Nebagakid and EmAn are right. You've just got to get with the times, man. Did Apple keep updating System 7.5 when Mac OS 8 was released? No. Did Apple keep updating Mac OS 8 when 8.5 was released? No. What about 8.5 when 9 was released? No. And 10.0 when 10.1 was released? No.
Is there some kind of a trend here?
There's really no major reasons to stick with the older versions of the OS. With Mac OS X, each major version is getting faster on the same hardware rather than progressively slower as with Classic Mac OS. That's because Apple is still optimizing and streamlining the code and introducing things like QE to accelerate graphics on new systems but that also have a zero performance hit on older systems. You can't expect to keep getting free updates forever, can you? This is a business, not a charity or some open-sourced venture.
<strong>Nebagakid and EmAn are right. You've just got to get with the times, man. Did Apple keep updating System 7.5 when Mac OS 8 was released? No. Did Apple keep updating Mac OS 8 when 8.5 was released? No. What about 8.5 when 9 was released? No. And 10.0 when 10.1 was released? No.
Is there some kind of a trend here?
There's really no major reasons to stick with the older versions of the OS. With Mac OS X, each major version is getting faster on the same hardware rather than progressively slower as with Classic Mac OS. That's because Apple is still optimizing and streamlining the code and introducing things like QE to accelerate graphics on new systems but that also have a zero performance hit on older systems. You can't expect to keep getting free updates forever, can you? This is a business, not a charity or some open-sourced venture.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So Jag will make my computer run faster? That's pretty good.
Geesh Brad! No where did I say I was looking for a free ride for OS X. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Since you don't own Apple you should too want free updates, even though that would never happen.
Sorry if it sounded like I was bashing you about the free update thing. When it was first announced that 10.2 was going to be a paid update, there were bazillions of complaints and trash talkers and would be pirates whining about it. It wasn't my intent to clump you with that group. I guess it's just that I dealt with those people for so long that it became an instinctive reflex to argue about the cost whenever the subject arises.
Anyhow, yes, the update should make a number of operations quicker overall. I have not read a single report of Jaguar making a computer anmy slower (when properly installed). Aside from the array of new features and core technologies added to various apps, the Finder itself is threaded a bit better and the sorting code for views is much faster. The "150 new features" and updates that Steve used as a marketing gimmick is actually very real. Mac OS X 10.2 is an update that, in my opinion, is very well worth the cost of updating from 10.0.
DONT! install the dutch language support. The installer has always hung while trying to install that! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
[quote]Originally posted by Proud iBook Owner 2k2:
<strong>I dont know about you ppl but I did an upgrade installation nearly 2 months ago and im running FINE! Could be your machines.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's well known that the upgrade installation is a dangerous path. It's not the machines, it's how the upgrade works. I know several people, and have read numerous reports on failing update-installations.
So, if you're having a fine experience, you're having a lot of luck!
I'm currently running 10.2.2 (will snag 10.2.3 this weekend?) and all is fine. Sometimes, however, there seems to be a lag or a general slowness to things that I didn't notice before in 10.1.5.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
But stability-wise and "everything working like it should"-wise, I couldn't be happier.
I always chuckle when I see people going "I'm perfectly happy with System 7.5.1...why should I upgrade to OS 8, much less OS X?".
That's fine, if it works for you. Knock yourself out. But I like all that OS X offers on SO many levels, I couldn't imagine using the "old stuff". It damn near kills me to have to use 9.2.2 everyday at work. I love coming home after 8 or 10 hours of that and sit down to some beautiful Aqua for a change.
"Car, schmar...I've got a PERFECTLY good horse and buggy...bah!"
Get 10.2 and you'll dig it the most, I'm sure. And I think the price is coming down some, so...
Comments
Is there some kind of a trend here?
There's really no major reasons to stick with the older versions of the OS. With Mac OS X, each major version is getting faster on the same hardware rather than progressively slower as with Classic Mac OS. That's because Apple is still optimizing and streamlining the code and introducing things like QE to accelerate graphics on new systems but that also have a zero performance hit on older systems. You can't expect to keep getting free updates forever, can you? This is a business, not a charity or some open-sourced venture.
<strong>Nebagakid and EmAn are right. You've just got to get with the times, man. Did Apple keep updating System 7.5 when Mac OS 8 was released? No. Did Apple keep updating Mac OS 8 when 8.5 was released? No. What about 8.5 when 9 was released? No. And 10.0 when 10.1 was released? No.
Is there some kind of a trend here?
There's really no major reasons to stick with the older versions of the OS. With Mac OS X, each major version is getting faster on the same hardware rather than progressively slower as with Classic Mac OS. That's because Apple is still optimizing and streamlining the code and introducing things like QE to accelerate graphics on new systems but that also have a zero performance hit on older systems. You can't expect to keep getting free updates forever, can you? This is a business, not a charity or some open-sourced venture.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So Jag will make my computer run faster? That's pretty good.
Geesh Brad! No where did I say I was looking for a free ride for OS X. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Since you don't own Apple you should too want free updates, even though that would never happen.
<strong>
So Jag will make my computer run faster? That's pretty good.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, it's great. On my iBook there was a huge improvement.
Anyhow, yes, the update should make a number of operations quicker overall. I have not read a single report of Jaguar making a computer anmy slower (when properly installed). Aside from the array of new features and core technologies added to various apps, the Finder itself is threaded a bit better and the sorting code for views is much faster. The "150 new features" and updates that Steve used as a marketing gimmick is actually very real. Mac OS X 10.2 is an update that, in my opinion, is very well worth the cost of updating from 10.0.
Maybe over, Christmas break I will pick up a copy of Jag 10.2 and then you guys can tell me the best way to install it. MAYBE!
[ 12-15-2002: Message edited by: Mac Man 020581 ]</p>
<strong>Understood Brad.
Maybe over, Christmas break I will pick up a copy of Jag 10.2 and then you guys can tell me the best way to install it. MAYBE!
[ 12-15-2002: Message edited by: Mac Man 020581 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
no maybe's
you will be happy you did. The only reason you would not get a copy of Jaguar is if you do not have the money. Otherwise, it is folly
get it, or be square!
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>or Nebagakid i don't want a screwed up computer. you forgot that one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
there's no reason why it should screw up your computer.
Click on the options button and do an archive and install. Saves your old system and copies over your users.
Any advice on what I can do with my archive folder? I'd like to log on as Root and clean it up but I can't tell if it's being used.
<strong>I dont know about you ppl but I did an upgrade installation nearly 2 months ago and im running FINE!
It's well known that the upgrade installation is a dangerous path. It's not the machines, it's how the upgrade works. I know several people, and have read numerous reports on failing update-installations.
So, if you're having a fine experience, you're having a lot of luck!
<strong>this is not the first time I read 10.2.4 and clicked onto this thread....grumbl..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I trust with the new thread title you won't go through this thread again.
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
<strong>
so am i
<strong>
I trust with the new thread title you won't go through this thread again.
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
thank you !
I don't know. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
But stability-wise and "everything working like it should"-wise, I couldn't be happier.
I always chuckle when I see people going "I'm perfectly happy with System 7.5.1...why should I upgrade to OS 8, much less OS X?".
That's fine, if it works for you. Knock yourself out. But I like all that OS X offers on SO many levels, I couldn't imagine using the "old stuff". It damn near kills me to have to use 9.2.2 everyday at work. I love coming home after 8 or 10 hours of that and sit down to some beautiful Aqua for a change.
"Car, schmar...I've got a PERFECTLY good horse and buggy...bah!"
Get 10.2 and you'll dig it the most, I'm sure. And I think the price is coming down some, so...
Look around.