Other people's rationale of choosing matte or glossy is not in my interest at all, so why do I need to state that matte screen purchasers are also ignorant? Just because I need to guard people like you who like to draw conclusions based on your own deduction? Even if I said that "matte screen purchasers are also ignorant" is not going to change anything because you are interpreting people's word based on your own deduction anyway. From all my quotes you took earlier, none of them are saying that "whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant". It's more than obvious that the "whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant" statement is based on your own deduction and now you're accusing me of backpeddling. You're so pathetic.
Let me put your foot into your own month... because glossy screen does have its advantage. "Why did Apple choose not to use a better glossy screens out there that have much lower glare" is the question. Is that a preference matter for some people who happened to like glare? Hopefully not. Giving a matte screen option limited to the high-end model rather than increasing the cost to fix glare across all models which few people care about is obviously a much cheaper option to solve the glare issue, especially the group that buy the highest-end model have a higher portion of people that are more aware and intelligible about screen quality.
PLEASE... cut the crap of making your deductions like for example... "oh... so you mean whoever that buys a smaller screen is necessarily less intelligible about their screen than those who buy a bigger screen" You did something like that and I have enough of that already.
Still, why the lower end models don't have such options to choose from? Just because 17? MBP is still the only one with that option since the sweeping change? I don't see that as a valid answer.
You can copy/paste your posts all you want, but it doesn?t hide your statement that many, if not most, people who have differing opinions about display types are ignorant.
You can copy/paste your posts all you want, but it doesn’t hide your statement that many, if not most, people who have differing opinions about display types are ignorant.
So you want to be narrow minded that has to take people's meaning one way or the other. That's fine with me.
Let me say this. Your inappropriate deductions are more than obvious and you can't hide them.
I said many, if not most, consumers are ignorant and I can say that as many times as you want. That only goes to show your inappropriate deductions you've made several times.
Actually, it's exactly what you said. You may have meant something different but if that is the case I think you should have worded it differently. Having said that, I would like if there was the option for a matte display. The glossy I have now does bother me on rare occassions BUT provides more color depth. It's something I'd like to be able to compare side by side and make a decision on. It's all a matter of personal preference. I hate ultra glossy plasma TV's but some people prefer them.
I appreciate the fact that you are willing to judge rationally, even though we don't necessarily agree with each other.
Oh dear, another deduction made. I have a glossy screen. Wow, I can't believe you are making the same mistakes over and over again.
What is worse, being an ignorant customer because you prefer a glossy display or being an ignorant customer for buying a display you didn?t like?I guess hindsight isn?t 20/20 for everyone.
I was wondering if the glass in the 17" is removable like it is on the new iMacs. If it was, couldn't someone make a replacement that is non-glare? You could keep your glass and put it back if you needed to take it in for service.
Apple would move more Macbooks if they could license Sony's technology or create their own non gloss (no glass) option instead of what they are selling now. It's not the same screen as the glossy and unless I'm mistaken, it wouldn't be too hard to offer the same screen without the glass on it.
I'm not up to speed on particulars of the technology, if by removing the glass does one get a matte screen or not (like with the iMac), I don't know.
I'm not up to speed on particulars of the technology, if by removing the glass does one get a matte screen or not (like with the iMac), I don't know.
iFixit doesn’t even do the teardown past removing the entire lid assembly from the case. They sell the new display for $500-600 with the iSight Camera, Bluetooth, and Airport card included. If the numbers are right Apple should offer the matte option as some people surely prefer it, but with these new unibody Macs being on their 2nd revision and the 17” being the only one with the option they may not see it a viable option if too few prefer it.
Since this is just a matte option that will not be overwhelmingly popular (since many, if not most, people, are ignorant) they could release the option at any time. There is no reason to wait for a huge announcement to announce it.
What is worse, being an ignorant customer because you prefer a glossy display or being an ignorant customer for buying a display you didn’t like?I guess hindsight isn’t 20/20 for everyone.
Again and again... how pathetic can you get? Did I say whoever buy a glossy display is ignorant? No. Did I say a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one? No. Is it obvious your misunderstanding is based on your obviously inappropriate deduction? Yes. Worst and ironic of all, you're the one who said matte/glossy is just a preference matter and now you're trying to enforce me to hate glossy screen. Wow!
Answer: In short people like shiny things. Aside from the shine, there’s also a perceptible difference in sharpness and color saturation on glossy screens. These things stand out, and in a dark room free of reflections, they are indeed better. But not everyone lives in the dark.
Question: Don’t people regret their purchase later when glare, eyestrain and headaches rear their ugly heads?
Answer: In “shopping mode,” shiny, saturated, sharp is all people see. Customers aren’t trying to read the screens or move the laptops to different locations in different kinds of lighting. Shopping is almost always an emotional experience, not a rational one.
Naturally a informed consumer of the hazards of glossy displays could decide to avoid them.
Apple is selling over 50% of their Apple Store sales to NEW to Mac/first time users.
I have nothing against using glossy displays to sucker new users into a "look shiny" impulse purchase.
Just give us regulars/experienced types the option to have a matte option.
Did I say whoever buy a glossy display are ignorant?
Yes
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Did I say a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Yes
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We’ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we’d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You’ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn’t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can’t take back what you said. If you’ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn’t state what you’ve stated.
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I’ve never said that those whoever use glossy screen is ignorant.
Post #7: They just don't want to admit the issue because many ignorant consumers like the glossy screen.
Post #16: This goes to show that Apple acknowledges the glaring issue of the glossy screen already and does not want to admit it because bunch of ignorant consumers like the glossy screen.
Post #39: A large number of consumers, if not most consumers, are ignorant. Period.
With a perfect dismount into a pesonal attack
Post #40: [At Macxpress] ...then you're obviously ignorant.
iFixit doesn?t even do the teardown past removing the entire lid assembly from the case. They sell the new display for $500-600 with the iSight Camera, Bluetooth, and Airport card included. If the numbers are right Apple should offer the matte option as some people surely prefer it, but with these new unibody Macs being on their 2nd revision and the 17? being the only one with the option they may not see it a viable option if too few prefer it.
Since this is just a matte option that will not be overwhelmingly popular (since many, if not most, people, are ignorant) they could release the option at any time. There is no reason to wait for a huge announcement to announce it.
At the bottom of the third page of the ifixit teardown, they explain that the glass is sealed to the screen, so it's a no go to replace just the glass with something else.
The only way I can see Apple selling the new screen with a matte finish is if they run out of the older matte screens and have enough demand or pressure to keep providing an alternative to glossy, which they should.
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We’ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we’d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You’ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn’t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can’t take back what you said. If you’ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn’t state what you’ve stated.
You still don't want to admit your inappropriate deductions? How pathetic.
I first mentioned the glare issues on Macbooks that Apple has acknowledged of. Does that mean I'm saying "glossy screen are definitely worse than matte and now only ignorant will use glossy screen. Glossy screen sucks and matte screen rules"? No. Ironically, you're the one who has been emphasizing the pros and cons of both sides!
I also mentioned that many ignorant consumers like the glossy screen in post #7. Does that mean I'm saying "whoever uses or likes glossy screen are ignorant"? Obviously not.
I'm glad that my words are recorded because it only goes to show your obviously inappropriate deduction.
By the way, I can say it again and again that many consumers, if not all, are ignorant. There, you have it and I can say that as many times as you like. That will not hide the fact that your misunderstanding is based on your own deduction.
Man, you are cracking me up and really made my day.
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Post #7: They just don't want to admit the issue because many ignorant consumers like the glossy screen.
So that means whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant?
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
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Post #16: This goes to show that Apple acknowledges the glaring issue of the glossy screen already and does not want to admit it because bunch of ignorant consumers like the glossy screen.
So that means whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant?
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
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Originally Posted by solipsism
Post #39: A large number of consumers, if not most consumers, are ignorant. Period.
So that means whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant?
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
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Originally Posted by solipsism
With a perfect dismount into a pesonal attack
Post #40: [At Macxpress] ...then you're obviously ignorant.
Oh... so that draws to the conclusion that whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant?
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
Man, you are really cracking me up. You not only misread once, but four times.
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We?ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we?d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You?ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn?t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can?t take back what you said. If you?ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn?t state what you?ve stated.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
At the bottom of the third page of the ifixit teardown, they explain that the glass is sealed to the screen, so it's a no go to replace just the glass with something else.
The only way I can see Apple selling the new screen with a matte finish is if they run out of the older matte screens and have enough demand or pressure to keep providing an alternative to glossy, which they should.
Now that the 13? MB has gone Pro and now has a much better display it?s certainly more likely, but with this second revision in place and the 15? MBP still without the option it seems that Apple either isn?t seeing the numbers to justify the expense or they are having some problems creating it. The latter seems exceedingly unlikely.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
You?re right, type posts certainly get to me more than they should. It seems no matter how objective you are or how many times you point out where they contradict themselves they either don?t see it or simply can?t admit it. I?m somewhat fascinated by that mindset, to tell you the truth. I?ve just don?t encounter these type of people in the real world. I would really like to put them into some sort reality show. I?d watch it.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
Ironically, your personal attack and insult over here are no less than others.
You’re right, type posts certainly get to me more than they should. It seems no matter how objective you are or how many times you point out where they contradict themselves they either don’t see it or simply can’t admit it. I’m somewhat fascinated by that mindset, to tell you the truth. I’ve just don’t encounter these type of people in the real world. I would really like to put them into some sort reality show. I’d watch it.
You're the one who can't admit your own inappropriate deduction. You should probably go back to school and take a logic class.
"Bunch of ignorant consumers who like glossy screen" means "a glossy screen is necessarily a worse product than a matte ones" and "whoever likes glossy screen is ignorant"? Wow, I hope you're not telling me that whatever successful products must have very few, if not none, ignorant owners.
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Now if only you had a glossy display you could use the reflection to help you with all that backpedaling you’re doing.
Oh dear, another deduction made. I have a glossy screen. Wow, I can't believe you are making the same mistakes over and over again.
Other people's rationale of choosing matte or glossy is not in my interest at all, so why do I need to state that matte screen purchasers are also ignorant? Just because I need to guard people like you who like to draw conclusions based on your own deduction? Even if I said that "matte screen purchasers are also ignorant" is not going to change anything because you are interpreting people's word based on your own deduction anyway. From all my quotes you took earlier, none of them are saying that "whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant". It's more than obvious that the "whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant" statement is based on your own deduction and now you're accusing me of backpeddling. You're so pathetic.
Let me put your foot into your own month... because glossy screen does have its advantage. "Why did Apple choose not to use a better glossy screens out there that have much lower glare" is the question. Is that a preference matter for some people who happened to like glare? Hopefully not. Giving a matte screen option limited to the high-end model rather than increasing the cost to fix glare across all models which few people care about is obviously a much cheaper option to solve the glare issue, especially the group that buy the highest-end model have a higher portion of people that are more aware and intelligible about screen quality.
PLEASE... cut the crap of making your deductions like for example... "oh... so you mean whoever that buys a smaller screen is necessarily less intelligible about their screen than those who buy a bigger screen" You did something like that and I have enough of that already.
Still, why the lower end models don't have such options to choose from? Just because 17? MBP is still the only one with that option since the sweeping change? I don't see that as a valid answer.
You can copy/paste your posts all you want, but it doesn?t hide your statement that many, if not most, people who have differing opinions about display types are ignorant.
You can copy/paste your posts all you want, but it doesn’t hide your statement that many, if not most, people who have differing opinions about display types are ignorant.
Let me say this. Your inappropriate deductions are more than obvious and you can't hide them.
I said many, if not most, consumers are ignorant and I can say that as many times as you want. That only goes to show your inappropriate deductions you've made several times.
Actually, it's exactly what you said. You may have meant something different but if that is the case I think you should have worded it differently. Having said that, I would like if there was the option for a matte display. The glossy I have now does bother me on rare occassions BUT provides more color depth. It's something I'd like to be able to compare side by side and make a decision on. It's all a matter of personal preference. I hate ultra glossy plasma TV's but some people prefer them.
I appreciate the fact that you are willing to judge rationally, even though we don't necessarily agree with each other.
Oh dear, another deduction made. I have a glossy screen. Wow, I can't believe you are making the same mistakes over and over again.
What is worse, being an ignorant customer because you prefer a glossy display or being an ignorant customer for buying a display you didn?t like?I guess hindsight isn?t 20/20 for everyone.
I was wondering if the glass in the 17" is removable like it is on the new iMacs. If it was, couldn't someone make a replacement that is non-glare? You could keep your glass and put it back if you needed to take it in for service.
Apple would move more Macbooks if they could license Sony's technology or create their own non gloss (no glass) option instead of what they are selling now. It's not the same screen as the glossy and unless I'm mistaken, it wouldn't be too hard to offer the same screen without the glass on it.
I'm not up to speed on particulars of the technology, if by removing the glass does one get a matte screen or not (like with the iMac), I don't know.
I'm not up to speed on particulars of the technology, if by removing the glass does one get a matte screen or not (like with the iMac), I don't know.
iFixit doesn’t even do the teardown past removing the entire lid assembly from the case. They sell the new display for $500-600 with the iSight Camera, Bluetooth, and Airport card included. If the numbers are right Apple should offer the matte option as some people surely prefer it, but with these new unibody Macs being on their 2nd revision and the 17” being the only one with the option they may not see it a viable option if too few prefer it.
Since this is just a matte option that will not be overwhelmingly popular (since many, if not most, people, are ignorant) they could release the option at any time. There is no reason to wait for a huge announcement to announce it.
What is worse, being an ignorant customer because you prefer a glossy display or being an ignorant customer for buying a display you didn’t like?I guess hindsight isn’t 20/20 for everyone.
Again and again... how pathetic can you get? Did I say whoever buy a glossy display is ignorant? No. Did I say a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one? No. Is it obvious your misunderstanding is based on your obviously inappropriate deduction? Yes. Worst and ironic of all, you're the one who said matte/glossy is just a preference matter and now you're trying to enforce me to hate glossy screen. Wow!
I said that many, if not most, consumers are ignorant...
To add a point here taken from a post at MacMatte
http://macmatte.wordpress.com/
Question: Why do people choose glossy displays?
Answer: In short people like shiny things. Aside from the shine, there’s also a perceptible difference in sharpness and color saturation on glossy screens. These things stand out, and in a dark room free of reflections, they are indeed better. But not everyone lives in the dark.
Question: Don’t people regret their purchase later when glare, eyestrain and headaches rear their ugly heads?
Answer: In “shopping mode,” shiny, saturated, sharp is all people see. Customers aren’t trying to read the screens or move the laptops to different locations in different kinds of lighting. Shopping is almost always an emotional experience, not a rational one.
Naturally a informed consumer of the hazards of glossy displays could decide to avoid them.
Apple is selling over 50% of their Apple Store sales to NEW to Mac/first time users.
I have nothing against using glossy displays to sucker new users into a "look shiny" impulse purchase.
Just give us regulars/experienced types the option to have a matte option.
Did I say whoever buy a glossy display are ignorant?
Yes
Did I say a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Yes
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We’ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we’d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You’ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn’t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can’t take back what you said. If you’ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn’t state what you’ve stated.
I’ve never said that those whoever use glossy screen is ignorant.
iFixit doesn?t even do the teardown past removing the entire lid assembly from the case. They sell the new display for $500-600 with the iSight Camera, Bluetooth, and Airport card included. If the numbers are right Apple should offer the matte option as some people surely prefer it, but with these new unibody Macs being on their 2nd revision and the 17? being the only one with the option they may not see it a viable option if too few prefer it.
Since this is just a matte option that will not be overwhelmingly popular (since many, if not most, people, are ignorant) they could release the option at any time. There is no reason to wait for a huge announcement to announce it.
At the bottom of the third page of the ifixit teardown, they explain that the glass is sealed to the screen, so it's a no go to replace just the glass with something else.
The only way I can see Apple selling the new screen with a matte finish is if they run out of the older matte screens and have enough demand or pressure to keep providing an alternative to glossy, which they should.
Is it just a coincidence that the dean’s brother-in-law sells anti-glare covers for computer monitors?
Maybe... though it's a very interesting thought to consider.
Yes.
Yes.
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We’ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we’d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You’ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn’t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can’t take back what you said. If you’ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn’t state what you’ve stated.
You still don't want to admit your inappropriate deductions? How pathetic.
From post #7
I first mentioned the glare issues on Macbooks that Apple has acknowledged of. Does that mean I'm saying "glossy screen are definitely worse than matte and now only ignorant will use glossy screen. Glossy screen sucks and matte screen rules"? No. Ironically, you're the one who has been emphasizing the pros and cons of both sides!
I also mentioned that many ignorant consumers like the glossy screen in post #7. Does that mean I'm saying "whoever uses or likes glossy screen are ignorant"? Obviously not.
I'm glad that my words are recorded because it only goes to show your obviously inappropriate deduction.
By the way, I can say it again and again that many consumers, if not all, are ignorant. There, you have it and I can say that as many times as you like. That will not hide the fact that your misunderstanding is based on your own deduction.
Man, you are cracking me up and really made my day.
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
With a perfect dismount into a pesonal attack
Oh... so that draws to the conclusion that whoever uses glossy screen are ignorant?
So does that mean I said that a glossy screen is necessarily a worse screen than a matte one?
Obviously not!
Man, you are really cracking me up. You not only misread once, but four times.
Yes
That is the issue we are having with your claims. We?ve stated that each has their pros and cons, and each has a preference and we?d like to see Apple offer both options, if feasible. You?ve clearly stated over and over again starting from post #7 of this thread how much glossy screens suck and how much Apple has tricked ignorant customers into preferring them. This tactic of yours might work in a verbal conversation that isn?t recorded but your words are being recorded here. No amount of lying can?t take back what you said. If you?ve mispoke I have failed to see to correct yourself; only that you keep stating that you didn?t state what you?ve stated.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
At the bottom of the third page of the ifixit teardown, they explain that the glass is sealed to the screen, so it's a no go to replace just the glass with something else.
The only way I can see Apple selling the new screen with a matte finish is if they run out of the older matte screens and have enough demand or pressure to keep providing an alternative to glossy, which they should.
Now that the 13? MB has gone Pro and now has a much better display it?s certainly more likely, but with this second revision in place and the 15? MBP still without the option it seems that Apple either isn?t seeing the numbers to justify the expense or they are having some problems creating it. The latter seems exceedingly unlikely.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
You?re right, type posts certainly get to me more than they should. It seems no matter how objective you are or how many times you point out where they contradict themselves they either don?t see it or simply can?t admit it. I?m somewhat fascinated by that mindset, to tell you the truth. I?ve just don?t encounter these type of people in the real world. I would really like to put them into some sort reality show. I?d watch it.
It's probably pointless to continue your debate with this guy - he seems pretty expert at bending his words, and yours, to mean whatever he wants them to after the fact. The fact that he feels free to hurl insults at you (like calling you pathetic), while simultaneously proclaiming how wronged he is by others, speaks volumes. What can you do - there are just a lot of cocky, arrogant types in the tech industry who define their worth based on how smart they can attempt to look compared to others, as opposed to working towards something of real substance, both in terms of their work and their character. It's not worth your time.
Ironically, your personal attack and insult over here are no less than others.
You’re right, type posts certainly get to me more than they should. It seems no matter how objective you are or how many times you point out where they contradict themselves they either don’t see it or simply can’t admit it. I’m somewhat fascinated by that mindset, to tell you the truth. I’ve just don’t encounter these type of people in the real world. I would really like to put them into some sort reality show. I’d watch it.
You're the one who can't admit your own inappropriate deduction. You should probably go back to school and take a logic class.
"Bunch of ignorant consumers who like glossy screen" means "a glossy screen is necessarily a worse product than a matte ones" and "whoever likes glossy screen is ignorant"? Wow, I hope you're not telling me that whatever successful products must have very few, if not none, ignorant owners.
You're the one who can't admit your own inappropriate deduction. You should probably go back to school and take a logic class.
You are probably right, but since I prefer a glossy display over matte I am apparently too ignorant to gets me some learnin'.
PS: Care to use logic to describe again how ignorant people like glossy displays?