New iMac = exactly what I expected. It's still a lame all-in-one, using all laptop parts except for the HDD. Who'da thunk it? Steve still thinks that it's worth making tradeoffs that you'd normally only make in a laptop, to get your desktop as small as possible. Why Steve, why? Why make all these sacrifices that make your key desktop machine slower and more expensive than the competition?
That can't be the design surely, that's worse than the old one, which I guess is quite an achievement. Did they base it on a freakin' Panda?
This is why not everyone is crazy about the iMacs - 'cos they bugger them up with stupid wacky designs. Take off the chin, take off the new black screen border and you have a sale.
That can't be the design surely, that's worse than the old one, which I guess is quite an achievement. Did they base it on a freakin' Panda?
This is why not everyone is crazy about the iMacs - 'cos they bugger them up with stupid wacky designs. Take off the chin, take off the new black screen border and you have a sale.
As Tom Cruise would say, SHOW ME THE MINI!
They shaved a half inch off, but the metal shell with the black border around the screen looks ridiculous.
...and to think that the iPhone-esque designs were shot down.
I'm still not sure about that keyboard, the USB ports are inconveniently placed, particularly for non-Apple connectors which are normally twice as thick or more than the Apple connectors.
Not sure if I like the new design yet either. Have to wait to see one in person later this week.
That's just a close-up of the main bit of the keyboard. It has a number pad, cursor keys etc.
I don't know, it might be the wireless version. I hope so anyway, I hated those arrow keys on the old Blue and White iMac as they were crammed down the bottom. No numpad, home, end and delete keys would make this kinda useless as a desktop keyboard.
Oh yeah, and there's no Apple symbol on the keys so it must be a development version.
According to the Macworld blog, all 3 offerings are going to be available in glossy ONLY. What a shame .
Quote:
The displays have a glossy sheen to them, which Jobs says Apple's customers have told them they love. He says the glossy display is better for displaying photos and movies.
It's actually better than I thought it would be. Where did the 2.8 ghz option come from? Didn't see that one. When Penryn comes out we might see desktop cpus in the iMac. Apparently the penryn uses less power at full throttle than conroe does at idle. Perhaps then we will see some divergence in the specs of the iMac and MBP.
I still would have preferred no black on the front though and it's black all over the back too. Maybe you'd be able to spray-paint the glass grey to cover it up.
You can however see the full size wired keyboard in one of the screenshots - look at the size difference between it and the old one. the old one was just one huge clumsy mess.
The new iMac looks better in the shots of Steve using it than it does in the renderings on-screen. I suspect it will look better in real life than in photos.
I personally love the new keyboard, but why is the wireless one a compact design?
The new iMac looks better in the shots of Steve using it than it does in the renderings on-screen. I suspect it will look better in real life than in photos.
I personally love the new keyboard, but why is the wireless one a compact design?
Likely because Apple will think that the wireless option for keyboards will be used on couches in a computer/HDTV setup. Hell the Apple TV may eventually be the cause for selling this compact wireless keyboard.
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This is why not everyone is crazy about the iMacs - 'cos they bugger them up with stupid wacky designs. Take off the chin, take off the new black screen border and you have a sale.
As Tom Cruise would say, SHOW ME THE MINI!
That can't be the design surely, that's worse than the old one, which I guess is quite an achievement. Did they base it on a freakin' Panda?
This is why not everyone is crazy about the iMacs - 'cos they bugger them up with stupid wacky designs. Take off the chin, take off the new black screen border and you have a sale.
As Tom Cruise would say, SHOW ME THE MINI!
They shaved a half inch off, but the metal shell with the black border around the screen looks ridiculous.
...and to think that the iPhone-esque designs were shot down.
Not sure if I like the new design yet either. Have to wait to see one in person later this week.
No number pad? Mini cursor keys? This is a huge step backwards.
I like the new iMac design. I'm really worried about the keyboard though:
No number pad? Mini cursor keys? This is a huge step backwards.
That's just a close-up of the main bit of the keyboard. It has a number pad, cursor keys etc.
The "perfect" computer IMO is "just a screen" So any attempts to move toward this is fine with me.
That's just a close-up of the main bit of the keyboard. It has a number pad, cursor keys etc.
I don't know, it might be the wireless version. I hope so anyway, I hated those arrow keys on the old Blue and White iMac as they were crammed down the bottom. No numpad, home, end and delete keys would make this kinda useless as a desktop keyboard.
Oh yeah, and there's no Apple symbol on the keys so it must be a development version.
I'm not unimpressed.
The "perfect" computer IMO is "just a screen" So any attempts to move toward this is fine with me.
I just think it's ugly.
iMac Panda!
Price is right though, 1200 bucks starting. Either we're seeing a new mini, xMac, or the mini is gone for good.
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If the lowend box has OpenGL 2 support we can expect the rest. I don't forsee the Mac mini making any future appearances.
The displays have a glossy sheen to them, which Jobs says Apple's customers have told them they love. He says the glossy display is better for displaying photos and movies.
I'm really unimpressed.
That display doesn't look cinema wide to me. Size wise it looks more like an old 17" studio display. Wierd.
That photo miust have been taken at a serious angle or something.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/07/l...ss-conference/
I still would have preferred no black on the front though and it's black all over the back too. Maybe you'd be able to spray-paint the glass grey to cover it up.
You can however see the full size wired keyboard in one of the screenshots - look at the size difference between it and the old one. the old one was just one huge clumsy mess.
Steve just said:
"We are refreshing the Mac Mini and making it even faster. It's already in the online store."
*prays for a dedicated GPU.*
I personally love the new keyboard, but why is the wireless one a compact design?
2.8GHz as a BTO, that's interesting. I wonder how the thermals will do around with that. I hope it's still very quiet.
Mac Mini updates... probably not much, let's see when the store is open again.
The new iMac looks better in the shots of Steve using it than it does in the renderings on-screen. I suspect it will look better in real life than in photos.
I personally love the new keyboard, but why is the wireless one a compact design?
Likely because Apple will think that the wireless option for keyboards will be used on couches in a computer/HDTV setup. Hell the Apple TV may eventually be the cause for selling this compact wireless keyboard.
I wonder what panel the 24" has and what is the maximum addressable memory out of 4GB?
2.8GHz as a BTO, that's interesting. I wonder how the thermals will do around with that. I hope it's still very quiet.
Mac Mini updates... probably not much, let's see when the store is open again.
S-PVA, and 4GB.
Edit: i take that back, several exabytes