Steve Jobs will have to come clean about his health. I see 3 possibilities:
1) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that he has regular follow-up exams with his doctors and, so far, almost 4 years after his pancreatic cancer surgery, he is cancer free;
2) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that he has had a cancer recurrence, but he follows regular treatments and his doctors assure him that he can discharge his duties as Apple CEO and President. If it becomes necessary, Steve Jobs assures all Apple investors that he will step down and ask Apple to name his successor;
3) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that "All good things must come to an end" and resigns as Apple CEO and President of the Apple Board of directors. After stating his confidence in Apple, its employees and management, Steve Jobs recalls all that he has done for Apple since he returned at Apple in 1997. While expressing their gratitude for the exceptional contribution of Steve Jobs to the creation of Apple and its successful transition to Mac OS X and Intel, the Apple Board of directors and management team wish Steve Jobs a happy retirement and success in battling cancer.
As the President and CEO of an international company quoted on the NASDQ stock exchange, Steve Jobs owes us the truth about his health condition. And everyone wish him well, but he has to come clean on his current health condition.
OK.... I've tried to be reasonable in my prior responses to you, but now I see I have erred: You, sir, sound like a nut case + stuck vinyl.
ls this the same troll who made all those weird posts saying Jobs had schizophrenia (he must have forgot to mention he had a PhD in psychiatry) and that he should leave? Why the hell would anyone gain pleasure from posting these nonsensical, totally irrational posts? They seem to originate from a deluded mind.
EDIT: I've just had a look through most of his posts and in almost every one of them where he has cause to mention Steve Jobs or other Apple executives, he makes it perfectly clear he hates them and their "insane need to line their own pockets" (I paraphrase from one quote). His hatred of them seems quite irrational but it's nothing new: it's jealousy and it seems to be manifesting itself in these bullshit posts about things he doesn't actually know anything about. How DARE people be more successful than him?
ls this the same troll who made all those weird posts saying Jobs had schizophrenia (I fail to see wha qualifies him to make such a diagnosis if it is) and that he should leave? Why the hell would anyone gain pleasure from posting these nonsensical, totally irrational posts? They seem to originate from a deluded mind.
hahaha that made me laugh out loud. I used to have a teacher in primary school who used the term "clown" to describe kids who were deliberately acting like fools to get attention and to appear "interesting". Describes this WASTE of space down to a T...
Why is this version any more credible than any of the others?
Especially when taken in the context of the manner in which Mr. Jobs conducted this most recent effort at spin control, it should be self evident that both Apple, Inc. and Mr. Jobs have already played fast and loose with the truth. With that as a given, neither has any remaining credibility in this matter.
Those who choose to rely upon these statements may come to regret their choice.
VEGETARIAN--someone who will not consume animal flesh, eggs, and dairy products. (some less strict vegetarians--those who merely object to slaughtering animals for their flesh--are okay with eating dairy products).
VEGAN--someone who philosophically refuses to eat or use any type of animal-origin product. In addition to being strictly vegetarian, a vegan will not wear or own any wool or leather (and of course fur) products.
Actually, the traditional Eskimo diet is all-meat. That was one of the inspirations of the Atkins Diet.
The Inuit winter diet is mostly meat, fish, blubber etc. During the other, somewhat less hostile seasons, they do gather tubers, nuts, berries, seaweed and other plant-based materials. And while this adaptation does allow them to pack on the insulation necessary for survival in harsh climes, I think one would be hard-pressed to describe your basic "traditional" Inuit as healthy or long-lived. And wasn't Mr. Atkins technically obese when he died? Don't think he needed the insulation while living in NYC,,,
Why am I harping on this subject and not Jobs' health? Because it's his personal business and I could care less. I wouldn't have even bothered to post if it wasn't for that one "unnatural" comment unfairly linking his diet to his health issues.
WTF?? Are you that much of a catastrophic tool? He's been cleared of all crimes by the SEC on the backdating issues. More importantly, he doesn't have to reveal any health issues as it's protected by law, all they have to report is his ability to serve as CEO, that's it, period, end of argument.
Christ, you make my head hurt.
Being cleared by Al Gore is not the same as doing something LEGAL and APPROPRIATE.
The U.S. Department of Justice has no choice but to prosecute Steve Jobs for a massive fraud against Apple investors. In the U.S.A., laws are enforced not on the basis of Who you are, but What you do.
BTW, ILLEGAL means something and bears consequences. Martha Stewart and lord Black were sent to jail for far less than a billion dollar fraud.
By his conduct, Steve Jobs has defrauded Apple shareholders, not offered any refund, and SHOULD face justice. By his prosecution, we will see what kind of country the U.S.A. is, a country of cheaters and fraudsters, or a country based on the rule of law with an independent judiciary and Justice department.
At least he didn't say this this time. A few choice quotes:
He posts a similar rant any time the subject of Steve Jobs, his health, or shortcomings of any Apple products come up. I'm not exactly a blind worshipper of Steve Jobs; he has several bees in his bonnet that I personally disagree with from a design and marketing point of view. (Of course, with my opinions and $2.00 you can buy a cup of coffee.) However, I think these kind of statements are really beyond the pale of polite discourse. (I have a feeling if Jobs were black, this post would have been deleted at the time.)
I'm sure Bill Gates would be interested to hear ouragan's psychological diagnosis of anyone who didn't complete a university degree, for whatever reason. Seriously, where does anybody get this kind of arrogance? Surely he must be richer than Jobs and Gates put together! And he deserves it, because I'm sure he was legitimately conceived and "completed a university degree." It really is an outrage that someone so much lower on the social scale than the great ouragan should have achieved the success Steve Jobs has! The world is really out of joint, isn't it?
Whenever you quote someone, it's important to place the quotes in context. My original comment did not include any reference to a March 5, 2008 Fortune Magazine editorial on Steve Jobs because, at that moment, my source of information was obvious to everyone.
Because AppleInsider readers might be misled by your choice of quotes, I have now corrected my original comment to include a full reference to the March 5, 2008 Fortune Magazine editorial.
Every investor shoud read the following editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, before risking family savings, their children education fund or retirement money on Apple stock:
Your personal attacks show that you didn't read the feature article and the editorial published in Fortune Magazine. While you may disagree with them, I trust the credentials of Fortune Magazine journalists and editorialists far more than I trust your judgment.
I am not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs, and I am not looking for a fatherly figure in Steve Jobs. Instead, I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform who read most of what was published on Apple over the years.
Although unfavourable, my judgment on Steve Jobs is balanced by a recognition of his accomplishments. BTW, I never read or wrote any negative comment on Steve Jobs' accomplishments at Pixar. Steve Jobs had the wisdom to recognize the talent of Pixar employees and not to second guess their every decision. I submit to you that he should adopt the same approach for Apple.
When he was expelled from the Apple management team in 1985, Steve Jobs sold his founder's shares in Apple and, with the money, established NeXT Computers and bought Pixar. Steve Jobs sold NeXT to Apple in 1997 for a substantial profit and gained almost $5 billions from the sale of Pixar to Disney.
In the future, before you attack me with selective quotes, please read the editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, so you get to understand what I am talking about.
You may agree to disagree with me on the performance, personality and actions of Steve Jobs, but AppleInsider readers are entitled to the views and opinions of everyone, especially when they are based on an article or an editorial published in a mainstream media.
Hey little troll, there is no law saying you have to disclose the specifics of your health to the public. In fact, it's illegal for Apple or anyone else to disclose that if the individual doesn't want to. If you're so concerned about law, why are you being such a hypocrite? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're just a worthless troll.
Your mother should have taught you to watch your language for, otherwise, we would need to wash your mouth with soap.
As I said, I'm not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs. I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform and, unlike you, I know the meaning of ILLEGAL, against the law or CRIMINAL FRAUD on Apple shareholders, as I am a corporate and business lawyer.
The requirements of corporate law, securities law, and Stock Exchange regulations are more stringent for a CEO than a mere office worker, telephone operator or other "dime a dozen" employee.
Steve Jobs earns $15 millions per year as a basis salary to discharge his functions at Apple, to which you must add a full health insurance coverage for both Steve Jobs and his family. And his private jet expenses are paid by Apple for his business trips and, it would seem, his family vacations. And that's before any stock option award, both legal and ILLEGAL.
To compare, the CEO of Canada's largest bank earns just $6 millions per year. But the man is HONEST and would never defraud shareholders. Honesty is a measure of character.
Steve Jobs must clear the air and make an official statement on his current health condition. For the money he is paid, Steve Jobs owes an explanation to Apple investors.
Your mother should have taught you to watch your language for, otherwise, we would need to wash your mouth with soap.
I did not use any profane words to merit punishment, and I only called you for what you were based on what you present. There is a difference, and I think someone that's really a lawyer would be able to grasp subtler distinctions.
Quote:
As I said, I'm not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs. I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform and, unlike you, I know the meaning of ILLEGAL, against the law or CRIMINAL FRAUD on Apple shareholders, as I am a corporate and business lawyer.
Personally, I would expect a person that says they are a lawyer to write much more coherent arguments than you do. All I see from you are blind rants and proverbially beating a dead horse. The SEC has dropped the case, so I'm not seeing what avenue you have to make your case, except posting rants on a board that just doesn't care about that matter anymore.
Quote:
Steve Jobs must clear the air and make an official statement on his current health condition.
Show me the law that says that then. While you are at it, take a cursory look at HIPPA. I think it's funny that you complain about someone else breaking the law, but then you advocate that they break a different law. Good going.
He makes one wrong move and .... BLAMMO. I've got him tracked.
I sure hope that AppleInsider remains a place where a civilized discussion of Apple and its CEO can take place for, otherwise, it would become only a teenager fanzine.
Some AppleInsider readers have attacked me because I recall 2 things:
1) A massive shareholder fraud has occured with illegal, backdated stock options;
2) Steve Jobs' qualifications to act as Apple CEO and President are based on a high school education.
I have read countless AppleInsider articles where you report Apple quarterly results and financial outlook, and every stock analyst's buoyant opinion on the future price of Apple stock.
I believed that, as a corporate and business lawyer, and 20 year Mac veteran, it was incumbent on me to remind potential investors that there is another side to the Apple story before "ma and pa" investors use their own money to invest in Apple stock.
A free market works with a full disclosure of facts before investors make a decision. I sure hope that AppleInsider remains a place of civilized discussion.
Every investor shoud read the following editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, before risking family savings, their children education funds or their own retirement funds on Apple stock:
I don't know Steve Jobs personally. I never met the man. But I read most of what was published on Apple over the last 20 years. And if I developped an unfavorable opinion of Steve Jobs, it is because of the stain on his character and accomplishments for which he has yet to offer any restitution: the illegal, backdated stock option scandal. There are a number of ongoing investigations and Court procedures, so that the matter won't go away any time soon.
Investors are entitled to invest in any stock they choose, for whatever reason they want, but should do so only after a complete assessment of the facts and opinions surrounding the company in which they want to invest. Hopefully, AppleInsider will remain a good source of information, financial and otherwise, on everything Apple.
Being cleared by Al Gore is not the same as doing something LEGAL and APPROPRIATE.
The U.S. Department of Justice has no choice but to prosecute Steve Jobs for a massive fraud against Apple investors. In the U.S.A., laws are enforced not on the basis of Who you are, but What you do.
BTW, ILLEGAL means something and bears consequences. Martha Stewart and lord Black were sent to jail for far less than a billion dollar fraud.
By his conduct, Steve Jobs has defrauded Apple shareholders, not offered any refund, and SHOULD face justice. By his prosecution, we will see what kind of country the U.S.A. is, a country of cheaters and fraudsters, or a country based on the rule of law with an independent judiciary and Justice department.
I'm not entirely clear on what year you think this is. Nobody mentioned Al Gore, you tool. Oh, and it's 2008... Al Gore left the Office of the Vice President on January 21 2001.
You say the Justice Department has "no choice" well actually you're right - no choice as no crime has been committed.
Oh and his experience of running Apple is not built on a high school education - it's built on many years of business experience. You seem fixated on the importance of high school qualifications and how it sets you up for life. Here's a tip from the real world: experience in business outweighs stupid bits of paper you got when you were 17.
In evidence I quote my own experience. I ran my own business from ages 17-21, sold it and now I'm the head of procurement for a multi million pound biotech company. Nothing I have EVER done in my jobs has required my high school education. Business requires forethought, common sense, the ability to take calculated risks... and the ability to shrug off those who are jealous and who try to drag you down (like you, in case you hadn't noticed).
my advice is to get a clue about who the actual current government is... and then get a life, you pathetic little twerp.
Some AppleInsider readers have attacked me because I recall 2 things:
1) A massive shareholder fraud has occured with illegal, backdated stock options;
2) Steve Jobs' qualifications to act as Apple CEO and President are based on a high school education.
1) This has been investigated and is not being pursued, because, guess what? Every corporation was doing it, and Apple was far from the worst offender. It's over. I know you thought this was when Steve Jobs would be punished for rising "above his station," but you're going to have to deal with the disappointment.
2) The same can be said of Bill Gates. How are you planning on bringing him down? Of course he was born legitimately in an upper-class family, not from "an unwed mother and a Syrian father" and a "blue-collar background." that's what's really griping your cookies, isn't it?
Comments
Actually humans (not "man") and apes are naturally omnivores, not carnivores. A pure meat diet would prolly kill us.
Actually, the traditional Eskimo diet is all-meat. That was one of the inspirations of the Atkins Diet.
According to TG Daily, Steve Jobs? vital signs belong to Apple investors.
See: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38598/118/
Steve Jobs will have to come clean about his health. I see 3 possibilities:
1) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that he has regular follow-up exams with his doctors and, so far, almost 4 years after his pancreatic cancer surgery, he is cancer free;
2) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that he has had a cancer recurrence, but he follows regular treatments and his doctors assure him that he can discharge his duties as Apple CEO and President. If it becomes necessary, Steve Jobs assures all Apple investors that he will step down and ask Apple to name his successor;
3) Steve Jobs issues a public statement where he declares that "All good things must come to an end" and resigns as Apple CEO and President of the Apple Board of directors. After stating his confidence in Apple, its employees and management, Steve Jobs recalls all that he has done for Apple since he returned at Apple in 1997. While expressing their gratitude for the exceptional contribution of Steve Jobs to the creation of Apple and its successful transition to Mac OS X and Intel, the Apple Board of directors and management team wish Steve Jobs a happy retirement and success in battling cancer.
As the President and CEO of an international company quoted on the NASDQ stock exchange, Steve Jobs owes us the truth about his health condition. And everyone wish him well, but he has to come clean on his current health condition.
OK.... I've tried to be reasonable in my prior responses to you, but now I see I have erred: You, sir, sound like a nut case + stuck vinyl.
EDIT: I've just had a look through most of his posts and in almost every one of them where he has cause to mention Steve Jobs or other Apple executives, he makes it perfectly clear he hates them and their "insane need to line their own pockets" (I paraphrase from one quote). His hatred of them seems quite irrational but it's nothing new: it's jealousy and it seems to be manifesting itself in these bullshit posts about things he doesn't actually know anything about. How DARE people be more successful than him?
ls this the same troll who made all those weird posts saying Jobs had schizophrenia (I fail to see wha qualifies him to make such a diagnosis if it is) and that he should leave? Why the hell would anyone gain pleasure from posting these nonsensical, totally irrational posts? They seem to originate from a deluded mind.
The man is a clown.
The man is a clown.
hahaha that made me laugh out loud. I used to have a teacher in primary school who used the term "clown" to describe kids who were deliberately acting like fools to get attention and to appear "interesting". Describes this WASTE of space down to a T...
Go private, Steve!!!! Screw those feeders on Wall Street!!!!
Especially when taken in the context of the manner in which Mr. Jobs conducted this most recent effort at spin control, it should be self evident that both Apple, Inc. and Mr. Jobs have already played fast and loose with the truth. With that as a given, neither has any remaining credibility in this matter.
Those who choose to rely upon these statements may come to regret their choice.
I have personally dealt with it and it is a rocky ride at times
I hope he continues to fight and beat it
VEGAN--someone who philosophically refuses to eat or use any type of animal-origin product. In addition to being strictly vegetarian, a vegan will not wear or own any wool or leather (and of course fur) products.
Actually, the traditional Eskimo diet is all-meat. That was one of the inspirations of the Atkins Diet.
The Inuit winter diet is mostly meat, fish, blubber etc. During the other, somewhat less hostile seasons, they do gather tubers, nuts, berries, seaweed and other plant-based materials. And while this adaptation does allow them to pack on the insulation necessary for survival in harsh climes, I think one would be hard-pressed to describe your basic "traditional" Inuit as healthy or long-lived. And wasn't Mr. Atkins technically obese when he died? Don't think he needed the insulation while living in NYC,,,
Why am I harping on this subject and not Jobs' health? Because it's his personal business and I could care less. I wouldn't have even bothered to post if it wasn't for that one "unnatural" comment unfairly linking his diet to his health issues.
Actually, the traditional Eskimo diet is all-meat. That was one of the inspirations of the Atkins Diet.
Look, I even got references!
http://books.google.com/books?id=fPD...7VZ2LkrTaVzg-E
Mybe if Steve ate some algae he'd put some weight on???
WTF?? Are you that much of a catastrophic tool? He's been cleared of all crimes by the SEC on the backdating issues. More importantly, he doesn't have to reveal any health issues as it's protected by law, all they have to report is his ability to serve as CEO, that's it, period, end of argument.
Christ, you make my head hurt.
Being cleared by Al Gore is not the same as doing something LEGAL and APPROPRIATE.
The U.S. Department of Justice has no choice but to prosecute Steve Jobs for a massive fraud against Apple investors. In the U.S.A., laws are enforced not on the basis of Who you are, but What you do.
BTW, ILLEGAL means something and bears consequences. Martha Stewart and lord Black were sent to jail for far less than a billion dollar fraud.
By his conduct, Steve Jobs has defrauded Apple shareholders, not offered any refund, and SHOULD face justice. By his prosecution, we will see what kind of country the U.S.A. is, a country of cheaters and fraudsters, or a country based on the rule of law with an independent judiciary and Justice department.
At least he didn't say this this time. A few choice quotes:
He posts a similar rant any time the subject of Steve Jobs, his health, or shortcomings of any Apple products come up. I'm not exactly a blind worshipper of Steve Jobs; he has several bees in his bonnet that I personally disagree with from a design and marketing point of view. (Of course, with my opinions and $2.00 you can buy a cup of coffee.) However, I think these kind of statements are really beyond the pale of polite discourse. (I have a feeling if Jobs were black, this post would have been deleted at the time.)
I'm sure Bill Gates would be interested to hear ouragan's psychological diagnosis of anyone who didn't complete a university degree, for whatever reason. Seriously, where does anybody get this kind of arrogance? Surely he must be richer than Jobs and Gates put together! And he deserves it, because I'm sure he was legitimately conceived and "completed a university degree." It really is an outrage that someone so much lower on the social scale than the great ouragan should have achieved the success Steve Jobs has! The world is really out of joint, isn't it?
Whenever you quote someone, it's important to place the quotes in context. My original comment did not include any reference to a March 5, 2008 Fortune Magazine editorial on Steve Jobs because, at that moment, my source of information was obvious to everyone.
Because AppleInsider readers might be misled by your choice of quotes, I have now corrected my original comment to include a full reference to the March 5, 2008 Fortune Magazine editorial.
Every investor shoud read the following editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, before risking family savings, their children education fund or retirement money on Apple stock:
"The trouble with Steve Jobs"
@ http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news...tune/index.htm
followed by a Steve Jobs interview published on the same day:
"Steve Jobs speaks out"
@ http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...une/index.html
I wrote 2 comments on the editorial of Peter Elkind and the Steve Jobs interview and I stand by what I wrote nearly 5 months ago:
"Schizophrenia or just border line psychotic?"
@ http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...62#post1225962
"Steve Jobs is an entrepreneur"
@ http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...28#post1226228
Your personal attacks show that you didn't read the feature article and the editorial published in Fortune Magazine. While you may disagree with them, I trust the credentials of Fortune Magazine journalists and editorialists far more than I trust your judgment.
I am not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs, and I am not looking for a fatherly figure in Steve Jobs. Instead, I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform who read most of what was published on Apple over the years.
Although unfavourable, my judgment on Steve Jobs is balanced by a recognition of his accomplishments. BTW, I never read or wrote any negative comment on Steve Jobs' accomplishments at Pixar. Steve Jobs had the wisdom to recognize the talent of Pixar employees and not to second guess their every decision. I submit to you that he should adopt the same approach for Apple.
When he was expelled from the Apple management team in 1985, Steve Jobs sold his founder's shares in Apple and, with the money, established NeXT Computers and bought Pixar. Steve Jobs sold NeXT to Apple in 1997 for a substantial profit and gained almost $5 billions from the sale of Pixar to Disney.
In the future, before you attack me with selective quotes, please read the editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, so you get to understand what I am talking about.
You may agree to disagree with me on the performance, personality and actions of Steve Jobs, but AppleInsider readers are entitled to the views and opinions of everyone, especially when they are based on an article or an editorial published in a mainstream media.
Hey little troll, there is no law saying you have to disclose the specifics of your health to the public. In fact, it's illegal for Apple or anyone else to disclose that if the individual doesn't want to. If you're so concerned about law, why are you being such a hypocrite? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're just a worthless troll.
Your mother should have taught you to watch your language for, otherwise, we would need to wash your mouth with soap.
As I said, I'm not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs. I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform and, unlike you, I know the meaning of ILLEGAL, against the law or CRIMINAL FRAUD on Apple shareholders, as I am a corporate and business lawyer.
The requirements of corporate law, securities law, and Stock Exchange regulations are more stringent for a CEO than a mere office worker, telephone operator or other "dime a dozen" employee.
Steve Jobs earns $15 millions per year as a basis salary to discharge his functions at Apple, to which you must add a full health insurance coverage for both Steve Jobs and his family. And his private jet expenses are paid by Apple for his business trips and, it would seem, his family vacations. And that's before any stock option award, both legal and ILLEGAL.
To compare, the CEO of Canada's largest bank earns just $6 millions per year. But the man is HONEST and would never defraud shareholders. Honesty is a measure of character.
Steve Jobs must clear the air and make an official statement on his current health condition. For the money he is paid, Steve Jobs owes an explanation to Apple investors.
Your mother should have taught you to watch your language for, otherwise, we would need to wash your mouth with soap.
I did not use any profane words to merit punishment, and I only called you for what you were based on what you present. There is a difference, and I think someone that's really a lawyer would be able to grasp subtler distinctions.
As I said, I'm not a teenager with pimples and a crush on Steve Jobs. I am a 20 year veteran of the Mac platform and, unlike you, I know the meaning of ILLEGAL, against the law or CRIMINAL FRAUD on Apple shareholders, as I am a corporate and business lawyer.
Personally, I would expect a person that says they are a lawyer to write much more coherent arguments than you do. All I see from you are blind rants and proverbially beating a dead horse. The SEC has dropped the case, so I'm not seeing what avenue you have to make your case, except posting rants on a board that just doesn't care about that matter anymore.
Steve Jobs must clear the air and make an official statement on his current health condition.
Show me the law that says that then. While you are at it, take a cursory look at HIPPA. I think it's funny that you complain about someone else breaking the law, but then you advocate that they break a different law. Good going.
He makes one wrong move and .... BLAMMO. I've got him tracked.
I sure hope that AppleInsider remains a place where a civilized discussion of Apple and its CEO can take place for, otherwise, it would become only a teenager fanzine.
Some AppleInsider readers have attacked me because I recall 2 things:
1) A massive shareholder fraud has occured with illegal, backdated stock options;
2) Steve Jobs' qualifications to act as Apple CEO and President are based on a high school education.
I have read countless AppleInsider articles where you report Apple quarterly results and financial outlook, and every stock analyst's buoyant opinion on the future price of Apple stock.
I believed that, as a corporate and business lawyer, and 20 year Mac veteran, it was incumbent on me to remind potential investors that there is another side to the Apple story before "ma and pa" investors use their own money to invest in Apple stock.
A free market works with a full disclosure of facts before investors make a decision. I sure hope that AppleInsider remains a place of civilized discussion.
Every investor shoud read the following editorial by Peter Elkind, Fortune Magazine, before risking family savings, their children education funds or their own retirement funds on Apple stock:
"The trouble with Steve Jobs"
@ http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news...tune/index.htm
followed by a Steve Jobs interview published on the same day:
"Steve Jobs speaks out"
@ http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...une/index.html
I don't know Steve Jobs personally. I never met the man. But I read most of what was published on Apple over the last 20 years. And if I developped an unfavorable opinion of Steve Jobs, it is because of the stain on his character and accomplishments for which he has yet to offer any restitution: the illegal, backdated stock option scandal. There are a number of ongoing investigations and Court procedures, so that the matter won't go away any time soon.
Investors are entitled to invest in any stock they choose, for whatever reason they want, but should do so only after a complete assessment of the facts and opinions surrounding the company in which they want to invest. Hopefully, AppleInsider will remain a good source of information, financial and otherwise, on everything Apple.
Being cleared by Al Gore is not the same as doing something LEGAL and APPROPRIATE.
The U.S. Department of Justice has no choice but to prosecute Steve Jobs for a massive fraud against Apple investors. In the U.S.A., laws are enforced not on the basis of Who you are, but What you do.
BTW, ILLEGAL means something and bears consequences. Martha Stewart and lord Black were sent to jail for far less than a billion dollar fraud.
By his conduct, Steve Jobs has defrauded Apple shareholders, not offered any refund, and SHOULD face justice. By his prosecution, we will see what kind of country the U.S.A. is, a country of cheaters and fraudsters, or a country based on the rule of law with an independent judiciary and Justice department.
I'm not entirely clear on what year you think this is. Nobody mentioned Al Gore, you tool. Oh, and it's 2008... Al Gore left the Office of the Vice President on January 21 2001.
You say the Justice Department has "no choice" well actually you're right - no choice as no crime has been committed.
Oh and his experience of running Apple is not built on a high school education - it's built on many years of business experience. You seem fixated on the importance of high school qualifications and how it sets you up for life. Here's a tip from the real world: experience in business outweighs stupid bits of paper you got when you were 17.
In evidence I quote my own experience. I ran my own business from ages 17-21, sold it and now I'm the head of procurement for a multi million pound biotech company. Nothing I have EVER done in my jobs has required my high school education. Business requires forethought, common sense, the ability to take calculated risks... and the ability to shrug off those who are jealous and who try to drag you down (like you, in case you hadn't noticed).
my advice is to get a clue about who the actual current government is... and then get a life, you pathetic little twerp.
Some AppleInsider readers have attacked me because I recall 2 things:
1) A massive shareholder fraud has occured with illegal, backdated stock options;
2) Steve Jobs' qualifications to act as Apple CEO and President are based on a high school education.
1) This has been investigated and is not being pursued, because, guess what? Every corporation was doing it, and Apple was far from the worst offender. It's over. I know you thought this was when Steve Jobs would be punished for rising "above his station," but you're going to have to deal with the disappointment.
2) The same can be said of Bill Gates. How are you planning on bringing him down? Of course he was born legitimately in an upper-class family, not from "an unwed mother and a Syrian father" and a "blue-collar background." that's what's really griping your cookies, isn't it?
3) Get bent!