Wouldn't e-paper (or e-ink) be a better solution than oleds? It needs almost no power... Just wondering. Maybe electronic ink isn't suitable when touched all the time... don't know.
Heh, your comment came before mine, but we're thinking the same thing.
An avid typer (it pays the bills), I will admit that a tactile keyboard has its place in life, but I stand by my belief that a multitouch keyboard could really be interesting.
If this is their main board for all machines, fantastic and yes, I approve as well - as long as they don't get sued AGAIN for being stupid. Combine it with a mutlitouch plate and you have magic. I still hope that a ultra portable comes out with a MT keyboard.
The e-ink ideas people have mentioned sounds like a great idea.
Would prior art matter in the US if the Optimus keyboard is Russian?
just using OLEDs on keys would not be enough to invalidate Apple's patent. It's HOW its done that matters.
And Lebedev isn't using these on all the keys as first stated, just a few, because of cost, I would imagine. I would think that Apple's engineers know a bit more than he does.
Not really true... color e-paper already exists. And btw... my current keyboard has grey symbols too... don't see a problem!
Emitted light is another issue... I don't need it; I never use my iBook in bed!
Right now, there are no non industrial products using the experimental two and three color "paper", and only one or two of those. Perhaps in a couple of years, or maybe not. It will also be fairly expensive in color.
These have less contrast than a keyboard. When your hand moves over the Kindle screen, you can't read what's underneath. A shadow from you would be enough to wipe out the pictures.
Right now, there are no non industrial products using the experimental two and three color "paper", and only one or two of those. Perhaps in a couple of years, or maybe not. It will also be fairly expensive in color.
These have less contrast than a keyboard. When your hand moves over the Kindle screen, you can't read what's underneath. A shadow from you would be enough to wipe out the pictures.
And Lebedev isn't using these on all the keys as first stated, just a few, because of cost, I would imagine. I would think that Apple's engineers know a bit more than he does.
No, he is...he's selling four variants of the keyboard, ranging in price from about $450 to over $1500: one with just an OLED space bar; one with the ten function keys on the left side, one with the alpha keys, and one with all the keys.
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I really think they could just do this with a multitouch keyboard.
The developers could create keys and control interfaces that match apps and change at a whim.
Give it a rest with your multi-touch babble will you. This is obviously Apple's answer.
Power is needed, but not too much.
It's entirely possible that Apple could choose an e-ink substrate for the keys.
Wouldn't e-paper (or e-ink) be a better solution than oleds? It needs almost no power... Just wondering. Maybe electronic ink isn't suitable when touched all the time... don't know.
Heh, your comment came before mine, but we're thinking the same thing.
If this is their main board for all machines, fantastic and yes, I approve as well - as long as they don't get sued AGAIN for being stupid. Combine it with a mutlitouch plate and you have magic. I still hope that a ultra portable comes out with a MT keyboard.
Everybody said I was crazy. Who's crazy now?
Seems to me that it makes most sense if it is built into a Lap Top. One configuration for every market and for the life-time of the product.
As tablets are going to replace notebooks, I think it would be way better for the desktop keyboard
Go on you guys laugh, you'll see what happens in 5 years time. Tablets will be "everywhere"!!
Would prior art matter in the US if the Optimus keyboard is Russian?
The e-ink ideas people have mentioned sounds like a great idea.
Would prior art matter in the US if the Optimus keyboard is Russian?
just using OLEDs on keys would not be enough to invalidate Apple's patent. It's HOW its done that matters.
And Lebedev isn't using these on all the keys as first stated, just a few, because of cost, I would imagine. I would think that Apple's engineers know a bit more than he does.
It's entirely possible that Apple could choose an e-ink substrate for the keys.
But then there would be no color, just very dark grey on very light grey.
There would also be no light emitted. E-ink works by reflected light.
I invented this. I was talking about it a year and a half ago.
Everybody said I was crazy. Who's crazy now?
Ireland, you're still crazy.
Lebedev first came up with this almost three years ago.
I invented this. I was talking about it a year and a half ago.
Everybody said I was crazy. Who's crazy now?
I invented iTunes.. your point?
But then there would be no color, just very dark grey on very light grey.
There would also be no light emitted. E-ink works by reflected light.
Not really true... color e-paper already exists. And btw... my current keyboard has grey symbols too... don't see a problem!
Emitted light is another issue... I don't need it; I never use my iBook in bed!
Not really true... color e-paper already exists. And btw... my current keyboard has grey symbols too... don't see a problem!
Emitted light is another issue... I don't need it; I never use my iBook in bed!
Right now, there are no non industrial products using the experimental two and three color "paper", and only one or two of those. Perhaps in a couple of years, or maybe not. It will also be fairly expensive in color.
These have less contrast than a keyboard. When your hand moves over the Kindle screen, you can't read what's underneath. A shadow from you would be enough to wipe out the pictures.
Right now, there are no non industrial products using the experimental two and three color "paper", and only one or two of those. Perhaps in a couple of years, or maybe not. It will also be fairly expensive in color.
These have less contrast than a keyboard. When your hand moves over the Kindle screen, you can't read what's underneath. A shadow from you would be enough to wipe out the pictures.
Are we talking e-ink or e-paper here?
edit: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/l...isplay-for-ces
Are we talking e-ink or e-paper here?
They're the same thing from a users viewpoint (oh, a pun!
E-Ink Corp. sells e-paper displays for example. I think the name for the product, E-Ink, is trademarked, or copyrighted. I'd have to look it up.
And Lebedev isn't using these on all the keys as first stated, just a few, because of cost, I would imagine. I would think that Apple's engineers know a bit more than he does.
No, he is...he's selling four variants of the keyboard, ranging in price from about $450 to over $1500: one with just an OLED space bar; one with the ten function keys on the left side, one with the alpha keys, and one with all the keys.