Apple filing places iPhone networks at restaurants, zoos, concerts

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  • Reply 21 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by MacGregor View Post


    I can definitely see this as useful in some instances, but I will definitely rather give my kid a 5-cent map of the zoo rather than a $400 iPhone. Now as a museum educator I also see a great deal of promise in having rich content freely available to iPhoners!! This could really change what museums do.



    Not to mention job security and continued high demand for graphic designers, programmers and iPhone app developers!
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  • Reply 22 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by godfather55 View Post


    I wrote to the Delicious Library and submitted a joint venture idea that they rejected, but listen to this!



    You take your iPhone, read the barcode of the Lucky Charms box you just finished. It adds the item to your grocery list, where-upon you got to the grocery store, pull up all the items scanned the past week, and the iPhone with in-store navigation tells you when you are passing that Lucky Charms box. You then scan the new box, put it in your cart, then scan anything else you buy, approach the register where you upload your iPhone list and it's already paid for through your pre-programmed credit card info.



    You simply say "See ya" to all those others waiting with melting Ben and Jerry's, and Mrs. Paul's fish sticks in their carts.



    Ahahah!

    Have fun everyone!



    You "submitted a joint venture idea" to Delicious Library? What part of that joint venture were you providing? The idea?



    Anyone can come up with ideas. It's the whole development and execution part that takes work.
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  • Reply 23 of 50
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    Originally Posted by quinney View Post


    This filing does not seem to mention having a GPS chip to determine the location,

    but rather would use the location of docking stations and LAN nodes. Is that a

    clue to anything?



    On one hand, with no specific mention of GPS, this may imply that the new phone will not have GPS. However, this system is applicable to the current iphone and ipod touch or anything with SKyhook.



    On the other hand, how can you move towards these location based services and not move towards a better way of locating the device?



    Has anyone seen Sprints website where they compare the iphone to their current iphone want to be? They really make fun of the lack of GPS
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  • Reply 24 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by hdasmith View Post


    Jobs is a vegan??! Blimey, he's just dropped a couple of places in my book!



    I guess you'd have a problem visiting India then.
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  • Reply 25 of 50
    wilcowilco Posts: 985member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    You "submitted a joint venture idea" to Delicious Library? What part of that joint venture were you providing? The idea?



    Anyone can come up with ideas. It's the whole development and execution part that takes work.



    He should try submitting it to Lucky Charms.
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  • Reply 26 of 50
    wilcowilco Posts: 985member
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    Originally Posted by hdasmith View Post


    Jobs is a vegan??! Blimey, he's just dropped a couple of places in my book!



    No offense, but are you retarded?
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  • Reply 27 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    No offense, but are you retarded?



    Yeah, that'll teach 'im.
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  • Reply 28 of 50
    esiatesiat Posts: 2member
    I knew this was going to happen. It was only a matter of time until the big dogs reveal their plans.

    I am already working on a similar location-based service framework and application. Unfortunately I could not register as an Iphone developer. I wonder what is going to happen if I go ahead and finish up my prototypes.

    I was aiming for the WWDC but wouldn't be making there any ways.



    Blast!
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  • Reply 29 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by esiat View Post


    I knew this was going to happen. It was only a matter of time until the big dogs reveal their plans.

    I am already working on a similar location-based service framework and application. Unfortunately I could not register as an Iphone developer. I wonder what is going to happen if I go ahead and finish up my prototypes.

    I was aiming for the WWDC but wouldn't be making there any ways.



    Blast!



    First you'll be shunned by the Apple community, then you'll be forced to live in Vista-ville.
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  • Reply 30 of 50
    hypermarkhypermark Posts: 152member
    The location based side of this has been a no-brainer from the get go since there is so much contextual data that can be pushed your way specific to a business/restaurant/sporting event, etc, and apple already has the transactional piece and the app pushing piece (for location optimized services) worked through.



    Given that, one wonders couldn't a Google, AT&T or even Apple come up with an advertiser subsidized model where the infrastructure is provided to the business for free in exchange for the rights to monetize some subset of the 'page views' or whatever ad unit equivalent is sold off to advertisers who can buy into a heavily targeted network (shoe stores in zip codes with demographic average income above $75K)?



    Food for thought.



    Mark

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    Read: iPhone SDK - mobile reasons for optimism

    http://thenetworkgarden.com/weblog/2...e-reasons.html
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  • Reply 31 of 50
    esiatesiat Posts: 2member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hypermark View Post


    The location based side of this has been a no-brainer from the get go since there is so much contextual data that can be pushed your way specific to a business/restaurant/sporting event, etc, and apple already has the transactional piece and the app pushing piece (for location optimized services) worked through.



    Given that, one wonders couldn't a Google, AT&T or even Apple come up with an advertiser subsidized model where the infrastructure is provided to the business for free in exchange for the rights to monetize some subset of the 'page views' or whatever ad unit equivalent is sold off to advertisers who can buy into a heavily targeted network (shoe stores in zip codes with demographic average income above $75K)?



    Food for thought.



    Agreed. It is nice that they have implemented the mechanism for pushing the contextual data to their device. The question is will their implementation be available for license so that such data can be pushed to other platforms(Blackberry and Symbian based devices). I hope it will be a standard available to everyone.
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  • Reply 32 of 50
    8corewhore8corewhore Posts: 833member
    First of all, by the time this could be set up, there'd be many different mobiles more than capable of participating. Why would an establishment limit it to the iPhone? I don't like Steve Jobs rubbing his palms together, salivating like Bill Gates. Secondly, this is full of all kinds of privacy/security concerns.



    I love gadgets. I love how they can simplify things. But, I hate how they can slippery-slope into an Orwelian nightmare.
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  • Reply 33 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    AgreedI hope it will be a standard available to everyone.



    I don't. I'd rather Apple had the unfair advantage this round.
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  • Reply 34 of 50
    rg_spbrg_spb Posts: 21member
    This would be great to have at a mall, or grocery store. "You are here" kind of thing, store (or mall layout). Same with a place like Convention centers.
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  • Reply 35 of 50
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    The Museum of Modern Art in New York already has this type of feature.



    Visitors to The Museum of Modern Art can now use free wireless technology within the Museum to access MoMA’s audio programs on their own iPod Touch or iPhone. Audio commentary for selected artworks is available on demand by item number (located on wall labels in the galleries), in a tour program, or by floor. MoMA Audio includes commentary by curators and artists on works in the collection in eight languages; audio for select special exhibitions; and audio for children, teens, and the visually impaired.



    MoMA Audio on MoMA WiFi
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  • Reply 36 of 50
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    I don't. I'd rather Apple had the unfair advantage this round.



    So far web apps use standard HTML and AJAX. Any browser that supports these standards can use the service.
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  • Reply 37 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    The Museum of Modern Art in New York already has this type of feature.



    Visitors to The Museum of Modern Art can now use free wireless technology within the Museum to access MoMA?s audio programs on their own iPod Touch or iPhone. Audio commentary for selected artworks is available on demand by item number (located on wall labels in the galleries), in a tour program, or by floor. MoMA Audio includes commentary by curators and artists on works in the collection in eight languages; audio for select special exhibitions; and audio for children, teens, and the visually impaired.



    MoMA Audio on MoMA WiFi



    But have they applied for a patent?
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  • Reply 38 of 50
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by godfather55 View Post


    You then scan the new box, put it in your cart, then scan anything else you buy, approach the register where you upload your iPhone list and it's already paid for through your pre-programmed credit card info.



    I like going through the self checkout. So let's say I scan the bar code of a cheap $5 dollar bottle of wine and put a $100 bottle in my cart. When I get to the self checkout I play back the bar code of the cheap wine instead of scanning the expensive wine. I wouldn't do it mind you but someone will.



    m
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  • Reply 39 of 50
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    I like going through the self checkout. So let's say I scan the bar code of a cheap $5 dollar bottle of wine and put a $100 bottle in my cart. When I get to the self checkout I play back the bar code of the cheap wine instead of scanning the expensive wine. I wouldn't do it mind you but someone will.



    m



    You won't be able to because RFID sensors will catch the discrepancy, plus your receipt will be double-checked on the way out.
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  • Reply 40 of 50
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    You won't be able to because RFID sensors will catch the discrepancy, plus your receipt will be double-checked on the way out.



    Yeah the $100 bottle will probably have an RFID but it was just an idea. I think I'll try it by taking a picture of the same bottle I plan to purchase anyway just to see it it works.
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