, but I didn't recall that it was standard. Thanks
Been that way easily since the past 4 versions, including '09.
I heard flickr already has tools to prevent strangers from viewing metadata and I don't think facebook has any metadata to view either. Should be safe.
Except when someone emails their photo to someone outside of Flickr/Facebook or uploads the JPG to a web forum thread. Google "self shots" with the search filter off and then think if those photos had geotags.
Geotagging's major pitfall is that it allows cyber stalkers to track people. In today's world of people using Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, web forums, etc. this could be a problem, especially for minors.
It's one thing to post fun pictures of you and your friends at a party in your apartment. Its another thing when the whole globe now knows where you live.
Hopefully iPhoto '09 will have a geotagging removal feature. At least Photoshop will allow you to rip out the geotag data, if desired.
It might be. However, I could only find one digital camera (Nikon P6000) that actually can do real geotagging using the camera itself. Geotagging is more common in cell phone cameras.