Looks about the same as what 30fps looks like coming from my Touch Pro. There's a registry hack on my phone that lets me view the fps as I record, and as long as there's sufficient lighting, it gets about 30 fps.
As far as VGA goes, just because they say it'll record at 640x480, that doesn't mean it's going to be crystal clear.
The camera on this phone is acceptable when compared to other phones. It's something I wish the 3g had honestly. I take lots of videos with my Touch Pro and it's one of the main reasons I didn't stick with the iphone.
It's pretty damn good actually! Heck, the youtube video is what my phone does. The raw video looks GREAT for a phone. Damn this phone has so much potential. If only it weren't for Apple & AT&T parenting it so much. I wish I could have all the openness of Windows Mobile with all the cool shit that comes with this new iphone. I'd have everything I ever wanted.
I do not have a reference for the following so take this "as rumor":
It appears Verizion is now has a full 3G network in anticipation of being able to compete with AT&T when their stranglehold on iPhone exclusivity runs out. I'm sure AT&T will run full out over next year to play catch up.
I personally think it's evil to force one iphone to film and watch his brother die. It probably doesn't make calls or alerts anymore, it just sits there, occasionally vibrating.
You put Windows and Open in the same sentence. WM is closed in it's own different ways. I think the iPhone has the better trade off of the two.
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If only it weren't for Apple & AT&T parenting it so much. I wish I could have all the openness of Windows Mobile with all the cool shit that comes with this new iphone. I'd have everything I ever wanted.
I guess I'm coming more from the professional nomenclature. When you say you've filmed something they will think you literally shot it on film.
I?d say it purely contextual. If the conversation calls for it a differentiation should be made, but I know I?ve oft stated in some way that I?m watching a film without considering the type of medium it was shot in or the medium it was playing off of.
With even professional movies being shot in digital more and more I think we?ll some pedantic divide but on the flip side we?ll see the already defined general use of film to mean movie broadened even more. But you never now, language evolves faster and is less logical than technology.
If you use the word as a noun as in "I'm shooting a film" is a format agnostic statement. But to use it as a verb as in "I'm filming this scene" implies that you are shooting on film.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
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I?d say it purely contextual. If the conversation calls for it a differentiation should be made, but I know I?ve oft stated in some way that I?m watching a film without considering the type of medium it was shot in or the medium it was playing off of.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
I'm not so sure about it. I'd love to talk on this more but I have get ready to take this handsome young flapper to a talkie this afternoon before hitting a speakeasy tonight.
You put Windows and Open in the same sentence. WM is closed in it's own different ways. I think the iPhone has the better trade off of the two.
Well that's like, your opinion, man. :P
I said the openness of windows mobile, but by no means am I saying the os complete open like, say, android, which is open source. It just feels like you can do whatever you want with a WM phone while with an iphone, you're forced into a preconfigured environment with very little customization. This works fine for a lot of people, but windows mobile feels more suited for meddling geeks like me.
It can depend on what you mean by "open". The iPhone as well as BlackBerry are preconfigured to meet the needs of the average consumer who is not interested in how electronics work, they are not interested in tinkering. They simply want the device to work as advertised with little effort on their part. Looking at iPhone and BlackBerry sales numbers its a winning strategy.
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Well that's like, your opinion, man. :P
I said the openness of windows mobile, but by no means am I saying the os complete open like, say, android, which is open source. It just feels like you can do whatever you want with a WM phone while with an iphone, you're forced into a preconfigured environment with very little customization. This works fine for a lot of people, but windows mobile feels more suited for meddling geeks like me.
If you use the word as a noun as in "I'm shooting a film" is a format agnostic statement. But to use it as a verb as in "I'm filming this scene" implies that you are shooting on film.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
What you're saying is true in some circles and in some contexts.
However the word "filming" also connotes video recording while the word "recording" is ambiguous as to whether both audio and video or just audio is being captured. In the context of an iPhone, I don't think anyone will be confused into thinking real film is being discussed. Thus it is more clear to use the word "film".
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I think engadget said you can record up 2GB of video at a time.
It does have a pretty decent resolution. It may have to do with hardware limitations when working with the file (cpu & ram limits)
Looks about the same as what 30fps looks like coming from my Touch Pro. There's a registry hack on my phone that lets me view the fps as I record, and as long as there's sufficient lighting, it gets about 30 fps.
As far as VGA goes, just because they say it'll record at 640x480, that doesn't mean it's going to be crystal clear.
The camera on this phone is acceptable when compared to other phones. It's something I wish the 3g had honestly. I take lots of videos with my Touch Pro and it's one of the main reasons I didn't stick with the iphone.
Helpful - thanks.
It's pretty damn good actually! Heck, the youtube video is what my phone does. The raw video looks GREAT for a phone. Damn this phone has so much potential. If only it weren't for Apple & AT&T parenting it so much. I wish I could have all the openness of Windows Mobile with all the cool shit that comes with this new iphone. I'd have everything I ever wanted.
I do not have a reference for the following so take this "as rumor":
It appears Verizion is now has a full 3G network in anticipation of being able to compete with AT&T when their stranglehold on iPhone exclusivity runs out. I'm sure AT&T will run full out over next year to play catch up.
Facts anyone?
If you listen really carefully you can hear the screams and the crying of the iPhone 3GS as it watches its brother being torn limb from limb..
Aww man. I didn't read the replies before posting. You beat me.
If only it weren't for Apple & AT&T parenting it so much. I wish I could have all the openness of Windows Mobile with all the cool shit that comes with this new iphone. I'd have everything I ever wanted.
Technically this article should say recorded instead of filmed, the iPhone doesn't shoot film
The term has evolved with the times. Film is still appropriate.
The term has evolved with the times. Film is still appropriate.
I guess I'm coming more from the professional nomenclature. When you say you've filmed something they will think you literally shot it on film.
I?d say it purely contextual. If the conversation calls for it a differentiation should be made, but I know I?ve oft stated in some way that I?m watching a film without considering the type of medium it was shot in or the medium it was playing off of.
With even professional movies being shot in digital more and more I think we?ll some pedantic divide but on the flip side we?ll see the already defined general use of film to mean movie broadened even more. But you never now, language evolves faster and is less logical than technology.
If you use the word as a noun as in "I'm shooting a film" is a format agnostic statement. But to use it as a verb as in "I'm filming this scene" implies that you are shooting on film.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
I?d say it purely contextual. If the conversation calls for it a differentiation should be made, but I know I?ve oft stated in some way that I?m watching a film without considering the type of medium it was shot in or the medium it was playing off of.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
I'm not so sure about it. I'd love to talk on this more but I have get ready to take this handsome young flapper to a talkie this afternoon before hitting a speakeasy tonight.
You put Windows and Open in the same sentence. WM is closed in it's own different ways. I think the iPhone has the better trade off of the two.
Well that's like, your opinion, man. :P
I said the openness of windows mobile, but by no means am I saying the os complete open like, say, android, which is open source. It just feels like you can do whatever you want with a WM phone while with an iphone, you're forced into a preconfigured environment with very little customization. This works fine for a lot of people, but windows mobile feels more suited for meddling geeks like me.
Well that's like, your opinion, man. :P
I said the openness of windows mobile, but by no means am I saying the os complete open like, say, android, which is open source. It just feels like you can do whatever you want with a WM phone while with an iphone, you're forced into a preconfigured environment with very little customization. This works fine for a lot of people, but windows mobile feels more suited for meddling geeks like me.
Yes you are right it is contextual.
If you use the word as a noun as in "I'm shooting a film" is a format agnostic statement. But to use it as a verb as in "I'm filming this scene" implies that you are shooting on film.
Using the term "filming" is becoming antiquated, people rarely say that anymore.
What you're saying is true in some circles and in some contexts.
However the word "filming" also connotes video recording while the word "recording" is ambiguous as to whether both audio and video or just audio is being captured. In the context of an iPhone, I don't think anyone will be confused into thinking real film is being discussed. Thus it is more clear to use the word "film".