Psystar presses forward with another Mac clone

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in macOS edited January 2014
Despite ongoing litigation, Mac cloner Psystar has introduced a new slimline tower also capable of running Apple's Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard operating system, starting at $600.



With the trial months away, scheduled for November, Florida-based Psystar has unveiled the oddly-named Open(3) computer along with some updates to other products in its lineup. According to the cloner's website, the Open(3) is in stock now.



For $599.99 customers receive a slimline tower with a 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB of DDR2 memory, a 500GB hard drive, and NVIDIA's GeForce 8400 GS graphics card with 256MB of video memory. FireWire does not come standard, instead requiring $79, and 802.11n wireless is another $99. A USB Bluetooth adapter costs $40 more.



Upgrade options include a 2.53 GHz Core2Quad ($180), 4GB of memory ($50), 1TB hard drive ($100), additional hard drives ($99 to $199), and a Blu-ray burner. Graphics can be bumped up to the GeForce 9500GT 512MB for $119.



Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, of course, comes installed. Psystar also sells an optional copy of iLife and iWork together for $59.99.







Meanwhile, the company has refreshed its Open Pro flagship to offer a rackmount version for servers ($1,155) that comes with a 3.16 GHz Core 2 Duo and 4GB of memory. The base tower (also $1,155) gets updated parts, including 8GB of RAM, a 1TB hard drive, and NVIDIA's GeForce9500 GT video card. Upgrades are available as well.



Apple finally sued Psystar in July 2008, and the months since have seen Psystar's counterarguments get modified and the two sides agree on a protective order.



Psystar maintains Apple is misusing its copyrights by ensuring kernel panics and infinite loops on unauthorized hardware attempting to run Mac OS X. Apple contends Psystar's circumvention of its code in order to sell the machines without Apple's permission constitutes copyright violation and is seeking an order to halt Psystar's behavior.
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  • Reply 1 of 64
    bloggerblogbloggerblog Posts: 1,812member
    Just curious, has anyone here bought anything from Psystar yet?
  • Reply 2 of 64
    I haven't bought anything from them in fear that they could go under at any minute forcing me to maintain the machine they sold me. If that's going to be the situation anyway, why not just build my own mac clone and become familiar with the process myself, and that way I don't have to pay anyone to build it for me. It's relatively easy now to build and run a mac clone, and with the refusal to offer a headless mac, it's the only solution for someone wanting more power than a mini and less power than a powermac.
  • Reply 3 of 64
    They must be feeling confident and i guess life goes on and they have a business to run.



    Having said that you can only poke a stick at a Leopard for so long before before it bites your arm off.
  • Reply 4 of 64
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,403member
    LOL, might as well i guess. Not gonna be here months from now so might as well get while the gettin is good.



    I can't wait for them to disappear (this is coming from someone that builds hacks for a hobby). They are bad for apple and bad for the community. The sad thing is they didn't even innovate getting OS X to work on intel machines! LOL
  • Reply 5 of 64
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post


    They must be feeling confident and i guess life goes on and they have a business to run.



    Bernie Madoff had a business to run.
  • Reply 6 of 64
    crebcreb Posts: 276member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    Just curious, has anyone here bought anything from Psystar yet?



    Hell no!



    These types of companies will push the boundaries until they die, and then reorganize under another name.
  • Reply 7 of 64
    kerrybkerryb Posts: 270member
    Is this clone make really any threat to Apple's hardware sales? The only people interested in running Mac OS X on non Apple hardware are geeks that love tinkering with wires and circuits. Having said that I think Apple will need to make an expensive example of Piss-star. I can imagine a future with people bringing clones to the Genius bar demanding free help and then another law suit coming from Apple's refusal to honor their legitimate copies of OS X.
  • Reply 8 of 64
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,743member
    Who really cares.



    They can can go ahead and churn out this cheap shit as much as they like, because the show's over soon, anyway. Best thing to do is milk the clone-cow while it lasts.



    It's a shame that this fly-by-night operation won't get closed down sooner, but such is life. November should be fun.
  • Reply 9 of 64
    More competition is great.



    Goes to show you how much of a premium you pay for Apple products lol.
  • Reply 10 of 64
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Bernie Madoff had a business to run.



    LOL He sure did. Although i wonder on who's behalf he ran that business.

    Brings a whole new meaning to the word Philanthropy.
  • Reply 11 of 64
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kerryb View Post


    Is this clone make really any threat to Apple's hardware sales?



    Not by themselves, no.

    But if Apple does not press the issue with Psytar as a commercial entity (not Joe 6-pack doing a Hackintosh), then Dell (or someone else) could easily step in and make clones and Apple would not have a leg to stand on since they did not try to enforce their copyright or intellectual property (or whatever).
  • Reply 12 of 64
    cu10cu10 Posts: 294member
    This company's got courage; I'll give them that.
  • Reply 13 of 64
    kerrybkerryb Posts: 270member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    Not by themselves, no.

    But if Apple does not press the issue with Psytar as a commercial entity (not Joe 6-pack doing a Hackintosh), then Dell (or someone else) could easily step in and make clones and Apple would not have a leg to stand on since they did not try to enforce their copyright or intellectual property (or whatever).



    see the rest of post.
  • Reply 14 of 64
    Interesting that this machine is not as good as the latest Mac Mini, yet costs the same... So where is the saving money thing in that?



    Although, you can pickup a Firewire 800 Texas Instruments chipped card for 20 bucks. Works well in my computer. Bluetooth is another 10. Wifi on a desktop does seem a bit silly to me, though I understand that there are those who need it.



    Though, I built a Quad core, 8600 gt, 2gb ram, 250gb HD, Firewire 800, DVD burners (2x) and case all for under what they are asking for the new offering. (And for less than the white macbook you can add a netbook to the quad machine!) I swear, if you want to take a bite out of Apple, do it with undercutting prices, not offering the same price, lower computer specs.
  • Reply 15 of 64
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,141member
    I guess "Open" has its costs huh?



    Other than the higher end 2.8Ghz processor this is absolute

    garbage.



    Sure nickel and dime me to death for Wifi, FW and Bluetooth and I

    bet each "add on" comes with driver conflicts.



    The sooner these hack jobs get the boot the better. If I want an unstable

    mess i'll build my own Hackintosh.
  • Reply 16 of 64
    apple should release their OS restrictions, and let people develop drivers for all hardware. then have a very thorough disclaimer, that if you choose to run this software on anything but an Apple system, you will receive no support.



    every hardware company would rush to release compatible drivers for OSX. people building hackintosh has only proved one thing. you can develop software for OSX that works with almost any hardware. it's just restrictions, nothing more.



    they would make so much money on OSX purchases alone. it's not like we want to use their hardware, or have them make it available to everyone. we just want their software.
  • Reply 17 of 64
    As a PC user, I wouldn't mind using OS X if given the chance. That being said, I would never buy a Hackintosh, especially from Psystar. I would only buy OS X if it legitimately came from Apple, but the chance of them releasing OS X into the wild is pretty slim.
  • Reply 18 of 64
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,743member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iReality85 View Post


    As a PC user, I wouldn't mind using OS X if given the chance. That being said, I would never buy a Hackintosh, especially from Psystar. I would only buy OS X if it legitimately came from Apple, but the chance of them releasing OS X into the wild is pretty slim.



    So get a Mac. Seriously, just do it!



    I was saying the same thing over 3 years ago. Yeah, I shelled out a bit more, but the experience since then has been all for the better. Totally worth it.
  • Reply 19 of 64
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by italiankid View Post


    More competition is great.



    Goes to show you how much of a premium you pay for Apple products lol.



    Tell me who did all the R&D, wrote all the OS code, updates the OS code, writes all the drivers, writes all the included applications, provide support for it all, etc, etc.



    Surely you don't think that is all just free. No, they roll that cost into the price of the hardware.
  • Reply 20 of 64
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,743member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by italiankid View Post


    More competition is great.



    Goes to show you how much of a premium you pay for Apple products lol.



    Competition?



    A company that steals Apple's property, modifies it illegally, and then repackages it on junk is not competition. It's theft.
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