You know what they say, one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Or something like that.
Safari works just fine for me. But then, I don't use or have a need for plug-ins or other feature bloat. Safari renders pages beautifully and is extremely standards compliant. As a hobbyist web developer and designer, those are much more important than frilly fluff.
Well MS should just scrap away crapplorer and make Firefox as their default browser, that way they can save on resources and money $$$$. Or.....use gecko as their IE engine cuz Trident sucks anyway. And then it will be the battle between WebKit and Gecko!!!
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
Agreed 100%. That ticks me off no end when I have to use IE on somebody else's system and typing in a URL doesn't take me directly there. The intelligent way would be to bring up Google search results only if the URL is not valid. I'm surprised and annoyed that Apple hasn't done that already. It seems like it would be the Apple way of doing things, making life easier for the user by giving you alternatives rather than just saying it can't find the website. That may be more a function of the DNS, but I can't believe Apple can't find a way around that.
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
Chrome always offers the URL first and only afterwards it displays suggestions based on search results. That was actually one of the design goals for the address bar as developer responsible for this feature (some ex-developer for Firefox) hated it when the address bar tried to be to smart for its own good.
It sometimes really help to try something out before making baseless assumptions, especially when it is freely available.
I want to know why Firefox 3.1b1 is being used for the benchmarking. 3.1b2 has been out for at least a month now, so there really isn't much excuse. I'm not sure where this article was stolen from, or the graphs, but this was NOT a fair comparison.
B2 I believe also has JIT turned on by default, so its MUCH faster now
Does AppleInsider always use out of date browsers to make comparisons? I'd assume that Apple's browser is the only one on that list which is up to date (and maybe ie).
Yeah, that was also the first thing that popped into my mind, unless someone turned on JIT manually. Anyway, even with JIT enabled Firefox 3.1 is still slower with SunSpider than the latest WebKit release, at least according to my personal tests on OSX. It's also noteworthy that Google must have made some serious optimizations for V8 with 2.0 as last time I made a performance comparison Chrome was slower on Sunspider and Dromaeo than Squirrelfish Extreme. Now it's faster on both tests despite potential biases.
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
One thing about typing in URLs is that you sometimes mistype and land on a page you would rather not have visited. If your home page is Google, you could type in 'applei' ... in the search box and it will have it listed for you with no worries about fat fingers leading you off into a bad neighborhood.
I know it is funny since that is what total novices used to do on MSN when you told them to type in the URL, but on Google it works. Sure, for IP addresses and obscure domains, typing the URL is necessary.
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Safari is also a piece of garbage
You know what they say, one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Or something like that.
Safari works just fine for me. But then, I don't use or have a need for plug-ins or other feature bloat. Safari renders pages beautifully and is extremely standards compliant. As a hobbyist web developer and designer, those are much more important than frilly fluff.
That reminds me dearly of Black & White... strange.
Who is Black & White? A previous poster here? I assure you it's not me - I've been Cubert since the beginning.
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
Agreed 100%. That ticks me off no end when I have to use IE on somebody else's system and typing in a URL doesn't take me directly there. The intelligent way would be to bring up Google search results only if the URL is not valid. I'm surprised and annoyed that Apple hasn't done that already. It seems like it would be the Apple way of doing things, making life easier for the user by giving you alternatives rather than just saying it can't find the website. That may be more a function of the DNS, but I can't believe Apple can't find a way around that.
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
Chrome always offers the URL first and only afterwards it displays suggestions based on search results. That was actually one of the design goals for the address bar as developer responsible for this feature (some ex-developer for Firefox) hated it when the address bar tried to be to smart for its own good.
It sometimes really help to try something out before making baseless assumptions, especially when it is freely available.
I want to know why Firefox 3.1b1 is being used for the benchmarking. 3.1b2 has been out for at least a month now, so there really isn't much excuse. I'm not sure where this article was stolen from, or the graphs, but this was NOT a fair comparison.
B2 I believe also has JIT turned on by default, so its MUCH faster now
Does AppleInsider always use out of date browsers to make comparisons? I'd assume that Apple's browser is the only one on that list which is up to date (and maybe ie).
Yeah, that was also the first thing that popped into my mind, unless someone turned on JIT manually. Anyway, even with JIT enabled Firefox 3.1 is still slower with SunSpider than the latest WebKit release, at least according to my personal tests on OSX. It's also noteworthy that Google must have made some serious optimizations for V8 with 2.0 as last time I made a performance comparison Chrome was slower on Sunspider and Dromaeo than Squirrelfish Extreme. Now it's faster on both tests despite potential biases.
It always struck me that this feature was for dummies in that it only really works if you never need to type in a URL. I will take another look at Chromes implementation (if they ever get a mac version out the door), but in MSIE, this was agony to someone like me who likes to type in the URL. If you know you want to go to "apppleinsider.com" and you type that in the bar and all you get is a page of search results for the term, you're already one click behind and that assumes you can find something in the results that will take you to the site in question.
One thing about typing in URLs is that you sometimes mistype and land on a page you would rather not have visited. If your home page is Google, you could type in 'applei' ... in the search box and it will have it listed for you with no worries about fat fingers leading you off into a bad neighborhood.
I know it is funny since that is what total novices used to do on MSN when you told them to type in the URL, but on Google it works. Sure, for IP addresses and obscure domains, typing the URL is necessary.
FYI, many people use a bookmark for Appleinsider.
BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!!
That is all.
is ANYONE surprised at this news?
Not me.