Jobs already said this at the UK launch on September 18.[/url]
At the UK, implying... at UK not USA.
I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."
I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."
That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?
Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?
Suppose I were to purchase an iPhone now, and then when the new one is released, buy the AT&T theft and damage insurance for a month (it's like $5/month)... one of my friends accidentally breaks my iPhone, and then I get a new iPhone...
That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?
Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?
We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
The 3G iPhone will be for everyone not only the UK. ATT has had 3G in the major US cities for awhile now. It isn't available in all ATT coverage area.
We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.
Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.
You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.
You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.
Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.
Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.
Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.
Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.
You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.
You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.
Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.
Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.
I have to agree with this. O2 was a very strange choice for Apple and very limiting for consumers. It was Apple's choice.
My assumption is that O2 was the only carrier willing to share revenues at such a high level with Apple, and that was the key driver for Apple.
The "musts" for me are 3G and at least 16GB, preferably 32. I'd also like a video camera and picture pix messaging. Really though, the only thing holding me up is the 3G. I refuse to spend $400+ Verizon's termination fee to have the EDGE network. Get on the stick, jobs. My $400 is yours as soon as you release the product.
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at&t has caused irreparable harm to Apple's business!
Jobs already said this at the UK launch on September 18.
If you were waiting for a 3G iPhone, unfortunately you're going to have to keep on waiting--Jobs says we'll see it "later next year."
Jobs already said this at the UK launch on September 18.[/url]
At the UK, implying... at UK not USA.
I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."
I don't regret ordering the present 8GB model (€270). I'm going to let that tied me over until there's a 32GB HSDPA version in 2009.
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I don't regret ordering the present 8GB model (€270). I'm going to let that tied me over until there's a 32GB HSDPA version in 2009.
ireland, where did u get the iPhone for 270 euro? and was it sim free? reply asap!!
cheers
At the UK, implying... at UK not USA.
I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."
That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?
Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?
That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?
Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?
We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
The 3G iPhone will be for everyone not only the UK. ATT has had 3G in the major US cities for awhile now. It isn't available in all ATT coverage area.
We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.
Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.
You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.
You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.
Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.
Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.
I'm thinking Apple picked the one that would do business with Apple for the maximum profit for Apple, but then I would be using logic again.
That would appear to not be the case though if the lack lustre sales are anything to go by.
Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.
Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.
You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.
You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.
Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.
Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.
I have to agree with this. O2 was a very strange choice for Apple and very limiting for consumers. It was Apple's choice.
My assumption is that O2 was the only carrier willing to share revenues at such a high level with Apple, and that was the key driver for Apple.
The 3G iPhone will be for everyone not only the UK. ATT has had 3G in the major US cities for awhile now. It isn't available in all ATT coverage area.
I'm not even in what I'd consider a major city (although many big insurers call this town home) and I have 3G coverage through ATT.
That would appear to not be the case though if the lack lustre sales are anything to go by.
Could it mostly be that consumers are waiting for the 3G iPhone since they know one is coming?
I got a Blackberry Pearl from Verizon and returned it because it would not connect to secure sites
(HTTPS sites) without having an enterprise server---
BUT the speed on the EVDO network was great--as was Verizon's customer service---
I am soooo unhappy that Apple didn't go with Verizon--
I think that 3G with ATT may end up being a disappointment.