U2 goes on and does something with RIM for the Blackberry, which will probably be something with less whiz-bang bells and whistles. However, Apple loses the promotional opportunity completely. Furthermore, Apple loses some of its edge as the media smartphone as opposed to just the smartphone.
Right, because promoting a U2 concert tour validates a RIM smartphone as an astonishingly capable media player. And of course having the iPod app and the iTunes store built in the iPhone only makes it a smartphone with some media features. Furthermore, anyone who still considers the iPhone as just a smartphone and not an entirely new mobile platform, doesn't have a clue about computing technology. Who are these tools that write this stuff?
I'm a fan of U2, always have been... I thought they were really desperate when they did the whole iPod thing with Apple. This promotional deal with Blackberry pushes them further into that hole. Makes you lose a bit of respect for a band that fought so hard against corporate rock, well on the surface anyway.
Besides all that, who really cares about who's promoting U2's concert? Except maybe people in their late thirties and early forties who are still hanging onto whatever is left of their youth?
Bono: Sign up for the Developer Program, hire some actual developers and designers. Have them interact with the iPhone Program. Deal with it. The fact you think you deserve the royal treatment and got rebuked should tell you that U2 is puny compared to Apple.
Grow up and pay your taxes lad. Stop cheating the government of your fair share and then parading around about how cruel governments are by not giving back more money.
"Grow up and pay your taxes"? Taxation without representation is theft.
...also, I stand by my theory that this whole thing blew up because Jobs wasn't around to negotiate some kind of arrangement. He could placate the "artists" while still giving up nothing on the business side.
The bottom line though is that this is yet another example of how Apple needs to open up and play nicer with partners. Somehow though I can?t imagine Steve Jobs is spending his time off right now ripping up iU2 photos.
I don't buy this argument, especially without knowing specifically what this "great idea" is. It sounds to me like U2's request for "access to their labs and people" actually means engineering support. I don't necessarily fault Apple for deciding not to make such an investment. Do you suppose U2 actually offered to pay for product development efforts?
Apple's running a business, and in my opinion, their engineering staff is stretched pretty thin. They have to make intelligent decisions about how best to utilize their resources. I trust Apple's judgement in the matter.
I don't buy this argument, especially without knowing specifically what this "great idea" is. It sounds to me like U2's request for "access to their labs and people" actually means engineering support. I don't necessarily fault Apple for deciding not to make such an investment. Do you suppose U2 actually offered to pay for product development efforts?
Apple's running a business, and in my opinion, their engineering staff is stretched pretty thin. They have to make intelligent decisions about how best to utilize their resources. I trust Apple's judgement in the matter.
It sounds like Bono is similar to many people who post here, in that he thinks he knows how
to run Apple better than Apple's management. Magnify that sentiment many times due to
the megalomania a person gets from being treated like a god for decades, and it is entirely
predictable that U2 would want to dictate to Apple (and that Apple would decline).
Apple's penchant for keeping its partners out of the loop reportedly cost the company its relationship with alternative rock band U2, which recently drew sponsorship from rival smartphone market Research in Motion.
I read AI's report and the linked article, and I don't see anything that suggests that Apple's "penchant for keeping its partners out of the loop", arrogance, or secrecy, had anything whatsoever to do with this. What seems much more likely to be the case is that U2 wanted access to Apple's engineering resources, and Apple had different plans.
U2 hasn't had a decent album since achtung baby. Their best days are over. Good luck selling your app for $2.99 which last I heard was rim's minimum app price.
It is basically business. Apple and U2 had mutual benefit from working together back then but not anymore. It is not difficult to understand. It is not like they both did it for world peace.
"I'm very excited about this," Bono is reported to have said. "Research In Motion is going to give us what Apple wouldn't -- access to their labs and their people so we can do something really spectacular."
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and here i thought bono had invented the palm pre all by himself... you know... in his secret lair...
It seems Apple now has a great relationship with Coldplay, given the itunes store ad of viva la vida and frequently playing their music before the keynotes.
Bono: Sign up for the Developer Program, hire some actual developers and designers. Have them interact with the iPhone Program. Deal with it. The fact you think you deserve the royal treatment and got rebuked should tell you that U2 is puny compared to Apple.
Grow up and pay your taxes lad. Stop cheating the government of your fair share and then parading around about how cruel governments are by not giving back more money.
In the words of Bill Hicks, Bono was off the artistic roll call years ago. Their early stuff was OK, but everything else is the musical equivalent of eating paper. Recycled paper at that. U2 is a company that makes product, not a band that makes music.
If anything, U2 dryhumping RIM (there's an awesome double entendre in there, I'm sure of it) means the iPhone just got even cooler. I know it was a relief when he switched from black to those ridiculous red shades, and I could start wearing my sunglasses again without looking like a complete berk.
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U2 goes on and does something with RIM for the Blackberry, which will probably be something with less whiz-bang bells and whistles. However, Apple loses the promotional opportunity completely. Furthermore, Apple loses some of its edge as the media smartphone as opposed to just the smartphone.
Right, because promoting a U2 concert tour validates a RIM smartphone as an astonishingly capable media player. And of course having the iPod app and the iTunes store built in the iPhone only makes it a smartphone with some media features. Furthermore, anyone who still considers the iPhone as just a smartphone and not an entirely new mobile platform, doesn't have a clue about computing technology. Who are these tools that write this stuff?
I'm a fan of U2, always have been... I thought they were really desperate when they did the whole iPod thing with Apple. This promotional deal with Blackberry pushes them further into that hole. Makes you lose a bit of respect for a band that fought so hard against corporate rock, well on the surface anyway.
Besides all that, who really cares about who's promoting U2's concert? Except maybe people in their late thirties and early forties who are still hanging onto whatever is left of their youth?
Bono: Sign up for the Developer Program, hire some actual developers and designers. Have them interact with the iPhone Program. Deal with it. The fact you think you deserve the royal treatment and got rebuked should tell you that U2 is puny compared to Apple.
Grow up and pay your taxes lad. Stop cheating the government of your fair share and then parading around about how cruel governments are by not giving back more money.
"Grow up and pay your taxes"?
"Grow up and pay your taxes"?
Indeed. Besides, if Obama's appointees don't have to pay them, why should we?
Indeed. Besides, if Obama's appointees don't have to pay them, why should we?
Just one of the supreme ironies of Geithner's appointment.
According to AppleInsider, ?
But this ultimately ends up hurting Apple.//
The bottom line though is that this is yet another example of how Apple needs to open up and play nicer with partners. Somehow though I can?t imagine Steve Jobs is spending his time off right now ripping up iU2 photos.
I don't buy this argument, especially without knowing specifically what this "great idea" is. It sounds to me like U2's request for "access to their labs and people" actually means engineering support. I don't necessarily fault Apple for deciding not to make such an investment. Do you suppose U2 actually offered to pay for product development efforts?
Apple's running a business, and in my opinion, their engineering staff is stretched pretty thin. They have to make intelligent decisions about how best to utilize their resources. I trust Apple's judgement in the matter.
I don't buy this argument, especially without knowing specifically what this "great idea" is. It sounds to me like U2's request for "access to their labs and people" actually means engineering support. I don't necessarily fault Apple for deciding not to make such an investment. Do you suppose U2 actually offered to pay for product development efforts?
Apple's running a business, and in my opinion, their engineering staff is stretched pretty thin. They have to make intelligent decisions about how best to utilize their resources. I trust Apple's judgement in the matter.
It sounds like Bono is similar to many people who post here, in that he thinks he knows how
to run Apple better than Apple's management. Magnify that sentiment many times due to
the megalomania a person gets from being treated like a god for decades, and it is entirely
predictable that U2 would want to dictate to Apple (and that Apple would decline).
Apple's penchant for keeping its partners out of the loop reportedly cost the company its relationship with alternative rock band U2, which recently drew sponsorship from rival smartphone market Research in Motion.
I read AI's report and the linked article, and I don't see anything that suggests that Apple's "penchant for keeping its partners out of the loop", arrogance, or secrecy, had anything whatsoever to do with this. What seems much more likely to be the case is that U2 wanted access to Apple's engineering resources, and Apple had different plans.
Slow news day I guess.
It's kind of like that old philosophical question...
If U2 joins RIM, Does anyone care?
I don't, so Apple isn't going to make an ugly iPod I wouldn't buy anyway.
They should brand it as U2's RIM Job.
U2 has not been alternative since the 1990s. Now they just do bland pop rock. Long ago, however, they were brilliant.
Agreed. 100%.
I like that U2 and RIM have a "shared vision." Because I think corporate "rock" is awesome.
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"I'm very excited about this," Bono is reported to have said. "Research In Motion is going to give us what Apple wouldn't -- access to their labs and their people so we can do something really spectacular."
snip
and here i thought bono had invented the palm pre all by himself... you know... in his secret lair...
Apple never sponsors anything anyway, do they?
Bono: Sign up for the Developer Program, hire some actual developers and designers. Have them interact with the iPhone Program. Deal with it. The fact you think you deserve the royal treatment and got rebuked should tell you that U2 is puny compared to Apple.
Grow up and pay your taxes lad. Stop cheating the government of your fair share and then parading around about how cruel governments are by not giving back more money.
If anything, U2 dryhumping RIM (there's an awesome double entendre in there, I'm sure of it) means the iPhone just got even cooler. I know it was a relief when he switched from black to those ridiculous red shades, and I could start wearing my sunglasses again without looking like a complete berk.
U2's last relevant album was Achtung Baby, after that it was all down hill...