Apple settles Burst.com patent suit for $10 million

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Apple Inc. on Wednesday called a truce in the feud between itself and Burst.com by agreeing to pay a $10 million lump sum in exchange for protection from current and future lawsuits.



Burst.com will collect approximately $4.6 million after factoring in legal fees and other expenses associated with the April 2006 complaint, the company says in its announcement.



In return, the streaming media firm will grant Apple the right to use most of its patent portfolio, much of which covers the process of compressing and sending data across a network. Apple will also be shielded from any potential lawsuits that may arise from four additional Burst patents that have not been shared between the two companies, three of which are related to digital video recorders and have yet to be granted.



The move puts a halt to a bitter legal battle that began in 2004, when Burst claimed that some of its media patents formed the basis of the iPod. Apple launched a preemptive lawsuit against Burst in the District Court of Northern California in January of 2006 to try and invalidate the patents. Burst promptly responded by countersuing Apple in April of the same year, accusing the Cupertino, California-based firm of infringement by refusing to license four cornerstone patents it says are violated by the iPod and iTunes. This last action ultimately prompted Wednesday's settlement.



The plaintiff has largely enjoyed success throughout the entire legal process, setting a precedent in 2005 by winning a $60 million settlement from Microsoft after a patent dispute regarding Windows Media Player's transmission of music and video. In May of this year, a Markman Hearing meant to clarify the terms of the lawsuit turned against Apple and allowed most of Burst's definitions to stand for a potential trial, giving the latter the upper hand in attempts to force a settlement.



Neither Apple nor Burst have provided additional commentary on the outcome.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    msnlymsnly Posts: 378member
    Thats just pocket change to Apple
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  • Reply 2 of 30
    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
    I suppose it worked out better than the Creative® deal
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  • Reply 3 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    I suppose it worked out better than the Creative® deal



    Hell yeah it did.
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  • Reply 4 of 30
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    iTunes movie rentals and a seriously upgraded AppleTV just became a lot more likely at MWSF.
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  • Reply 5 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    iTunes movie rentals and a seriously upgraded AppleTV just became a lot more likely at MWSF.



    How does the Burst settlement help that?
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  • Reply 6 of 30
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
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    How does the Burst settlement help that?



    The patents in question involved streaming and the pending patents are for DVR capabilities.



    Cringley had a big piece on the lawsuit about a year ago that explained it in detail, but this is all I could find right now.
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  • Reply 7 of 30
    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
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    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    The patents in question involved streaming and the pending patents are for DVR capabilities.



    Cringley had a big piece on the lawsuit about a year ago that explained it in detail, but this is all I could find right now.



    Cringley is a crazy man though.
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  • Reply 8 of 30
    Now bring on the camcorder app in iPhone with direct uploade to YouTube.
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  • Reply 9 of 30
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,691member
    This settlement is really a "Get out of Jail Free card" for Apple.
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  • Reply 10 of 30
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Amazingly small amount given they were wining it seems, I am surprised it was accepted. However as an AAPL share holder I am thrilled.
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  • Reply 11 of 30
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    Amazingly small amount given they were wining it seems, I am surprised it was accepted. However as an AAPL share holder I am thrilled.



    MS paid $60million several years ago. This suggests to em that Apple's lawyers convinced them that a lengthy legal battle would all but eat up any award they may have been granted down the road.



    I had always looked at this as part of why movies haven't really taken off as much through iTunes, aside from the content producers. I would guess that now, the rental/streaming service can actually get off the ground.
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  • Reply 12 of 30
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    Now bring on the camcorder app in iPhone with direct uploade to YouTube.



    Sweet!
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  • Reply 13 of 30
    smeesmee Posts: 195member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    This settlement is really a "Get out of Jail Free card" for Apple.



    Yip, lol.

    It's nothing to Apple though, Steve's all like "$10mill, oh nooooo problem"...
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  • Reply 14 of 30
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    This settlement is really a "Get out of Jail Free card" for Apple.



    No kidding. Can't figure out why they settled for so little, but hey, I'm not complaining.
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  • Reply 15 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    No kidding. Can't figure out why they settled for so little, but hey, I'm not complaining.



    Cringely can't figure it out either.
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  • Reply 16 of 30
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    Cringely can't figure it out either.



    Here's the correct story link.



    I think maybe Apple entered into an extended licensing deal with Burst including payments that would be tied to iTunes video rentals or sales, or Apple may have promised to buy Burst and their patents. The deal would have huge ramifications if that's the case.
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  • Reply 17 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Here's the correct story link.



    Thanks.
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  • Reply 18 of 30
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,691member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    Here's the correct story link.



    I think maybe Apple entered into an extended licensing deal with Burst including payments that would be tied to iTunes video rentals or sales, or Apple may have promised to buy Burst and their patents. The deal would have huge ramifications if that's the case.



    I also find it odd that there would have been any statement about the one patent and three others that have yet to be issued.



    Why is that? There was actually NO need to mention them at all, if Apple is not already infringing the one issued, and of course, can't be accused of infringing any that have no yet been issued.



    If they did some other deal, then there was no need to mention it at this time. This is very strange
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  • Reply 19 of 30
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    MS paid $60million several years ago. This suggests to em that Apple's lawyers convinced them that a lengthy legal battle would all but eat up any award they may have been granted down the road.



    I had always looked at this as part of why movies haven't really taken off as much through iTunes, aside from the content producers. I would guess that now, the rental/streaming service can actually get off the ground.



    Best observation yet; and one that is completely professional and devoid of taunting.



    I'm looking forward to the next AppleTV/DVR.
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  • Reply 20 of 30
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    I'm looking forward to the next AppleTV/DVR.



    I don't see Apple releasing a DVR. This would severely hurt iTunes Store TV Show purchases and piss off the supporting studios.



    As for iTunes Store movie rentals I see the major hurdle being one with the studios, not with some Burst patents that may or may not have been violated.
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