[quote]Because that's how it works in the Finder.<hr></blockquote>
And almost nothing else. It's not set in stone for Cocoa apps to have that behavior.
...and text entry has obviously changed many times since Chimera went public. In fact I don't see much wrong with it at all. Which bugs do you refer to?
I was just explaining the reasoning behind command-b, Eugene. I don't exactly agree with it. There are a number of UI decisions the Chimera group has made that I don't exactly agree with. Regardless... [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:
<strong>...and text entry has obviously changed many times since Chimera went public. In fact I don't see much wrong with it at all. Which bugs do you refer to?</strong><hr></blockquote>The speed has improved, but that's about all. There were drawing bugs and slow entry bugs that have been fixed, but the text *navigation* bugs have not been touched.
Here's a quote from a post I made just over a month ago: [quote]2. Double-clicks and triple-clicks do not function as they should on any Mac OS [app]. Double click the middle of a word and before releasing the second click, drag in any direction. It *should* keep the first word selected and add to the selection on a per-word basis. Nope. It has some weird inconsistent behavior of keeping the work selected if you go right, but not if you go left, and either way it doesn't add whole words to the selection. Now, try a triple-slick somewhere. That *should* select the entire paragraph. Nope. It only selects the current line. What's even weirder is that Mozilla added some kind of quadrouple-click that selects the current line and one line above it. WTF? I suppose that would make sense to select the paragraph, but two lines?
3. Navigating text entry boxes with arrow keys is ATROCIOUS. Okay, anyone who has used Macs for any significant amount of time should know that the option, command, and control keys are great modifiers for the arrows. Option left/right skips whole words option up/down skips paragraps, control left/right and command right/left go to the start/end of a line, and command up/down skip to the beginning and end of the document. [...] Anyhow, that's the normal behavior for text entry in Mac OS X apps. How do these controls change in Mozilla/Chimera? Option right skips whole words but also stops at every space and grinds to a halt when it hits punctuation like a comma or period or slash or quote, option up/down does nothing, control left/right does nothing. These are essential keystrokes that I use constantly and am extremely hampered without their proper implementation. Not only do I do a lot of typing for forums like AppleInsider, I also use my browser for updating and changing code for web pages and services. Both of these tasks require lots of editing and lots of quick navigating.<hr></blockquote>Then, of course, I have that pipe-dream which I'm told will not be implemented until the day after never: services. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>Its an okay name, friends mix it up with netscape. Yeah, Chimera rocks!, How do you pronouce it. . . Its Ky-Me-Ra, right, not Cha-Me-Ra, my windows using friend can't pronouce anything, but now claims that he is right, stupid windows people, stupid in all fields.</strong><hr></blockquote>
"I said that I would stick to the official 0.x releases and stop downloading nightlies when 0.5 came out. The significant useability improvements in the nightlies revived my addiction. With 0.6, I actually think I might be able to stay put for a few weeks... "
I been a downloading addict for months but the official build is so good im now afraid to mess with it...
<strong>"I said that I would stick to the official 0.x releases and stop downloading nightlies when 0.5 came out. The significant useability improvements in the nightlies revived my addiction. With 0.6, I actually think I might be able to stay put for a few weeks... "
I been a downloading addict for months but the official build is so good im now afraid to mess with it...
Did anyone download the Flash beta as recomended?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I did. No problems yet. Chimera hasn't crashed, and the few flash sites I've been to seem to render correctly.
<strong>I don't understand why people say Chimera is fast. It doesn't seem faster than IE for me. I'm on broadband.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Try loading VersionTracker in IE and Chimera side by side and see which browser finishes rendering first. At least on my iBook/500/320, Chimera wins hands down.
Also, Chimera and OmniWeb *both* kick IE's butt with regards to multitasking. I get that spinning black and white legacy cursor so much in IE it's just a ****in joke.
(out of ignorance) I haven't used any other browser but IE for 2-3 years.... I saw this thread and decided to try out Chimera 0.6. HOLLY CRAP! I have an iMac17 and I feel like the Mhz just doubled.
This is great....
:eek:
Let alone the popup stopper, tabbed browsing, and other things....
Chimera is freakin' awesome. Lately I've been downloading nightlies every 2-3 days for the improvments. There are a few pages that don't work (InfiniBand Trade Association) which I go back to IE for, but I have taken it out of the Dock.
I agree with the DL Manager part, except for that, Chimera looks like it was made for a Mac, not some crappy carbonized app. Tabs rule, and if I knew some programming I'd try to get involved. Can't wait til 1.0.
I think the reason why Chimera is so slow is because it waits until it has the entire page to load the page. Dumb. IE is WAY faster for me, though I have no idea why. It also never has problems. For example, when I watch a QT movie in Chimera, Chimera crashes.
I feel so ashamed...I've been trying to not download the nightlies since .6 was so nice....well I gave in and downloaded 11-8 nightly...yes it's nicer/faster...it's kinda like the feeling that I already have a goodlooking girlfriend and I just cheated on her with a model...Escher resistance if futile...the only problem I have had with the nightly is now it won't stick as my default browser again...oh well...that's what i get for cheating but oh what a one night stand <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Does anyone else have the problem of chimera using WAY WAY too much CPU? I'm talking over 50% just sitting idly in the background. I love the speed, but at what cost?
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And almost nothing else. It's not set in stone for Cocoa apps to have that behavior.
...and text entry has obviously changed many times since Chimera went public. In fact I don't see much wrong with it at all. Which bugs do you refer to?
<strong>...and text entry has obviously changed many times since Chimera went public. In fact I don't see much wrong with it at all. Which bugs do you refer to?</strong><hr></blockquote>The speed has improved, but that's about all. There were drawing bugs and slow entry bugs that have been fixed, but the text *navigation* bugs have not been touched.
Here's a quote from a post I made just over a month ago: [quote]2. Double-clicks and triple-clicks do not function as they should on any Mac OS [app]. Double click the middle of a word and before releasing the second click, drag in any direction. It *should* keep the first word selected and add to the selection on a per-word basis. Nope. It has some weird inconsistent behavior of keeping the work selected if you go right, but not if you go left, and either way it doesn't add whole words to the selection. Now, try a triple-slick somewhere. That *should* select the entire paragraph. Nope. It only selects the current line. What's even weirder is that Mozilla added some kind of quadrouple-click that selects the current line and one line above it. WTF? I suppose that would make sense to select the paragraph, but two lines?
3. Navigating text entry boxes with arrow keys is ATROCIOUS. Okay, anyone who has used Macs for any significant amount of time should know that the option, command, and control keys are great modifiers for the arrows. Option left/right skips whole words option up/down skips paragraps, control left/right and command right/left go to the start/end of a line, and command up/down skip to the beginning and end of the document. [...] Anyhow, that's the normal behavior for text entry in Mac OS X apps. How do these controls change in Mozilla/Chimera? Option right skips whole words but also stops at every space and grinds to a halt when it hits punctuation like a comma or period or slash or quote, option up/down does nothing, control left/right does nothing. These are essential keystrokes that I use constantly and am extremely hampered without their proper implementation. Not only do I do a lot of typing for forums like AppleInsider, I also use my browser for updating and changing code for web pages and services. Both of these tasks require lots of editing and lots of quick navigating.<hr></blockquote>Then, of course, I have that pipe-dream which I'm told will not be implemented until the day after never: services. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>Its an okay name, friends mix it up with netscape. Yeah, Chimera rocks!, How do you pronouce it. . . Its Ky-Me-Ra, right, not Cha-Me-Ra, my windows using friend can't pronouce anything, but now claims that he is right, stupid windows people, stupid in all fields.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's Ky-may-rah, show <a href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?chimera"; target="_blank">http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?chimera</a>; to your friend, it even has a sound file to prove it
I been a downloading addict for months but the official build is so good im now afraid to mess with it...
Did anyone download the Flash beta as recomended?
<strong>"I said that I would stick to the official 0.x releases and stop downloading nightlies when 0.5 came out. The significant useability improvements in the nightlies revived my addiction. With 0.6, I actually think I might be able to stay put for a few weeks... "
I been a downloading addict for months but the official build is so good im now afraid to mess with it...
Did anyone download the Flash beta as recomended?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I did. No problems yet. Chimera hasn't crashed, and the few flash sites I've been to seem to render correctly.
<strong>Did anyone download the Flash beta as recomended?</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by Kecksy:
<strong>I did. No problems yet. Chimera hasn't crashed, and the few flash sites I've been to seem to render correctly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Downloaded the 6.0r60 Flash plug-in. Works flawlessly here as well.
I'm definitely going to try to stay off the nightlies now.
Escher
Speed is great. Especially coming from IE or OmniWeb. And rendering is accurate.
I would like a robust download manager. Having seperate windows for each download is clutter I can do without. OmniWebs DLM is great.
Autofill! and it must work moderately well like the one in IE! I buy tons of stuff online and Autofill is a god send.
<strong>I don't understand why people say Chimera is fast. It doesn't seem faster than IE for me. I'm on broadband.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Try loading VersionTracker in IE and Chimera side by side and see which browser finishes rendering first. At least on my iBook/500/320, Chimera wins hands down.
Escher
<strong>I don't understand why people say Chimera is fast. It doesn't seem faster than IE for me. I'm on broadband.</strong><hr></blockquote>
For me pretty much every page loads faster in Chimera.
This is great....
:eek:
Let alone the popup stopper, tabbed browsing, and other things....
Thanks,
Blizaine
I agree with the DL Manager part, except for that, Chimera looks like it was made for a Mac, not some crappy carbonized app. Tabs rule, and if I knew some programming I'd try to get involved. Can't wait til 1.0.