I certainly know of them...but not enough to know that Apple (in mobile gaming) edges them both out. Frankly, I'm surprised at that...as the 2 platforms are dedicated to gaming...and <should> be superior to the iPhone/iPod Touch at this stage in their development.
The PSP is faster graphics-wise - I think the iphone is half the speed but the PSP only has 32MB Ram vs the iphone's 128MB. With optimization, it could get pretty close.
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If that's the case, & we're only awaiting optimized game engines for real performance boosts...then - go Apple! I feel Apple can "steal" the market with their iTunes/App store - so easy to browse & purchase games....Nothing quite like it, really.
Online distribution for games works pretty well as it means globally you get access to the same apps. Some games stores only offer a limited selection. One downside to this model is the same as the issue with VOD vs Blu-Ray.
PSP games are still 700MB-1.5GB. Most iphone apps are below 100MB. Sony have an online store for their older PSone games that run on the PSP and those weigh in around 300-400MB. I think if developers can target that size of app and quality, the games will be worthwhile.
HI'll watch how things work out for these guys. Fanslaves, choose your
camp; technical=PSP, hybrid=DS, intuitive=iPod. Has for me, I'm
pretty much versatile.
I don't think the labels are accurate.
I agree the PSP is technically the best gaming quality and it's also a very capable movie player. Not so intuitive for music though. The web browsing ability is also terrible and doesn't run PDA-like apps.
The DS is the worst media player and not good for audio or video. The gaming quality is poor but would allow PDA-like apps and certain types of game. If the term hybrid was to be used it would signify a hybrid of the worst of all worlds IMO.
The iphone/ipod touch is a great media player for movies and audio and also for the PDA-like experience. The iphone is also a phone, which the others aren't. On gaming, I think it's an emerging platform that could eventually have games to rival the PSP but it will take a long time before developers give it the attention at the level Sony gets. It is intuitive but not any more so than the others in their respective fields.
I would say to summarize that hardcore gamers would get a PSP.
Casual gamers who prefer light-hearted games, generally girls, kids, old people would prefer a DS.
People who don't particularly care about games but want a decent media-capable mobile device and would play good ones if they were available would opt for the iphone/ipod touch.
I'm personally in the latter group having previously been in the PSP one. If the PSP came out with any decent games, I might have kept it but no such luck and I don't really play games much at all. I have bought a couple of games for my iphone but mostly the selection is terrible. I was happy to see games like Silent Hill and Star Wars the Force Unleashed but they don't really deserve links to those franchises.
I think the iphone/ipod has the ability to displace both of those consoles but at the same time, I don't think it will for political reasons rather than technical. Games developers have ties with the likes of Nintendo and Sony going back over a decade and they have commitments to their whole eco-system so that things happen like the 360 gets an exclusive GTA 4 expansion game.
Now that the console makers are struggling, those ties may be severed as they have to some extent already with Sony's failures but it will be in the long term. It'll be interesting to see what selection hits the premium store section. I have little doubt that NFS Undercover will be among them.
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I certainly know of them...but not enough to know that Apple (in mobile gaming) edges them both out. Frankly, I'm surprised at that...as the 2 platforms are dedicated to gaming...and <should> be superior to the iPhone/iPod Touch at this stage in their development.
The PSP is faster graphics-wise - I think the iphone is half the speed but the PSP only has 32MB Ram vs the iphone's 128MB. With optimization, it could get pretty close.
If that's the case, & we're only awaiting optimized game engines for real performance boosts...then - go Apple! I feel Apple can "steal" the market with their iTunes/App store - so easy to browse & purchase games....Nothing quite like it, really.
Online distribution for games works pretty well as it means globally you get access to the same apps. Some games stores only offer a limited selection. One downside to this model is the same as the issue with VOD vs Blu-Ray.
PSP games are still 700MB-1.5GB. Most iphone apps are below 100MB. Sony have an online store for their older PSone games that run on the PSP and those weigh in around 300-400MB. I think if developers can target that size of app and quality, the games will be worthwhile.
any more relevant than anyone else but here is what I think.
I think it's safe to say that people are slightly narrow minded when
it comes to defining these portable device. Being a "fanboy" or a
"fangirl" is quite a comftarble status unlike simply being rational
about the situation.
First, the iPod Touch and the iPhone are multimedia platform. Often,
the music player is acknowledge has it's unique feature. The iPod
Touch and iPhone is actually a pretty powerful device (memory, speed
& rendering) that can actually browse the web, run diverse types of
application and support a large array of media files.
These device are now pushing toward their gaming aspect. The Touch
Gen are unconventional for gaming, they are somewhat less technical
and more intuitive (this is the same reason some may never like the
Wii). Because of their nature, a lot of the game released for Apple
devices are crap and of homebrew quality. It was the same for the DS
when it came out, but Nintendo had more experience in blocking trash
from their platform.
It's safe to say that the Apple Premium Games will push the gaming
aspect of the Touch Gen even beyond their MVP app's. They have to.
Why? Well this brings me to my second point.
The DS and PSP which are what people call "gaming dedicated devices"
actually have a lot of multimedia potential. Sony and Nintendo are
slowly but convincingly pushing toward multi-functions devices with
new firmware, hardware and services just like Apple. Everyone is
adventuring in to everyones territory. Thats how capitalism works :P
Apple, Sony and Nintendo actions are not really surprising.
I'll watch how things work out for these guys. Fanslaves, choose your
camp; technical=PSP, hybrid=DS, intuitive=iPod. Has for me, I'm
pretty much versatile.
HI'll watch how things work out for these guys. Fanslaves, choose your
camp; technical=PSP, hybrid=DS, intuitive=iPod. Has for me, I'm
pretty much versatile.
I don't think the labels are accurate.
I agree the PSP is technically the best gaming quality and it's also a very capable movie player. Not so intuitive for music though. The web browsing ability is also terrible and doesn't run PDA-like apps.
The DS is the worst media player and not good for audio or video. The gaming quality is poor but would allow PDA-like apps and certain types of game. If the term hybrid was to be used it would signify a hybrid of the worst of all worlds IMO.
The iphone/ipod touch is a great media player for movies and audio and also for the PDA-like experience. The iphone is also a phone, which the others aren't. On gaming, I think it's an emerging platform that could eventually have games to rival the PSP but it will take a long time before developers give it the attention at the level Sony gets. It is intuitive but not any more so than the others in their respective fields.
I would say to summarize that hardcore gamers would get a PSP.
Casual gamers who prefer light-hearted games, generally girls, kids, old people would prefer a DS.
People who don't particularly care about games but want a decent media-capable mobile device and would play good ones if they were available would opt for the iphone/ipod touch.
For gaming -> PSP = hardcore, DS = casual, ipod/iphone = occasional
I'm personally in the latter group having previously been in the PSP one. If the PSP came out with any decent games, I might have kept it but no such luck and I don't really play games much at all. I have bought a couple of games for my iphone but mostly the selection is terrible. I was happy to see games like Silent Hill and Star Wars the Force Unleashed but they don't really deserve links to those franchises.
I think the iphone/ipod has the ability to displace both of those consoles but at the same time, I don't think it will for political reasons rather than technical. Games developers have ties with the likes of Nintendo and Sony going back over a decade and they have commitments to their whole eco-system so that things happen like the 360 gets an exclusive GTA 4 expansion game.
Now that the console makers are struggling, those ties may be severed as they have to some extent already with Sony's failures but it will be in the long term. It'll be interesting to see what selection hits the premium store section. I have little doubt that NFS Undercover will be among them.