New Macbook Pro (not really speculation, more about comparing with the Macbook)
Ok, you caught me, there's some speculating
So, now that the Macbook is up to 2.16ghz and has an 8x superdrive starting at $1300, the Macbook Pro is starting to lose the "pro" in its name.
Will the difference between the two always be so small, because currently, I'm finding it harder and harder to justify buying a Macbook Pro over a Macbook...
(I mean, a dedicated graphics card and a larger screen is great, but having a computer with the same hard-drive, same CPU, same RAM, faster disk-drive for $700 cheaper is just wrong! I'm pretty sure the graphics card and screen don't cost $700 more than the screen on the Macbook!!!
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Do you think Apple would ever bundle "Pro" software w/ the Macbook Pro, keeping it at the same price, so it would be easier to justify such small differences between the two models?
I wonder what Apple has up its sleeves to make the Macbook Pro "pro"-er...
So, now that the Macbook is up to 2.16ghz and has an 8x superdrive starting at $1300, the Macbook Pro is starting to lose the "pro" in its name.
Will the difference between the two always be so small, because currently, I'm finding it harder and harder to justify buying a Macbook Pro over a Macbook...
(I mean, a dedicated graphics card and a larger screen is great, but having a computer with the same hard-drive, same CPU, same RAM, faster disk-drive for $700 cheaper is just wrong! I'm pretty sure the graphics card and screen don't cost $700 more than the screen on the Macbook!!!)Do you think Apple would ever bundle "Pro" software w/ the Macbook Pro, keeping it at the same price, so it would be easier to justify such small differences between the two models?
I wonder what Apple has up its sleeves to make the Macbook Pro "pro"-er...
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Sebastian
Ok, you caught me, there's some speculating
So, now that the Macbook is up to 2.16ghz and has an 8x superdrive starting at $1300, the Macbook Pro is starting to lose the "pro" in its name.
Will the difference between the two always be so small, because currently, I'm finding it harder and harder to justify buying a Macbook Pro over a Macbook...
Do you think Apple would ever bundle "Pro" software w/ the Macbook Pro, keeping it at the same price, so it would be easier to justify such small differences between the two models?
I wonder what Apple has up its sleeves to make the Macbook Pro "pro"-er...
Oh please, wait for about two weeks and it will be like it always was before: Apple will update also the MacBook Pro line so those are again at the top of the line...
Call the new laptop just "Mac", with an assortment of screen sizes and other features to build to order, and a bunch of pre-configured base models.
It's common sense: if you have two absolutely separate lines which you "differentiate", that means there has to be an empty area between the two so they are distinct. Whoever has needs that fall into that empty area loses from the existence of separate lines.
Well there are LED Displays that will debut in either the iMac or the Macbook Pro (I'm guessing the Macbook Pro)
Macbook Pro, yes, it makes sense because there is the 15" model. And even there I think it would not be more than an option for the forseeable future.
iMac, no, not possible for this year for its price target. While Apple could offer this as an option, can you imagine the price of the 24" model?
Macbook Pro, yes, it makes sense because there is the 15" model. And even there I think it would not be more than an option for the forseeable future.
iMac, no, not possible for this year for its price target. While Apple could offer this as an option, can you imagine the price of the 24" model?
You have a point, but I'm curious, how expensive would an LED Display be compared to an LCD of the same size?
Sebastian
Ok, you caught me, there's some speculating
So, now that the Macbook is up to 2.16ghz and has an 8x superdrive starting at $1300, the Macbook Pro is starting to lose the "pro" in its name.
Here is a comparison between the two, and an explanation for the timing of the update:
MacBook = Graduation Shopping for students (hence update in May)
MacBook Pro = Pro Machine for developers, pro customers, etc. (Hence probable update at WWDC on June 11)
Apple is running a business and is trying to catch the right markets at the right time.
Hey eveyone , I've just read that , the new Mac book pro will be released next week on tuesday , just like the MB..
What do you think about that?
Does anyone has information about such things...
You have a point, but I'm curious, how expensive would an LED Display be compared to an LCD of the same size?
Sebastian
There are no precise figures at this moment, but we can get an idea from the upcoming 12" HP 2510p next month. The price starts at $1600 and the base configuration is here. Although I have some difficulty to believe that it will have only 512 MB in its base configuration, but you never know, the difference with 1 GB is minimal today. In comparison, the mid-Macbook with double the hard drive capacity and 13" display is $300 cheaper.
Anyway, if this model can be of any use as indicator to answer your question, I would say that in the 12-13" range the difference between LCD and LED displays is still in the order of some hundred dollars. Of course expect much more in bigger sizes.
There are no precise figures at this moment, but we can get an idea from the upcoming 12" HP 2510p next month. The price starts at $1600 and the base configuration is here. Although I have some difficulty to believe that it will have only 512 MB in its base configuration, but you never know, the difference with 1 GB is minimal today. In comparison, the mid-Macbook with double the hard drive capacity and 13" display is $300 cheaper.
Anyway, if this model can be of any use as indicator to answer your question, I would say that in the 12-13" range the difference between LCD and LED displays is still in the order of some hundred dollars. Of course expect much more in bigger sizes.
I see, so if we were to see say... a 30" display, the price difference would easily shoot to over $600 going by that one example and just assuming the price would be +$300 for every 12-13" added.
Well it's not as bad as I thought it would be at least and it may not be as huge with the 17" so if they were to do it to the 15.4" model, the difference in size is just 1.6" meaning if Apple updates the Macbook Pro and adds LED displays, they will probably add it to both models, possibly as options first (although I get the feeling Apple would hate that and just make it Standard in the MBP).
Sebastian
I see, so if we were to see say... a 30" display, the price difference would easily shoot to over $600 going by that one example and just assuming the price would be +$300 for every 12-13" added.
I am not sure if I undrestand what you mean. You say that if a 12"-13" LED is $300 more expensive than a similar sized LCD then a 24"-26" LED display would cost $600 more than its LCD counterpart?
I am not sure if I undrestand what you mean. You say that if a 12"-13" LED is $300 more expensive than a similar sized LCD then a 24"-26" LED display would cost $600 more than its LCD counterpart?
Um... I forgot what I was originally trying to say but from rereading my post, probably.
Sebastian
As far as I'm concerned, I think that they want to separate a bit more the two series (MB and MBP). Apple has just updated the MBs, because the next generation of MBP is going to be way more faster and it will integrate many new technologies, like the BluRay reader, LED backlight, maybe the Santa Rosa platform, 2GB memory as a standard feature and a 160-200 GB hard drive and so on...which means that it will cost us more than the actual models, so it will be definitely made for pro users, who can afford it and will pay its price. I have to mention that I don't think it will be overpriced, just that these technologies aren't cheap at all...but this is just a thought, just like many on this forum.
1) Do not expect Apple to build anything around someone else's platform, if they incorporate the Santa Rosa platform it will merely be the technology.
2) Do not expect a Blu-ray reader anytime soon.
Sebastian
2) Do not expect a Blu-ray reader anytime soon.
I hope you're right, because it will cost us a lot more...and as far as I'm concerned, I'm okey with the standard 4,7 GB DVD, for what 24 or 50 GB?
my order got bumped from last week...
if they added support for a Blu-ray reader it would probably remain as an option for a while.
Blu-ray drives are about $800 at minimum, wholesale costs. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't care enough about Blu-Ray to shell out $100, much less $800.
Our distributors (I work at an Apple Specialist) are telling us to make sure we report inventory by Tuesday, which means (99% of the time) there's an update.
2) Do not expect a Blu-ray reader anytime soon.
Sebastian
yes, i doubt they'll put in a blue-laser drive until DVDSP fully supports either/both HiDef DVD formats.