but if they are then that means the other announcement is only bigger, only more groundbreaking. Apple WOULD NOT be hyping MW for the announcements these sites are saying.
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I agree. Anyone thinking all this hype is just to drum up interest in a PowerMac is quite mistaken. Jobs gets off on being a visionary, not a gearhead; he likes to show off things with the potential to change the way people use computers, and nothing we've heard about yet fits that description. I still think "one more thing" will be pretty cool.
Are you kidding me? I think you're the only one who likes the CRT that the iMacs have. I'd much rather have an LCD because it's easier on the eyes, more viewable area, and it takes up a lot less space. If Apple keeps the shitty CRT that they currently use (except for maybe the low end) it'll be a bigger flop than the Cube.</strong><hr></blockquote>
EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.
[quote]EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.<hr></blockquote>
Well, I guess you'll love the price cuts on the current iMacs come January 8.
EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the iMac had a decent CRT then I wouldn't be saying anything. The CRT it has is shit. I don't mind small screens either. My iBooks 12.1" is great. All I'm saying in a 15" LCD has more viewable area than a CRT the same size.
The CRT used in iMacs is good, but it's getting old. I have both a 233 MHz Bondi Blue iMac and a 500 MHz Snow iMac. The CRTs on both have shown no sign of wear, but I will agree that people are looking for more with the iMac.
If the CRT hung around in a sub $700 iMac, I would think it was a good thing. Apple needs to keep a CRT iMac around so people who cannot afford to spend more than $1000 on a computer don't have to be limited to Wintel offerings.
So while everyone can go around complaining about the current iMac and it's screen, I think people would be sad to see it go if it meant pushing the price of Macs back above $1000.
Fran, you have a point about the whole price thing that's why the low end should definately stay with the CRT.
The CRT is good in the fact that both on my old Rev C and on my dad's Rev D there's no signs of it decreasing in quality or anything, but for 2002 it's not a good CRT at all. Back in 1998 it was fine but having it now is a little rediculous I think. Would a flat CRT be much more expensive?
There was a good post by Amorph in a different thread about how the hype isn't about chip speed, like everyone here thinks. It's about digital hub and software-hardware integration, like iTunes-iPod.
We all know that Apple's biggest limitation right now is their price-performance. So that's what we want to change. But Apple is limited by others in that respect. When the G5 is ready, they'll release it as fast as they possibly can. But in the meantime, Jobs sees Apple's uniqueness in their ability to create a total hardware-software solution.
What we know is that there will be a beautiful new iMac at about 700-800 Mhz, faster PowerMacs maybe even with a dual 1Ghz, and perhaps even speed bumps to some laptops.
But is that all? It could be, but probably not.
My guess is that the iMac will do something special. The only thing I can think of is some type of digital hub connection with home entertainment devices. Here are some guesses:
2. It could have the ability to link to third-party entertainment appliances like stereo equipment or TVs.
3. It could be another iPod-like device that uses some iTunes-like software to integrate with the Mac. Example: an Apple digital camera or camcorder specially made to link with Apple software like iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD.
4. Rather than a portable Apple device, it could be some appliance-like Apple device, like a DVD player/recorder that works seamlessly with bundled Apple software on the iMac.
4. It could be iPhoto software designed to work with third-party cameras, rather than an Apple camera.
5. It may have something to do with the new MPEG-4 standard and QuickTime. A TiVO-like PVR that compresses better with MPEG-4?
Just some hypotheses. Any other possibilities along these lines?
you know what... it's more and more depressing to read the board... too much negativity... this is not good... and what's up with you Junkyard ? Apple is the only one in the industry to realize *the* Hype like this... maybe they will not deliver but... for now this is fun !
EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The vast majority would rather have bigger screens than smaller screens. That's just silly. You want more eyestrain or more productivity? The display is the single most important component of any Computer. I'm using a total piece of crap PC here, but I have a very good CRT on it. It's what you interact with most. More pixels mean less scrolling and smoother images, and bigger displays mean less squinting and better posture. A 17" Flat screen CRT or 15" LCD is the absolute minimum acceptable display.
JYD always goes with the popular vote. If it has become obvious that something positive is going to happen he will second the motion ( I found this out last January ) but, if things start sounding like the negative he panics and starts bad mouthing apple. Pretty strange huh?
Junkyard, focus for a second this stuff is coming from another web site not from Apple! MWSF hasn't happened yet!
Just like last year I think things are going to be looking up next monday. No, I don't have any special powers ( or drunk Apple employee friends ) I just watch things and colate the information. Be logical junky. Apple wouldn't be hyping this themselves if they had nothing. The resulting bad PR wouldn't go away for a long time ( long enough to be damaging ).
I don't think Steve wants another MW like the last one and hyping it when you know you have nothing is a sure way to make that happen. Here's to many new things on Monday ( what they are we will have to wait and see ).
PS. One more thing.......the digital something what ever it is won't be enough to match the hype ( and they have got to know this ) so there has to be some big product changes or I can hear the groans from the crowd already. You don't talk for two hours about one thing and a stale product line.
Mine too! Who has and uses a slot loading iMac at 1024x768 and believes the display is crappy?
Bigger doesn't do any good unless there is a HIGHER RESOLUTION. So I say again, why bother with a 1024x768 LCD (which is the current resolution for Apple's 15" LCD). I PREDICT: iMac's will have a widescreen, with something like 1280x768. Those of you who want bigger screens really mean you want higher resolution. The new iMac's need to have a higher resolution than today's (and I believe they will).</strong><hr></blockquote>
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<strong>Perhaps these rumors are true
(I personally don't think they are)
but if they are then that means the other announcement is only bigger, only more groundbreaking. Apple WOULD NOT be hyping MW for the announcements these sites are saying.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree. Anyone thinking all this hype is just to drum up interest in a PowerMac is quite mistaken. Jobs gets off on being a visionary, not a gearhead; he likes to show off things with the potential to change the way people use computers, and nothing we've heard about yet fits that description. I still think "one more thing" will be pretty cool.
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Are you kidding me? I think you're the only one who likes the CRT that the iMacs have. I'd much rather have an LCD because it's easier on the eyes, more viewable area, and it takes up a lot less space. If Apple keeps the shitty CRT that they currently use (except for maybe the low end) it'll be a bigger flop than the Cube.</strong><hr></blockquote>
EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.
Well, I guess you'll love the price cuts on the current iMacs come January 8.
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EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the iMac had a decent CRT then I wouldn't be saying anything. The CRT it has is shit. I don't mind small screens either. My iBooks 12.1" is great. All I'm saying in a 15" LCD has more viewable area than a CRT the same size.
OS X for a brand of Intel machine.
Merger with someone, e.g. Disney (not likely) but someone of interest.
A radical new device (heaven knows)
The iMac, GhZ G4, etc does not cut it, unless it is a G5 with high speed, e.g. 1.5 GhZ.
Something we have not considered.
My 2 cents,
Dr. L
If the CRT hung around in a sub $700 iMac, I would think it was a good thing. Apple needs to keep a CRT iMac around so people who cannot afford to spend more than $1000 on a computer don't have to be limited to Wintel offerings.
So while everyone can go around complaining about the current iMac and it's screen, I think people would be sad to see it go if it meant pushing the price of Macs back above $1000.
The CRT is good in the fact that both on my old Rev C and on my dad's Rev D there's no signs of it decreasing in quality or anything, but for 2002 it's not a good CRT at all. Back in 1998 it was fine but having it now is a little rediculous I think. Would a flat CRT be much more expensive?
We all know that Apple's biggest limitation right now is their price-performance. So that's what we want to change. But Apple is limited by others in that respect. When the G5 is ready, they'll release it as fast as they possibly can. But in the meantime, Jobs sees Apple's uniqueness in their ability to create a total hardware-software solution.
What we know is that there will be a beautiful new iMac at about 700-800 Mhz, faster PowerMacs maybe even with a dual 1Ghz, and perhaps even speed bumps to some laptops.
But is that all? It could be, but probably not.
My guess is that the iMac will do something special. The only thing I can think of is some type of digital hub connection with home entertainment devices. Here are some guesses:
1. It could have some of the features of <a href="http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/mx/index.shtml"; target="_blank">that Sony Vaio MX</a> we were talking about a few weeks ago.
2. It could have the ability to link to third-party entertainment appliances like stereo equipment or TVs.
3. It could be another iPod-like device that uses some iTunes-like software to integrate with the Mac. Example: an Apple digital camera or camcorder specially made to link with Apple software like iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD.
4. Rather than a portable Apple device, it could be some appliance-like Apple device, like a DVD player/recorder that works seamlessly with bundled Apple software on the iMac.
4. It could be iPhoto software designed to work with third-party cameras, rather than an Apple camera.
5. It may have something to do with the new MPEG-4 standard and QuickTime. A TiVO-like PVR that compresses better with MPEG-4?
Just some hypotheses. Any other possibilities along these lines?
<strong>For once, I truly agree with applenut
(other random thought: what if the macminute/thinksecret source was canadian? then that'd be good pricing)</strong><hr></blockquote>
What if it was Australian -- the Aus $ is about 51 cents US !
Michael
<strong>Merger with someone, e.g. Disney (not likely) but someone of interest.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If apple merged with disney, wouldnt that be a conflict of intrest with steve and pixar?
Also, I dont see apple merging with anyone, steve has too big of an ego and would not want to share his power....
partnerships on the otherhand... (ie sony, that would be cool)
-Paul
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: jeromba ]</p>
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EVeryone stop NOT listening. I like my iMacS' screens the way they are TOO. I'd like SMALLER screens, TOO! Quit acting like everybody wants bigger screens. Bigger screens are a pain in the ass to find desk/counter space for. And they are usually pretty heavy for some people, too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The vast majority would rather have bigger screens than smaller screens. That's just silly. You want more eyestrain or more productivity? The display is the single most important component of any Computer. I'm using a total piece of crap PC here, but I have a very good CRT on it. It's what you interact with most. More pixels mean less scrolling and smoother images, and bigger displays mean less squinting and better posture. A 17" Flat screen CRT or 15" LCD is the absolute minimum acceptable display.
<strong>WTF? The CRT in the iMacs are just fine, unless you use a res. higher than 800x600.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Exactly.
MacOS X needs at least 1024x768!!
Amorya
<strong>WTF? The CRT in the iMacs are just fine, unless you use a res. higher than 800x600.</strong><hr></blockquote>
mine is fine for 1024x768.... Or maybe im just used to it...
-Paul
Junkyard, focus for a second this stuff is coming from another web site not from Apple! MWSF hasn't happened yet!
Just like last year I think things are going to be looking up next monday. No, I don't have any special powers ( or drunk Apple employee friends ) I just watch things and colate the information. Be logical junky. Apple wouldn't be hyping this themselves if they had nothing. The resulting bad PR wouldn't go away for a long time ( long enough to be damaging ).
I don't think Steve wants another MW like the last one and hyping it when you know you have nothing is a sure way to make that happen. Here's to many new things on Monday ( what they are we will have to wait and see ).
PS. One more thing.......the digital something what ever it is won't be enough to match the hype ( and they have got to know this ) so there has to be some big product changes or I can hear the groans from the crowd already. You don't talk for two hours about one thing and a stale product line.
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: jimmac ]</p>
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Mine too! Who has and uses a slot loading iMac at 1024x768 and believes the display is crappy?
Bigger doesn't do any good unless there is a HIGHER RESOLUTION. So I say again, why bother with a 1024x768 LCD (which is the current resolution for Apple's 15" LCD). I PREDICT: iMac's will have a widescreen, with something like 1280x768. Those of you who want bigger screens really mean you want higher resolution. The new iMac's need to have a higher resolution than today's (and I believe they will).</strong><hr></blockquote>
why bother?
1.) bigger viewing area. 13.8 inch is a joke.
2.) brighter display
3.) sharper display
4.) better contrast ratio
5.) no flicker/easier on the eyes
6.) smaller footprint