MMS is not for a "different era". There are millions of phones that use it and have used it for much longer than Apple even thought about putting out an iPod.
Not everyone has a smart phone and that will be the case for years to come.
Prior to 3.0 we had to email one YES 1 photo at a time. In my family there are two smart phones that have email out of 5 kids (and I'm 45).
Get off your fricking high horse and realize this has been missing for no reason other than AT&T & Apple's making AT&T'S network even worse. Now (if rumors are correct) you are stuck with AT&T for years.
Enjoy the new feature which is 15 years old and no multi-tasking operating system.
I'm out of my contract next July and can't wait to embrace Android. Yes, they only have 10,000 apps but they aren't all FLASH LIGHTS AND FART APPS.
You are SeaHawkFan, aren’t you?
PS: The first commercial MMS launched worldwide was in March 2002 by Telenor and Apple launched the first iPod on October 23, 2001. Now go back at least a couple years for 'Apple even [thinking] about putting out an iPod."
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Originally Posted by UltimateKylie
MMS did not exist in the last millenium. The first MMS message was sent in 2002. So yes its extremely relavent for the majority of users who want to send and receive pictures on their devices, especially if you wish to send them to someone whom you only have the phone number for. MMS is basically a multimedia SMS and will exist as long as we find SMS useful.
How is that iphone displaying the battery percentage?
Thanks
It?s a setting on the 3GS under Settings » General »*Usage. It?s a HWW change so the otehr models don?t get it. I?m not sure if the 3G Touch has it or not.
...can be found both QuickOffice and Docs2Go both of which enable the editing of Microsoft files used for word processing and spreadsheets, I couldn't decide which one to get so got both.
Oh, and MMS is totally from a different era. And no, an era is not an eon as one commenter seemed to misconstrue, eras last until a groundbreaking achievement changes the game. It is like when the iron age first started I'm sure many people still only smelted bronze. Sure, many people haven't upgraded to smart phones, but it clearly is the way of the future and MMS will only be useful for a max of 5 years. Oh, and as other users have pointed out I've been able to access other peoples MMS messages from safari the whole time and there are ways to have an email ported to MMS for other phones.
So what is the groundbreaking achievement that is going to replace MMS? It can't be email, that has been around for 30 something years now
...can be found both QuickOffice and Docs2Go both of which enable the editing of Microsoft files used for word processing and spreadsheets, I couldn't decide which one to get so got both.
I was reading through this and hoping that SOMEONE would mention that out of 70,000 apps, there are thousands of quality apps that are useful for this "pocket computer", and those are two excellent examples.
I have read so many forums that dog the iPhone for "not having what the antiquated Palm OS has had for a million years".
The two apps you mention are excellent at what they do, and are ON THE IPHONE, so I ask that the people who keep on saying that you can't edit documents on the iPhone SHUT UP!
why are people suggesting MMS is dying? The reason AT&T has been so slow to roll out MMS is because MMS usage will go up dramatically when it's enabled on the iPhone.
eMail is fine for many things, but for quick messaging, it's not as convenient as the iChat style messaging on the iPhone.
Suggeting MMS is dead makes no more sense than suggesting the iPhone isn't either a pocket computer or a smart phone.
Before iPhone, I usually didn't even know where my cell phone was, now I don't go anywhere without it. And for quite a few things, including some custom apps we've built for our business, it's easier and more convenient than sitting down at a desktop computer or pulling out a notebook computer. For other things those are the right choices because of the larger screen size.
You are trying to exit gracefully... I WON'T LET YOU.
MMS first launched in 2002, became pravalent on networks in 2003. iPhone is released in 2007 only 4 years later and your gonna tell me its a different era? When the very fact of the invention of MMS let SonyEricsson to release the first phone with a colour screen. Without the progression that MMS has lead there would be now iPhone.
The fact is millions of MMS are sent every day. You honestly expect MMS to have less a life span than Floppy Disks or CD-ROMS? Sure you may have moved on but you know those millions of phones that Nokia sells may or may not have email but they sure all do have MMS.
MMS allows me to not worry about the size of your screen or what codecs your phone supports with email. MMS is resized/recoded on the fly on the network based on the device the network sees you using. Email existed before MMS as did the abiltiy to receive email on a phone. To suggest is era is over is to suggest it should have never been invented and I doubt AT&T and other carriers that have raked billions in on MMS agree with you.
You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.
+1
MMS is not worth the price & the restrictions. How many people actually subscribe to that as a "value-add" service? Maybe if it was part of the base plan for everyone at no additional cost (except usage). I doubt it. Service providers still expect people to pay for ringtones and wallpapers ffs.
Apple prefers to keep people in a little box that says you can have this this year and next year (if you complain enough) we'll give you this.
Leaving the rest of your posts aside, I have to agree with this line. Lack of data sharing between applications, lack of copy & paste (prior to 3.0) are just unbelievable. You would think Apple could take a leaf of out Android's ContentProviders and ContentResolvers to implement secure data sharing. At some point in time, they will have to put in malware protection, I don't see the fun in postponing eventuality.
You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.
You need to expand your thinking to across the borders of the USA
I travelled some developing countries last summer. We could not understand one another while having chatted with some telco representatives. They do call EDGE "3G" and can't believe there's something better. Formally, EDGE is indeed 3G, though...
Uploading photo's to social sites e.g. FaceBook with notifications sent out to all of your friend's/relatives where they can easily comment which is immediately shared with everyone else in your network of friends/relatives no matter where they are on earth.
Get with the times man, email and MMS are going the way of your grandparents mailing letters.
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Originally Posted by jfanning
So what is the groundbreaking achievement that is going to replace MMS? It can't be email, that has been around for 30 something years now
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.
Define smartphone
I think my iPhone is as much of a computer as any computer, but that's just me
Iso I ask that the people who keep on saying that you can't edit documents on the iPhone SHUT UP!
/frustration
:-)
Complaining is a very human behaviour. By talking other things down, oneself suddenly feels more worhty.
There is nothing wrong with criticism but any judgement almost always implies some self-judgement. By saying 'Palm had X, and the iPhone does not have X' one implies that one knows that the iPhone does not have X, which is a pretty dangerous if not downright stupid comment given that there are more than 70000 apps around.
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MMS is not for a "different era". There are millions of phones that use it and have used it for much longer than Apple even thought about putting out an iPod.
Not everyone has a smart phone and that will be the case for years to come.
Prior to 3.0 we had to email one YES 1 photo at a time. In my family there are two smart phones that have email out of 5 kids (and I'm 45).
Get off your fricking high horse and realize this has been missing for no reason other than AT&T & Apple's making AT&T'S network even worse. Now (if rumors are correct) you are stuck with AT&T for years.
Enjoy the new feature which is 15 years old and no multi-tasking operating system.
I'm out of my contract next July and can't wait to embrace Android. Yes, they only have 10,000 apps but they aren't all FLASH LIGHTS AND FART APPS.
You are SeaHawkFan, aren’t you?
PS: The first commercial MMS launched worldwide was in March 2002 by Telenor and Apple launched the first iPod on October 23, 2001. Now go back at least a couple years for 'Apple even [thinking] about putting out an iPod."
MMS did not exist in the last millenium. The first MMS message was sent in 2002. So yes its extremely relavent for the majority of users who want to send and receive pictures on their devices, especially if you wish to send them to someone whom you only have the phone number for. MMS is basically a multimedia SMS and will exist as long as we find SMS useful.
Era does not equate to a different millennium.
How is that iphone displaying the battery percentage?
Thanks
It?s a setting on the 3GS under Settings » General »*Usage. It?s a HWW change so the otehr models don?t get it. I?m not sure if the 3G Touch has it or not.
Which all points me away from Apple.
What can we do to point you away from AppleInsider?
When I delete an email on my work phone it delete's from my entire email account so I don't have anthing to synch when I get back to work.
same thing happens for me with iPhone - not using Moble me or exchange server. Just standard IMAP mail server running on our corporate XServe.
Oh, and MMS is totally from a different era. And no, an era is not an eon as one commenter seemed to misconstrue, eras last until a groundbreaking achievement changes the game. It is like when the iron age first started I'm sure many people still only smelted bronze. Sure, many people haven't upgraded to smart phones, but it clearly is the way of the future and MMS will only be useful for a max of 5 years. Oh, and as other users have pointed out I've been able to access other peoples MMS messages from safari the whole time and there are ways to have an email ported to MMS for other phones.
So what is the groundbreaking achievement that is going to replace MMS? It can't be email, that has been around for 30 something years now
...can be found both QuickOffice and Docs2Go both of which enable the editing of Microsoft files used for word processing and spreadsheets, I couldn't decide which one to get so got both.
I was reading through this and hoping that SOMEONE would mention that out of 70,000 apps, there are thousands of quality apps that are useful for this "pocket computer", and those are two excellent examples.
I have read so many forums that dog the iPhone for "not having what the antiquated Palm OS has had for a million years".
The two apps you mention are excellent at what they do, and are ON THE IPHONE, so I ask that the people who keep on saying that you can't edit documents on the iPhone SHUT UP!
/frustration
:-)
eMail is fine for many things, but for quick messaging, it's not as convenient as the iChat style messaging on the iPhone.
Suggeting MMS is dead makes no more sense than suggesting the iPhone isn't either a pocket computer or a smart phone.
Before iPhone, I usually didn't even know where my cell phone was, now I don't go anywhere without it. And for quite a few things, including some custom apps we've built for our business, it's easier and more convenient than sitting down at a desktop computer or pulling out a notebook computer. For other things those are the right choices because of the larger screen size.
Era does not equate to a different millennium.
You are trying to exit gracefully... I WON'T LET YOU.
MMS first launched in 2002, became pravalent on networks in 2003. iPhone is released in 2007 only 4 years later and your gonna tell me its a different era? When the very fact of the invention of MMS let SonyEricsson to release the first phone with a colour screen. Without the progression that MMS has lead there would be now iPhone.
The fact is millions of MMS are sent every day. You honestly expect MMS to have less a life span than Floppy Disks or CD-ROMS? Sure you may have moved on but you know those millions of phones that Nokia sells may or may not have email but they sure all do have MMS.
MMS allows me to not worry about the size of your screen or what codecs your phone supports with email. MMS is resized/recoded on the fly on the network based on the device the network sees you using. Email existed before MMS as did the abiltiy to receive email on a phone. To suggest is era is over is to suggest it should have never been invented and I doubt AT&T and other carriers that have raked billions in on MMS agree with you.
You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.
+1
MMS is not worth the price & the restrictions. How many people actually subscribe to that as a "value-add" service? Maybe if it was part of the base plan for everyone at no additional cost (except usage). I doubt it. Service providers still expect people to pay for ringtones and wallpapers ffs.
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Apple prefers to keep people in a little box that says you can have this this year and next year (if you complain enough) we'll give you this.
Leaving the rest of your posts aside, I have to agree with this line. Lack of data sharing between applications, lack of copy & paste (prior to 3.0) are just unbelievable. You would think Apple could take a leaf of out Android's ContentProviders and ContentResolvers to implement secure data sharing. At some point in time, they will have to put in malware protection, I don't see the fun in postponing eventuality.
For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.
MMS was for a different era.
maybe the era u are still in . . . try shooting a lic plate # and MMS to police . . . resulted in DUI arrest!
You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.
You need to expand your thinking to across the borders of the USA
I travelled some developing countries last summer. We could not understand one another while having chatted with some telco representatives. They do call EDGE "3G" and can't believe there's something better. Formally, EDGE is indeed 3G, though...
Get with the times man, email and MMS are going the way of your grandparents mailing letters.
So what is the groundbreaking achievement that is going to replace MMS? It can't be email, that has been around for 30 something years now
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.
Define smartphone
I think my iPhone is as much of a computer as any computer, but that's just me
I'm out of my contract next July and can't wait to embrace Android. Yes, they only have 10,000 apps but they aren't all FLASH LIGHTS AND FART APPS.
Do you have evidence to support your implication that the proportion of flashlight and fart apps is smaller on Android?
Iso I ask that the people who keep on saying that you can't edit documents on the iPhone SHUT UP!
/frustration
:-)
Complaining is a very human behaviour. By talking other things down, oneself suddenly feels more worhty.
There is nothing wrong with criticism but any judgement almost always implies some self-judgement. By saying 'Palm had X, and the iPhone does not have X' one implies that one knows that the iPhone does not have X, which is a pretty dangerous if not downright stupid comment given that there are more than 70000 apps around.