The price would be fine since most districts overpay for things. The problem is that most districts, mine included, now want a 3 year warrenty that covers the time the equipment is in their inventory. If Apple included the warrenty for that price it would do pretty well but when you have to add it on, the price becomes a ridiculous joke.
Because of this our district goes with a local PC vendor who can deal with the machines for three years. After that they are still being used but are off the inventory books and can be dealt with in any fashion we desire.
On the left hand side, click the "Education Store" link.
From the resulting next page, on the right side under where it says, "Purchasing for your institution," I click on K-12.
Then click on Create Quote. You may have to put in your zip code at this point, and choose your district.
Once you are at the education store for institutions, scroll down and you will see the $899 white 17" iMac...which has been there almost two years now unchanged.
I don't know how to display images in my post, but there is no 17 inch iMac available after following your instructions to the letter.
Nice to see Apple listens to some of their customers. There are form factors and price points the consumer market wants but Apple won't deliver. In the case of the education market I'm sure the salesmen's voices had a lot to do with it.
Who knew you could build a barebones machine yourself with a stolen and hacked OS and SW that is cheaper than a store bought machine? Now you're just talkin' crazy.
Ha ha very funny. Truth is you couldn't and most mac users only doubted the intel switch would ever happen. I was part of x86 when the intel rumors started. Knew it was only time. Additionally, if you buy the OS it is not illegal.
The real crime is apple over charging consumers for cheap pc parts. In addition, when the cMacBook pro went unibody it was cheaper to make. Apple pass the savings to consumers. Of course not.
Glad to be correct in that Apple would release all these products while Jobs was gone. While I wish him well, it won't be until he steps down that apple will break from the iPod mentaility and branch out with mid range machines and better prices.
I didn't say give the public what they want. I was implying that they should make a bare bones eMac that would be perfect for Highschools.
I know that dude. LOL (exit. Terrible typing. Dag nab it auto correct on iPhone. LOL)
I was pointing out tyt it's better to build a hack. I look at it like this. If you have a mac pro or decent apple product buld a hack to compliment it. A better optio. Is to purchase say a mac pro older gen from an apple employee friend.
Apple charges to much and rips off the consumer. The macbooks story kills me. They could never play games using the onboard gma yet could run fcp and motion. Knowing this. Apple went out of their way to release an updates that brought the bench mark from 171% down to 79%. She then, they released a better gpu but took away FireWire and I have lost respect for apple and support the hacks when I can. As a pro user I take these moves as a slap in the face as we stood by Apple through the dark years supporting them when everyone thought they were done yet apple turns around and dumps in the pro user since the consumer is king with the iPhone and ipods. Terrible. By love their OS
The real crime is apple over charging consumers for cheap pc parts. In addition, when the cMacBook pro went unibody it was cheaper to make. Apple pass the savings to consumers. Of course not..
Cheap PC parts? Their products that are considered to be over priced aren't using Pentium CPUs or the low end C2Ds with low L2 and FSB. The CPU in the MBA alone costs around $300. Sure, you can get a faster CPU from Intel that costs less, but it's not the ULV C2D that they sell, which completely the market for the product as you can't fit typical notebook components in that system.
As for the unibody being cheaper, everything I've read points to it as being much more expensive.
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While I wish him well, it won't be until he steps down that apple will break from the iPod mentaility and branch out with mid range machines and better prices.
Jobs created Apple, Jobs booted from Apple, Jobs comes back to save Apple. I wouldn't expect another Scully to take the seat as CEO and run things like Michael Dell would. Whomever Job's successor is they will surely be Jobsian in their vision.
I don't know about the US and I haven't checked lately, but in Australia if Universities buy Macs then they automatically get the AppleCare extended warranty.
It used to be that even students and staff got it when they purchased but now (I believe) it is only when the institution itself buys it.
Still think these Macs are over-priced but just thought I would add that comment.
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The price would be fine since most districts overpay for things. The problem is that most districts, mine included, now want a 3 year warrenty that covers the time the equipment is in their inventory. If Apple included the warrenty for that price it would do pretty well but when you have to add it on, the price becomes a ridiculous joke.
Because of this our district goes with a local PC vendor who can deal with the machines for three years. After that they are still being used but are off the inventory books and can be dealt with in any fashion we desire.
To the editor/writer: Apple has been selling a 17" iMac to education customers all along. I work for a public school district here in Massachusetts and we bought 50 of them last August, and continued to buy them here and there since.
This same 17" iMac computer that they are offering is a shameful rip off for education now. For the specs it should be $500. Its specs are 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 1GB RAM, 160GB HD, Intel GMA 950 graphics. I mean seriously, in this economy, $899 for that spec is a blatant rip-off. For that money it should have identical specs to the mid-range MacBook.
i 100% agree, it isn't much for the money. for the money, they ought to have better Cpu and a better GPU, maybe the current low end GPU that the mac mini and laptops have.
I'm amazed at how quickly I've become acclimated to my 24" LCD.
Frankly I wouldn't touch a computer with a 17" screen. That's just too small for maintaining any kind of productivity IMO.
22" or greater or bust.
I went from a 15" Powerbook to a 13" MBA and that's one of the only things that bothers me, it really cramps productivity at times. But that is why I'm getting a 24" iMac to compliment it this summer when the new school year rolls around
But for a classroom setting, a 17" monitor is plenty big.
Have you ever ordered any Mac on the Education on-line store? If you have, what did you use to validate your status as a teacher/student other that just picking a name of a school and ordering a Mac and having it sent directly to your house. Apple is not Adobe in reference to validating your status.
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Their website says you can buy one desktop + one notebook + one mini per academic year. Exceedingly generous, I think.
I went from a 15" Powerbook to a 13" MBA and that's one of the only things that bothers me, it really cramps productivity at times. But that is why I'm getting a 24" iMac to compliment it this summer when the new school year rolls around
But for a classroom setting, a 17" monitor is plenty big.
You think so? Wait until you get your 24" I'm now getting to the point where a 30" isn't sounding so outlandish hahahaha.
I work for the NYC Dept. of Education, and my school has purchased plenty of the white iMacs, as well as the Aluminums.
Unfortunately, once you add in the cost of the custom image (which includes MS Office & Norton AV) for a large school system, along with a mandatory 3 year warranty, the price is actually $1199.
The 20" Aluminum w/ Superdrive ends up being $1546.
Pricey hardware, but when I consider how many of the NYC schools with PCs have been taken down with viruses, and how easily I'm able to administer machines and users with Workgroup Manager and Apple Remote Desktop, its worth it.
Fifty bucks more gets you the 20" previous generation iMac. (Look under clearance) And for those of you who don't like Apple's pricing, you should run your own business. They are selling what they consider premium hardware and software and charge what they feel the market can bear. If you can't bear it, get a PC with the specs and software you want. Really, this argument is old old old.
Fifty bucks more gets you the 20" previous generation iMac. (Look under clearance) And for those of you who don't like Apple's pricing, you should run your own business. They are selling what they consider premium hardware and software and charge what they feel the market can bear. If you can't bear it, get a PC with the specs and software you want. Really, this argument is old old old.
Your point about "running your own business" is a non sequitur and has nothing to do with the price of tea in china or someone opining about the value of this Mac.
People have every right to voice what they feel is or isn't a good deal for a particular product or servic. The argument was around before any of us were born and the argument will be around long after we're all dead.
The "well then get a PC" is the most boorish and brain-dead response a person can choke up in rebuttal.
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Because of this our district goes with a local PC vendor who can deal with the machines for three years. After that they are still being used but are off the inventory books and can be dealt with in any fashion we desire.
This is actually pretty easy to find once you know what to do...
Go to http://store.apple.com/
On the left hand side, click the "Education Store" link.
From the resulting next page, on the right side under where it says, "Purchasing for your institution," I click on K-12.
Then click on Create Quote. You may have to put in your zip code at this point, and choose your district.
Once you are at the education store for institutions, scroll down and you will see the $899 white 17" iMac...which has been there almost two years now unchanged.
I don't know how to display images in my post, but there is no 17 inch iMac available after following your instructions to the letter.
http://store.apple.com/us-k12
Maybe it makes a difference where I am (California) or something, but there is no 17 incher.
EDIT - Found it, but it wasn't easy.
Who knew you could build a barebones machine yourself with a stolen and hacked OS and SW that is cheaper than a store bought machine? Now you're just talkin' crazy.
Ha ha very funny. Truth is you couldn't and most mac users only doubted the intel switch would ever happen. I was part of x86 when the intel rumors started. Knew it was only time. Additionally, if you buy the OS it is not illegal.
The real crime is apple over charging consumers for cheap pc parts. In addition, when the cMacBook pro went unibody it was cheaper to make. Apple pass the savings to consumers. Of course not.
Glad to be correct in that Apple would release all these products while Jobs was gone. While I wish him well, it won't be until he steps down that apple will break from the iPod mentaility and branch out with mid range machines and better prices.
I didn't say give the public what they want. I was implying that they should make a bare bones eMac that would be perfect for Highschools.
I know that dude. LOL (exit. Terrible typing. Dag nab it auto correct on iPhone. LOL)
I was pointing out tyt it's better to build a hack. I look at it like this. If you have a mac pro or decent apple product buld a hack to compliment it. A better optio. Is to purchase say a mac pro older gen from an apple employee friend.
Apple charges to much and rips off the consumer. The macbooks story kills me. They could never play games using the onboard gma yet could run fcp and motion. Knowing this. Apple went out of their way to release an updates that brought the bench mark from 171% down to 79%. She then, they released a better gpu but took away FireWire and I have lost respect for apple and support the hacks when I can. As a pro user I take these moves as a slap in the face as we stood by Apple through the dark years supporting them when everyone thought they were done yet apple turns around and dumps in the pro user since the consumer is king with the iPhone and ipods. Terrible. By love their OS
The real crime is apple over charging consumers for cheap pc parts. In addition, when the cMacBook pro went unibody it was cheaper to make. Apple pass the savings to consumers. Of course not..
Cheap PC parts? Their products that are considered to be over priced aren't using Pentium CPUs or the low end C2Ds with low L2 and FSB. The CPU in the MBA alone costs around $300. Sure, you can get a faster CPU from Intel that costs less, but it's not the ULV C2D that they sell, which completely the market for the product as you can't fit typical notebook components in that system.
As for the unibody being cheaper, everything I've read points to it as being much more expensive.
While I wish him well, it won't be until he steps down that apple will break from the iPod mentaility and branch out with mid range machines and better prices.
Jobs created Apple, Jobs booted from Apple, Jobs comes back to save Apple. I wouldn't expect another Scully to take the seat as CEO and run things like Michael Dell would. Whomever Job's successor is they will surely be Jobsian in their vision.
It used to be that even students and staff got it when they purchased but now (I believe) it is only when the institution itself buys it.
Still think these Macs are over-priced but just thought I would add that comment.
The price would be fine since most districts overpay for things. The problem is that most districts, mine included, now want a 3 year warrenty that covers the time the equipment is in their inventory. If Apple included the warrenty for that price it would do pretty well but when you have to add it on, the price becomes a ridiculous joke.
Because of this our district goes with a local PC vendor who can deal with the machines for three years. After that they are still being used but are off the inventory books and can be dealt with in any fashion we desire.
To the editor/writer: Apple has been selling a 17" iMac to education customers all along. I work for a public school district here in Massachusetts and we bought 50 of them last August, and continued to buy them here and there since.
This same 17" iMac computer that they are offering is a shameful rip off for education now. For the specs it should be $500. Its specs are 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 1GB RAM, 160GB HD, Intel GMA 950 graphics. I mean seriously, in this economy, $899 for that spec is a blatant rip-off. For that money it should have identical specs to the mid-range MacBook.
i 100% agree, it isn't much for the money. for the money, they ought to have better Cpu and a better GPU, maybe the current low end GPU that the mac mini and laptops have.
Frankly I wouldn't touch a computer with a 17" screen. That's just too small for maintaining any kind of productivity IMO.
22" or greater or bust.
I'm amazed at how quickly I've become acclimated to my 24" LCD.
Frankly I wouldn't touch a computer with a 17" screen. That's just too small for maintaining any kind of productivity IMO.
22" or greater or bust.
I went from a 15" Powerbook to a 13" MBA and that's one of the only things that bothers me, it really cramps productivity at times. But that is why I'm getting a 24" iMac to compliment it this summer when the new school year rolls around
But for a classroom setting, a 17" monitor is plenty big.
Have you ever ordered any Mac on the Education on-line store? If you have, what did you use to validate your status as a teacher/student other that just picking a name of a school and ordering a Mac and having it sent directly to your house. Apple is not Adobe in reference to validating your status.
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Don't they also audit random education purchases?
Apple doesn't ask for confirmation because you can be a parent buying a computer for a child that is in school. They have the limitation that you can only buy one computer per year at discount.
Their website says you can buy one desktop + one notebook + one mini per academic year. Exceedingly generous, I think.
I went from a 15" Powerbook to a 13" MBA and that's one of the only things that bothers me, it really cramps productivity at times. But that is why I'm getting a 24" iMac to compliment it this summer when the new school year rolls around
But for a classroom setting, a 17" monitor is plenty big.
You think so? Wait until you get your 24"
Unfortunately, once you add in the cost of the custom image (which includes MS Office & Norton AV) for a large school system, along with a mandatory 3 year warranty, the price is actually $1199.
The 20" Aluminum w/ Superdrive ends up being $1546.
Pricey hardware, but when I consider how many of the NYC schools with PCs have been taken down with viruses, and how easily I'm able to administer machines and users with Workgroup Manager and Apple Remote Desktop, its worth it.
Fifty bucks more gets you the 20" previous generation iMac. (Look under clearance) And for those of you who don't like Apple's pricing, you should run your own business. They are selling what they consider premium hardware and software and charge what they feel the market can bear. If you can't bear it, get a PC with the specs and software you want. Really, this argument is old old old.
Your point about "running your own business" is a non sequitur and has nothing to do with the price of tea in china or someone opining about the value of this Mac.
People have every right to voice what they feel is or isn't a good deal for a particular product or servic. The argument was around before any of us were born and the argument will be around long after we're all dead.
The "well then get a PC" is the most boorish and brain-dead response a person can choke up in rebuttal.