How many DVD players are out there already, considering technology is out, what? - 10 years? - and how many BR players..? New standard doesn't take over in a blink of an eye.
And it may never.
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I am surprised DVDs didn't sell 5-1, or even 10-1.
I'm not - now that I have netflix and this thing called the Internet I hardly ever buy DVDs or BR.
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There was a nice post in this tread - look for it - with info on adoption rate of BR and DVD at the same age. According to that, BR is being adopted twice as fast as DVD was when introduced.
VHS to DVD was a quantum leap. Totally different format (what, you can't record?!?!) and mindset. It took years just to overcome that, but it's happened. BR is just a fancier DVD - and that's how many people view it. If anything, you would think it's adoption rate would be faster.
I think BR has a much tougher fight ahead of it, esp. with things like Hulu, Netflix and heck even Redbox (who doesn't like free movie rentals - Redbox codes are all over the Internet). That and it's inane pricing. Some, all - take your picks which factors are slowing it's adoption, but it's hardly a run away success when if you look at it, it should be since it's concepts are very familiar.
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When DVD standard was released, number of VHS tapes - rented and sold - was much bigger than DVDs... until DVD caught up. What does it prove..?
There wasn't the Internet nor downloading or streaming video in the VHS to DVD switch.
There is now.
Don't get me wrong, I have a BR player. But if Netflix had upped their charge for BR disks before I bought, I wouldn't bother now. I still may drop BR support from Netflix and I sure as heck am not going to be buying movies at $40 or even $30 a pop.
Sony and the studios are (still) their own worst enemy.
...Sometimes, I wonder if MS is not doing things like that on purpose. Give people something to dislike, then come out with "saviour". In the process, people get used to idea of inevitable change.
....
Was MS lazy, or did they expect problems with Vista acceptance and simply didn't bother - or even did that on purpose?
No need for conspiracy theories - writing good code is hard.
Also, I do applaud MS for "stuffing the genie back in the bottle" with regard to drivers. In the NT 4 time frame they moved allot of stuff from userspace into the Kernel for speed reasons, and ended up seriously compromising the integrity of their OS. The fixed quite a bit of that with Vista, but basically invalidated all their existing drivers in the process. Then they ran behind and didn't exactly give hardware manufacturers the time they were used to for writing new drivers.
Couple that with a new OS with low adoption and high resistance and as a HW manufacturer, how much priority are you going to put on getting that new driver out and then tweaking it once it's released?
So they had quite a bit of momentum to overcome. But they have, Vista in it's current form is actually quite useable but the damage to perception has been done (fair or not). So hence the re-branding to Windows 7 - ditch the vista name, slap on some new UI elements and poof - all better now.
One of the prices they pay for their open architecture. The fact that so many Windows users are oblivious to it for the negative that it is still amuses me. It's not a fatal negative, and Microsoft and the hardware manufactures eventually over came it, but watching people fuss about it is just silly - it is what it is. It was eventually fixed. Just plan accordingly!
I was considering white Macbook 6 months ago for my notebook, but choose not to since at the time I didn't know much about Mac and OSX to feel comfortable with purchase. That being said, white Macbook had approximately same price as 13" HP and Toshibas, albeit with a bit smaller HDD and less RAM on average... but still very tempting.
So... I started checking on AI at the time, and continued after I gave up on purchasing Mac. A bit out of habit, a bit out of curiosity. There is always next notebook around the corner, anyway. I'll probably virtualize OSX in the meantime and give it a go; unfortunately I know no one with Mac, and playing with them in a shop simply isn't enough.
I have no problem believing Macs can last, because my experience with PCs is the same (which works well with my beliefs they are built with same parts). Out of 8 functional computers in my house, oldest one is almost 9 years old P3 Toshiba notebook. With 15GB HDD. My wife managed to crack plastic corner of the screen cover by dropping notebook from bed to hard floor, some 5 years ago. It still works with no problems. In all that time, it was re-imaged once - when my wife moved from that machine to her new notebook, 2 and a half years ago. I didn't really have to reinstall it, but wanted to remove all her files and info and re-imaging was easier than search & destroy.
Some other computers are also 4+ years old - Celeron desktop, first-gen AMD 64 desktop, one P4 system.
Would you believe that, in last 9 years of personal computing, I had to replace 1 motherboard (old Transcend Athlon board with VIA chipset) and one no-name power supply. All other bits and pieces (and whole systems) were used much as I wanted to use them, later given to friends with lower computing needs. To my knowledge, I don't know if anything died before new users decided to retire that equipment (or give it someone else and I lost trace). Some really old stuff is thrown away - SD RAM modules, GF 2 MX card... some other stuff that no one would use nowadays.
So you see - it pisses me of a bit (and amuses me a lot) when some greenhorn rushes in and starts delivering all-mighty wisdom about PCs being pile of junk that doesn't work at all, and is only capable of freezing, crashing, dying and loosing their respective owners' important data.
Utter bullshit.
I'm sure everyone can find more PC than Mac users having hardware-related problems, but not many people seem to consider there are at least 10 PC users on every single Mac user. Even with exactly same built quality, simple statistic will give 10x more problems in PC world in general. But per user? I don't think so.
So you don't own a Mac yet you know all the "problems" of owning one?
I really hope for you guys in USA that Obama will deliver on his promises.
Here in NZ, uber-speed uncapped unbundled you-name-it Internet is being promised before each elections for the last 8+ years, and nothing significant happened in the mean time. Oh, wait - it did! Local provider, Xtra, gave me last year 40 instead of 30GB a month, and opened my DL speed to full ADSL specs (theoretical 8Mbits/s). Upload is still bellow 1Mbit.
But I always put red mark on calendar for every day I have actually seen DL speeds close to 8Mbits.
What do you think, how many red markers do I have..?
Blu Ray is going to lose the format war versus encoded movie. Why bother with discs if you can stuff 100 HD movies in a $100 drive and stream it anywhere in your house with a push of a button?
Never bother with mail-in rentals or going to blockbusters?
Blu Ray is going to lose the format war versus encoded movie. Why bother with discs if you can stuff 100 HD movies in a $100 drive and stream it anywhere in your house with a push of a button?
Never bother with mail-in rentals or going to blockbusters?
Screw blu ray, it will be over soon.
You wouldn't be so bitter and angry if you weren't dumb enough to buy into the dead end HD-DVD format.
So...it's just a coincidence you sound like this clown:
Tauron @ Dec 30th 2006 10:44PM
"HD DVD will win the format war. I already pre-ordered an HD-XA2 because I'm that positive about this particular format. I've seen a Blu-ray demonstrated at a local electronics store, and the criticism is accurate. Blu-ray doesn't look much better than an upconverted DVD. An HD broadcast via satellite looks better. I have not seen an HD DVD, but, the vast majority of the consumers are behind it, and they all confer that HD DVD looks better than a Blu-ray. Sorry SONY, but history repeats. (remember Beta?) The only thing is, $999.99 for this player won't help Toshiba. Another reason HD DVD will win this war is Toshiba's prices. All prior models are available for about $500 if you know where to look. But, eventually this model's price will drop too. Just like standard DVD players when they first came out."
So you don't own a Mac yet you know all the "problems" of owning one?
Oh brother. What a waste of time you are.
And yet, there you are replying to me.
Nothing more interesting to do on your Mac..?
But since you've already decided to waste your time, read some of my post(s) again. I'm not writing about problems of owning Mac. I'm writing about problems of purchasing Mac.
Additionaly, I'm writing about "problems" of owning PC, only because I happen to own some, so I think I just might be a bit more knowledgeable about them than an average Mac user - who, for some reason, enjoy discussing Windows on a Mac dedicated site.
No they are not. And in their latest ad campaign the part that they are not telling you about is, ironically, the only part of a computer that they make... the OS.
Even "the Wow Starts Now" was at least about a Microsoft product.
As someone already mentioned, Apple was putting sole emphasis on OS in their ads, completely ignoring hardware (which they are making and selling as well).
It is a nature of every ad campaign to focus on positive points. You don't waste millions of dollars to inform your buyers that your product is not as good as competitor's one.
I'm not - now that I have netflix and this thing called the Internet I hardly ever buy DVDs or BR.
VHS to DVD was a quantum leap. Totally different format (what, you can't record?!?!) and mindset. It took years just to overcome that, but it's happened. BR is just a fancier DVD - and that's how many people view it. If anything, you would think it's adoption rate would be faster.
I think BR has a much tougher fight ahead of it, esp. with things like Hulu, Netflix and heck even Redbox (who doesn't like free movie rentals - Redbox codes are all over the Internet). That and it's inane pricing. Some, all - take your picks which factors are slowing it's adoption, but it's hardly a run away success when if you look at it, it should be since it's concepts are very familiar.
There wasn't the Internet nor downloading or streaming video in the VHS to DVD switch.
There is now.
Don't get me wrong, I have a BR player. But if Netflix had upped their charge for BR disks before I bought, I wouldn't bother now. I still may drop BR support from Netflix and I sure as heck am not going to be buying movies at $40 or even $30 a pop.
Sony and the studios are (still) their own worst enemy.
Yes, there is Internet - but it still is not up there for majority. I don't think it will be there while BR lasts, anyway.
It might be that BR will be the last HD delivery standard before Internet takes over, but I doubt that. People still like to own movies. Collect them. Give them as a present. Get them as a present.
As someone already mentioned, Apple was putting sole emphasis on OS in their ads, completely ignoring hardware (which they are making and selling as well).
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
Can't recall too many hardware related ads - aside those related to peripherals (camera, printer...). But I probably didn't see them all anyway. Will check on Youtube.
Microsoft some 25+ years ago decided to have hardware partners. Apple decided to be their own hardware partner. As I mentioned before, MS realises direct OS compare would not do them much good, so they decided to promote hardware that runs their software.
No, I didn't miss your point; I'm just not finding it strange. As I mentioned, both companies decided to advertise stronger points of their platforms, while ignoring weak points; in MS case, it is variety - and pricing - of hardware that runs their solutions. Other message they are delivering - intentionally or not - might be something in line of "We are not just one company; we are whole front of allies united behind same standards".
Can't recall too many hardware related ads - aside those related to peripherals (camera, printer...). But I probably didn't see them all anyway. Will check on Youtube.
Even those ads about the peripherals are really about how the OS can connect to them automatically.
Edit: From 2006, "Out of the Box" is about the simplified HW and SW when you setup and start up for the first time and "Accident" is about the MagSafe connector. Those are the only two I saw from a quick run through of the thumbnails from: http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/
(You do know there were some other versions of Windows in the meantime, don't you? Just checking)
What you are saying, in the nutshell, is that you were not capable to learn how to use your system, and now whole world is guilty for your decision to waste money on imbecile-proof OS.
Pathetic...
(But keep breeding. Slowly...)
When you calm down and recover some manners, maybe we can talk as human beings. Up to you.
Thank you for the reality check. I would love to discuss this as intelligent human beings - unfortunately intelligence seems to be something you are lacking!
I was actually perfectly calm when I wrote that thanks. What's the point of posting 299 on site about Macs when you clearly just like to stir things up.
To answer your questions - yes I am aware of other versions of Windoze (did you actually read my post? Namely my wife uses a PC) I have had the misfortune of using 3.11, 95, 98, 2000, XP and Vista and none of them even compare to OS8 on the Mac!
I am more than capable of learning how to use a computer system along with other thing like how to spell (it's "breathe" not breed - just a heads up! What's the matter Vista not come with a spell checker?) Fingers crossed you never "Breed"! That's all the world needs - spawn of Nikon
Waste Money on the operating system? Last time I checked Leopard (which is a full version of the operating system) was still cheaper than the Home Basic version of Vista? (And at least my operating system works!)
iMovie is a video editing piece of software - so how would it help me compile the list of faults with the advert - typical PC user always looking for a difficult solution to an easy problem! Did you need to edit your registry to get Internet Explorer to work so you could post your messages?
I think you may be on the wrong site my friend - this is Appleinsider.com not ohmygodiamsojadedbyhowcackmywindowscomputerissoine edtorantaboutittomakemyselffeelbetter.com
You were stung as child weren't you or do you just get off on negative attention?
Did Mummy force feed you apples and now every time someone of something is apple related it sets off one of spasms?
They should attack this from the piracy angle - say by not including the cost of the software they're tantamount to admitting that the driving force behind PC sales is freely available pirated software.
Remember the Ballmer comment that 90% of content on all iPods was stolen?
So...it's just a coincidence you sound like this clown:
Tauron @ Dec 30th 2006 10:44PM
"HD DVD will win the format war. I already pre-ordered an HD-XA2 because I'm that positive about this particular format. I've seen a Blu-ray demonstrated at a local electronics store, and the criticism is accurate. Blu-ray doesn't look much better than an upconverted DVD. An HD broadcast via satellite looks better. I have not seen an HD DVD, but, the vast majority of the consumers are behind it, and they all confer that HD DVD looks better than a Blu-ray. Sorry SONY, but history repeats. (remember Beta?) The only thing is, $999.99 for this player won't help Toshiba. Another reason HD DVD will win this war is Toshiba's prices. All prior models are available for about $500 if you know where to look. But, eventually this model's price will drop too. Just like standard DVD players when they first came out."
I never said that.
Link the post where I say that in this thread or shutup and admit you are a lying rat.
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
That is what happens when you have nothing to say for yourself: you just bash your competitor.
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How many DVD players are out there already, considering technology is out, what? - 10 years? - and how many BR players..? New standard doesn't take over in a blink of an eye.
And it may never.
I am surprised DVDs didn't sell 5-1, or even 10-1.
I'm not - now that I have netflix and this thing called the Internet I hardly ever buy DVDs or BR.
There was a nice post in this tread - look for it - with info on adoption rate of BR and DVD at the same age. According to that, BR is being adopted twice as fast as DVD was when introduced.
VHS to DVD was a quantum leap. Totally different format (what, you can't record?!?!) and mindset. It took years just to overcome that, but it's happened. BR is just a fancier DVD - and that's how many people view it. If anything, you would think it's adoption rate would be faster.
I think BR has a much tougher fight ahead of it, esp. with things like Hulu, Netflix and heck even Redbox (who doesn't like free movie rentals - Redbox codes are all over the Internet). That and it's inane pricing. Some, all - take your picks which factors are slowing it's adoption, but it's hardly a run away success when if you look at it, it should be since it's concepts are very familiar.
When DVD standard was released, number of VHS tapes - rented and sold - was much bigger than DVDs... until DVD caught up. What does it prove..?
There wasn't the Internet nor downloading or streaming video in the VHS to DVD switch.
There is now.
Don't get me wrong, I have a BR player. But if Netflix had upped their charge for BR disks before I bought, I wouldn't bother now. I still may drop BR support from Netflix and I sure as heck am not going to be buying movies at $40 or even $30 a pop.
Sony and the studios are (still) their own worst enemy.
...Sometimes, I wonder if MS is not doing things like that on purpose. Give people something to dislike, then come out with "saviour". In the process, people get used to idea of inevitable change.
....
Was MS lazy, or did they expect problems with Vista acceptance and simply didn't bother - or even did that on purpose?
No need for conspiracy theories - writing good code is hard.
Also, I do applaud MS for "stuffing the genie back in the bottle" with regard to drivers. In the NT 4 time frame they moved allot of stuff from userspace into the Kernel for speed reasons, and ended up seriously compromising the integrity of their OS. The fixed quite a bit of that with Vista, but basically invalidated all their existing drivers in the process. Then they ran behind and didn't exactly give hardware manufacturers the time they were used to for writing new drivers.
Couple that with a new OS with low adoption and high resistance and as a HW manufacturer, how much priority are you going to put on getting that new driver out and then tweaking it once it's released?
So they had quite a bit of momentum to overcome. But they have, Vista in it's current form is actually quite useable but the damage to perception has been done (fair or not). So hence the re-branding to Windows 7 - ditch the vista name, slap on some new UI elements and poof - all better now.
One of the prices they pay for their open architecture. The fact that so many Windows users are oblivious to it for the negative that it is still amuses me. It's not a fatal negative, and Microsoft and the hardware manufactures eventually over came it, but watching people fuss about it is just silly - it is what it is. It was eventually fixed. Just plan accordingly!
No I don't.
I was considering white Macbook 6 months ago for my notebook, but choose not to since at the time I didn't know much about Mac and OSX to feel comfortable with purchase. That being said, white Macbook had approximately same price as 13" HP and Toshibas, albeit with a bit smaller HDD and less RAM on average... but still very tempting.
So... I started checking on AI at the time, and continued after I gave up on purchasing Mac. A bit out of habit, a bit out of curiosity. There is always next notebook around the corner, anyway. I'll probably virtualize OSX in the meantime and give it a go; unfortunately I know no one with Mac, and playing with them in a shop simply isn't enough.
I have no problem believing Macs can last, because my experience with PCs is the same (which works well with my beliefs they are built with same parts). Out of 8 functional computers in my house, oldest one is almost 9 years old P3 Toshiba notebook. With 15GB HDD. My wife managed to crack plastic corner of the screen cover by dropping notebook from bed to hard floor, some 5 years ago. It still works with no problems. In all that time, it was re-imaged once - when my wife moved from that machine to her new notebook, 2 and a half years ago. I didn't really have to reinstall it, but wanted to remove all her files and info and re-imaging was easier than search & destroy.
Some other computers are also 4+ years old - Celeron desktop, first-gen AMD 64 desktop, one P4 system.
Would you believe that, in last 9 years of personal computing, I had to replace 1 motherboard (old Transcend Athlon board with VIA chipset) and one no-name power supply. All other bits and pieces (and whole systems) were used much as I wanted to use them, later given to friends with lower computing needs. To my knowledge, I don't know if anything died before new users decided to retire that equipment (or give it someone else and I lost trace). Some really old stuff is thrown away - SD RAM modules, GF 2 MX card... some other stuff that no one would use nowadays.
So you see - it pisses me of a bit (and amuses me a lot) when some greenhorn rushes in and starts delivering all-mighty wisdom about PCs being pile of junk that doesn't work at all, and is only capable of freezing, crashing, dying and loosing their respective owners' important data.
Utter bullshit.
I'm sure everyone can find more PC than Mac users having hardware-related problems, but not many people seem to consider there are at least 10 PC users on every single Mac user. Even with exactly same built quality, simple statistic will give 10x more problems in PC world in general. But per user? I don't think so.
So you don't own a Mac yet you know all the "problems" of owning one?
Oh brother. What a waste of time you are.
I really hope for you guys in USA that Obama will deliver on his promises.
Here in NZ, uber-speed uncapped unbundled you-name-it Internet is being promised before each elections for the last 8+ years, and nothing significant happened in the mean time. Oh, wait - it did! Local provider, Xtra, gave me last year 40 instead of 30GB a month, and opened my DL speed to full ADSL specs (theoretical 8Mbits/s). Upload is still bellow 1Mbit.
But I always put red mark on calendar for every day I have actually seen DL speeds close to 8Mbits.
What do you think, how many red markers do I have..?
What is New Zeland?
Never bother with mail-in rentals or going to blockbusters?
Screw blu ray, it will be over soon.
Blu Ray is going to lose the format war versus encoded movie. Why bother with discs if you can stuff 100 HD movies in a $100 drive and stream it anywhere in your house with a push of a button?
Never bother with mail-in rentals or going to blockbusters?
Screw blu ray, it will be over soon.
You wouldn't be so bitter and angry if you weren't dumb enough to buy into the dead end HD-DVD format.
You wouldn't be so bitter and angry if you weren't dumb enough to buy into the dead end HD-DVD format.
I never bought an HDDVD or bluray. Unlike you who wasted $500 to buy a bluray.
I watch HD movies for free on my $300 ATV which BTW also does music, podcasts, pictures, etc, with a push of a button.
Tauron @ Dec 30th 2006 10:44PM
"HD DVD will win the format war. I already pre-ordered an HD-XA2 because I'm that positive about this particular format. I've seen a Blu-ray demonstrated at a local electronics store, and the criticism is accurate. Blu-ray doesn't look much better than an upconverted DVD. An HD broadcast via satellite looks better. I have not seen an HD DVD, but, the vast majority of the consumers are behind it, and they all confer that HD DVD looks better than a Blu-ray. Sorry SONY, but history repeats. (remember Beta?) The only thing is, $999.99 for this player won't help Toshiba. Another reason HD DVD will win this war is Toshiba's prices. All prior models are available for about $500 if you know where to look. But, eventually this model's price will drop too. Just like standard DVD players when they first came out."
So you don't own a Mac yet you know all the "problems" of owning one?
Oh brother. What a waste of time you are.
And yet, there you are replying to me.
Nothing more interesting to do on your Mac..?
But since you've already decided to waste your time, read some of my post(s) again. I'm not writing about problems of owning Mac. I'm writing about problems of purchasing Mac.
Additionaly, I'm writing about "problems" of owning PC, only because I happen to own some, so I think I just might be a bit more knowledgeable about them than an average Mac user - who, for some reason, enjoy discussing Windows on a Mac dedicated site.
Figure that out.
What is New Zeland?
Don't worry about that - I wouldn't expect you to know anyway
No they are not. And in their latest ad campaign the part that they are not telling you about is, ironically, the only part of a computer that they make... the OS.
Even "the Wow Starts Now" was at least about a Microsoft product.
As someone already mentioned, Apple was putting sole emphasis on OS in their ads, completely ignoring hardware (which they are making and selling as well).
It is a nature of every ad campaign to focus on positive points. You don't waste millions of dollars to inform your buyers that your product is not as good as competitor's one.
And it may never.
I'm not - now that I have netflix and this thing called the Internet I hardly ever buy DVDs or BR.
VHS to DVD was a quantum leap. Totally different format (what, you can't record?!?!) and mindset. It took years just to overcome that, but it's happened. BR is just a fancier DVD - and that's how many people view it. If anything, you would think it's adoption rate would be faster.
I think BR has a much tougher fight ahead of it, esp. with things like Hulu, Netflix and heck even Redbox (who doesn't like free movie rentals - Redbox codes are all over the Internet). That and it's inane pricing. Some, all - take your picks which factors are slowing it's adoption, but it's hardly a run away success when if you look at it, it should be since it's concepts are very familiar.
There wasn't the Internet nor downloading or streaming video in the VHS to DVD switch.
There is now.
Don't get me wrong, I have a BR player. But if Netflix had upped their charge for BR disks before I bought, I wouldn't bother now. I still may drop BR support from Netflix and I sure as heck am not going to be buying movies at $40 or even $30 a pop.
Sony and the studios are (still) their own worst enemy.
Yes, there is Internet - but it still is not up there for majority. I don't think it will be there while BR lasts, anyway.
It might be that BR will be the last HD delivery standard before Internet takes over, but I doubt that. People still like to own movies. Collect them. Give them as a present. Get them as a present.
What is New Zeland?
Are you serious or making fun of our sheep-infested-country friend?
As someone already mentioned, Apple was putting sole emphasis on OS in their ads, completely ignoring hardware (which they are making and selling as well).
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
Can't recall too many hardware related ads - aside those related to peripherals (camera, printer...). But I probably didn't see them all anyway. Will check on Youtube.
Microsoft some 25+ years ago decided to have hardware partners. Apple decided to be their own hardware partner. As I mentioned before, MS realises direct OS compare would not do them much good, so they decided to promote hardware that runs their software.
No, I didn't miss your point; I'm just not finding it strange. As I mentioned, both companies decided to advertise stronger points of their platforms, while ignoring weak points; in MS case, it is variety - and pricing - of hardware that runs their solutions. Other message they are delivering - intentionally or not - might be something in line of "We are not just one company; we are whole front of allies united behind same standards".
I don't see much wrong in that...
Can't recall too many hardware related ads - aside those related to peripherals (camera, printer...). But I probably didn't see them all anyway. Will check on Youtube.
Even those ads about the peripherals are really about how the OS can connect to them automatically.
Edit: From 2006, "Out of the Box" is about the simplified HW and SW when you setup and start up for the first time and "Accident" is about the MagSafe connector. Those are the only two I saw from a quick run through of the thumbnails from: http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/
Breed. Slowly. Take it in. Let it out.
(I can tell you are already feeling better)
So you switched from Windows 95 SE.
(You do know there were some other versions of Windows in the meantime, don't you? Just checking)
What you are saying, in the nutshell, is that you were not capable to learn how to use your system, and now whole world is guilty for your decision to waste money on imbecile-proof OS.
Pathetic...
(But keep breeding. Slowly...)
When you calm down and recover some manners, maybe we can talk as human beings. Up to you.
@nikon133
Thank you for the reality check. I would love to discuss this as intelligent human beings - unfortunately intelligence seems to be something you are lacking!
I was actually perfectly calm when I wrote that thanks. What's the point of posting 299 on site about Macs when you clearly just like to stir things up.
To answer your questions - yes I am aware of other versions of Windoze (did you actually read my post? Namely my wife uses a PC) I have had the misfortune of using 3.11, 95, 98, 2000, XP and Vista and none of them even compare to OS8 on the Mac!
I am more than capable of learning how to use a computer system along with other thing like how to spell (it's "breathe" not breed - just a heads up! What's the matter Vista not come with a spell checker?) Fingers crossed you never "Breed"! That's all the world needs - spawn of Nikon
Waste Money on the operating system? Last time I checked Leopard (which is a full version of the operating system) was still cheaper than the Home Basic version of Vista? (And at least my operating system works!)
iMovie is a video editing piece of software - so how would it help me compile the list of faults with the advert - typical PC user always looking for a difficult solution to an easy problem! Did you need to edit your registry to get Internet Explorer to work so you could post your messages?
I think you may be on the wrong site my friend - this is Appleinsider.com not ohmygodiamsojadedbyhowcackmywindowscomputerissoine edtorantaboutittomakemyselffeelbetter.com
You were stung as child weren't you or do you just get off on negative attention?
Did Mummy force feed you apples and now every time someone of something is apple related it sets off one of spasms?
Remember the Ballmer comment that 90% of content on all iPods was stolen?
touche!
So...it's just a coincidence you sound like this clown:
Tauron @ Dec 30th 2006 10:44PM
"HD DVD will win the format war. I already pre-ordered an HD-XA2 because I'm that positive about this particular format. I've seen a Blu-ray demonstrated at a local electronics store, and the criticism is accurate. Blu-ray doesn't look much better than an upconverted DVD. An HD broadcast via satellite looks better. I have not seen an HD DVD, but, the vast majority of the consumers are behind it, and they all confer that HD DVD looks better than a Blu-ray. Sorry SONY, but history repeats. (remember Beta?) The only thing is, $999.99 for this player won't help Toshiba. Another reason HD DVD will win this war is Toshiba's prices. All prior models are available for about $500 if you know where to look. But, eventually this model's price will drop too. Just like standard DVD players when they first came out."
I never said that.
Link the post where I say that in this thread or shutup and admit you are a lying rat.
Actually "Apple's Get a Mac" campaign did not just focus on OS X. There were plenty of ads that covered hardware, applications, services, stores etc.
The fact is that Apple's ads were advertising Apple products and the benefits of Apple products. My point, which you managed to miss, is that Microsoft appears to be advertising other people's products without even mentioning their own.
That is what happens when you have nothing to say for yourself: you just bash your competitor.
It is the same "strategy" the GOP uses.