Rarely has Mac maker committed resources to providing further updates for its previous-generation operating systems after having launched a major new milestone release. Instead, successive updates are often limited to critical security updates and individual component compatibility fixes.
I guess AppleInsider isn't familiar with Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11, which was released after Leopard. I would hardly call Snow Leopard a major new milestone release.
It also happens on every computer I've used, but I should point out that it's quite rare and only happens after extensive use (and also in conjunction with sleep/wake?) running several apps (10+) and switching between them a lot. It's quite inconsistent though, and once the bug is triggered it doesn't happen every time, just that it *will* come back more frequently than if the Dock is restarted.
It would make sense, at least to me, for Apple to continue to sell Leopard. Maybe give it another year or so. For me, can't see any reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard. I have an aluminum iMac 20 with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo and just 1 Gig of RAM. Not that it is hard, but I am all thumbs and don't feel the need to upgrade my memory. Leopard does not give me any troubles. So even at $29, I say skip it.
Come on PPC users - get yourselves a great new Mac!
Sure, it makes perfect sense to trash a perfectly good machine and spend thousands on a new one just because apple wants you to.
The big question I have is how long Apple will support apps like FCS and Logic on PPC. I'm not optimistic.
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I guess AppleInsider isn't familiar with Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11, which was released after Leopard. I would hardly call Snow Leopard a major new milestone release.
Sure looks like they are considering they said "rarely" instead of "never". And apple is certainly spinning SL as a major release, whether everyone agrees or not.
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It would make sense, at least to me, for Apple to continue to sell Leopard. Maybe give it another year or so. For me, can't see any reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard. I have an aluminum iMac 20 with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo and just 1 Gig of RAM. Not that it is hard, but I am all thumbs and don't feel the need to upgrade my memory. Leopard does not give me any troubles. So even at $29, I say skip it.
I guess once it ships, people benchmarking on machines like yours will answer the question of whether the upgrade is worth it. Plus there are a few new features, depends if they are ones you would want.
I suspect that you're good for at least the next 12 months, possibly 18.
After that, most developers will be dropping PPC support. By then there will be few PPC machines in use, and the cost to continue upgrades will be too high for the payback.
You don't think there will be many PowerMac G5s in use in 18 months? I can understand the other PowerPC Macs but the PowerMac G5 is still really fast today. I can see using it maybe another 3 or 4 years since it hasn't seemed to slow down at all over the past 5 years.
I can easily stay on Adobe CS4 as I probably only used about 25% of the features it already has. I would definitely like to keep seeing lots of updates to Cha-Ching, Things, and Live Interior though.
Gee. I had no idea Windows runs PPC. Re think your comment.
Windows used to run on PowerPC. You can't boot into it from Leopard though, you have to have Tiger or earlier. I think the software was called Virtual PC.
i bought a bluetooth mouse over the weekend, and as such became aware of a seemingly common problem with 10.5.7: bluetooth timeout/disconnection problems. glad to see at least that it is on the list to be fixed, so let's hope the update comes out soon
It would make sense, at least to me, for Apple to continue to sell Leopard. Maybe give it another year or so. For me, can't see any reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard. I have an aluminum iMac 20 with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo and just 1 Gig of RAM. Not that it is hard, but I am all thumbs and don't feel the need to upgrade my memory. Leopard does not give me any troubles. So even at $29, I say skip it.
You should have someone bump the RAM to 2 or 4GB for you and install Snow Leopard after it's had a few point releases. But then again there's no rush ..it isn't going anywhere but I tell you just the reports i'm reading about the stability and performance of Snow Leopard is enouraging. You don't need a 8 core Mac Pro to experience the benefits.
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Rarely has Mac maker committed resources to providing further updates for its previous-generation operating systems after having launched a major new milestone release. Instead, successive updates are often limited to critical security updates and individual component compatibility fixes.
I guess AppleInsider isn't familiar with Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11, which was released after Leopard. I would hardly call Snow Leopard a major new milestone release.
Come on PPC users - get yourselves a great new Mac!
Go ahead and buy me one. I have better things to spend my money on.
Not a major issue, but please fix the ?application switcher not always showing all running apps? bug.
Helps to quit (and thus re-launch) the Dock process in Activity Monitor until it happens again.
I don't have those problems. You have something else going on.
I don't have those problems. You have something else going on.
Hmm... maybe, but I'm not alone: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....art=0&tstart=0
It also happens on every computer I've used, but I should point out that it's quite rare and only happens after extensive use (and also in conjunction with sleep/wake?) running several apps (10+) and switching between them a lot. It's quite inconsistent though, and once the bug is triggered it doesn't happen every time, just that it *will* come back more frequently than if the Dock is restarted.
Come on PPC users - get yourselves a great new Mac!
Sure, it makes perfect sense to trash a perfectly good machine and spend thousands on a new one just because apple wants you to.
The big question I have is how long Apple will support apps like FCS and Logic on PPC. I'm not optimistic.
I guess AppleInsider isn't familiar with Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11, which was released after Leopard. I would hardly call Snow Leopard a major new milestone release.
Sure looks like they are considering they said "rarely" instead of "never". And apple is certainly spinning SL as a major release, whether everyone agrees or not.
It would make sense, at least to me, for Apple to continue to sell Leopard. Maybe give it another year or so. For me, can't see any reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard. I have an aluminum iMac 20 with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo and just 1 Gig of RAM. Not that it is hard, but I am all thumbs and don't feel the need to upgrade my memory. Leopard does not give me any troubles. So even at $29, I say skip it.
I guess once it ships, people benchmarking on machines like yours will answer the question of whether the upgrade is worth it. Plus there are a few new features, depends if they are ones you would want.
You might, but very few others would. It's just not a reasonable choice.
For those who really like Linux, it's fine, but otherwise, it's not.
For most people Linux is a real step down. I would recommend Windows first.
Gee. I had no idea Windows runs PPC. Re think your comment.
I suspect that you're good for at least the next 12 months, possibly 18.
After that, most developers will be dropping PPC support. By then there will be few PPC machines in use, and the cost to continue upgrades will be too high for the payback.
You don't think there will be many PowerMac G5s in use in 18 months? I can understand the other PowerPC Macs but the PowerMac G5 is still really fast today. I can see using it maybe another 3 or 4 years since it hasn't seemed to slow down at all over the past 5 years.
I can easily stay on Adobe CS4 as I probably only used about 25% of the features it already has. I would definitely like to keep seeing lots of updates to Cha-Ching, Things, and Live Interior though.
Gee. I had no idea Windows runs PPC. Re think your comment.
Windows used to run on PowerPC. You can't boot into it from Leopard though, you have to have Tiger or earlier. I think the software was called Virtual PC.
It would make sense, at least to me, for Apple to continue to sell Leopard. Maybe give it another year or so. For me, can't see any reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard. I have an aluminum iMac 20 with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo and just 1 Gig of RAM. Not that it is hard, but I am all thumbs and don't feel the need to upgrade my memory. Leopard does not give me any troubles. So even at $29, I say skip it.
You should have someone bump the RAM to 2 or 4GB for you and install Snow Leopard after it's had a few point releases. But then again there's no rush ..it isn't going anywhere but I tell you just the reports i'm reading about the stability and performance of Snow Leopard is enouraging. You don't need a 8 core Mac Pro to experience the benefits.