Why would you even be thinking that they would add new features to non major releases?
It's a matter of degree. In previous 'maintenance' releases Apple has changed certain functionality and added minor features along the way. Not everything has to wait for the next major point release.
Sorry, but it's not broke just because you liked the previous version better. I miss how stuff used to get arranged. But the new version has quite a bit to like. This is the future. Be flexible
Nobody said it was broke [sic] just because they liked the previous version better. It's broken because it (a) removes features from the previous version; (b) breaks Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. Whether it's a bug or broken by design is a question of judgment, but it is objectively true that it is broken.
Nobody said it was broke [sic] just because they liked the previous version better. It's broken because it (a) removes features from the previous version; (b) breaks Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. Whether it's a bug or broken by design is a question of judgment, but it is objectively true that it is broken.
What features are missing? What is non-subjectively broke about it?
When they changed Exposé late in SL development I was ecstatic that it finally worked the way I always wanted it to. I was a heavy Exposé user before, but now? Except for anti-aliasing there is nothing I can think to change or add to it.
What features are missing? What is non-subjectively broke about it?
When they changed Exposé late in SL development I was ecstatic that it finally worked the way I always wanted it to. I was a heavy Exposé user before, but now… Except for anti-aliasing there is nothing I can think to change or add to it.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
I never use the Hide app option so I would never have come across that feature, but I agree that it?s bad design. Either the whole app should be hidden from Exposé or all windows should show up in Exposé. This seems like something that should be submitted to Apple. Thanks for the clear example.
For the last couple of years the Mail rules window will go off the screen when there are more than 25 rules entries... ie filter to a mail box for 25+ mail sources.
The rules window will extend off the bottom of the screen removing the control buttons from view and mouse cursor access. Clicking the window size buttons resizes the window level below the rules windows so is no help.
I have confirmed this problem several times with Apple phone support techs. Each time they are first amazed at the existence of the problem, second.. promise to put in a trouble report to the correct group. So far their efforts and a ton of emails reporting the problem have been sent to future congress people... apparently they can not read.
Any one else want to try this? Create a rule... enter 25 or more conditions. Then see if the window buttons are visible.
I never use the Hide app option so I would never have come across that feature, but I agree that it’s bad design. Either the whole app should be hidden from Exposé or all windows should show up in Exposé. This seems like something that should be submitted to Apple. Thanks for the clear example.
Submitted it pre-10.6.1... Here's hoping for a fix in 10.6.2.
Besides, that's minor stuff. If you want a really egregious, unforgivable bug in Snow Leopard, Calculator has got it.
First on my list of piss-offs is that the caret (Shift+6) doesn't do exponentiation like you'd expect. In fact, Shift+6 does the exact opposite; it takes the nth root of something.
Second, it can't parse mathematical expressions correctly. Try calculating 5^2*5^2. (The caret here indicates exponentiation.) On a real scientific calculator (and on Calculator in 10.4 and 10.5), it's parsed as "pow(5,2)*pow(5,2)" and the answer is 625. In Snow Leopard, it's parsed as "pow(pow(5,2)*5,2)" and the answer is 15625.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Climbing up the scale of stupidity, calculator can't even do simple arithmetic anymore. Open the "Paper Tape" window and then calculate 90-2.2. If you have 15-digits of accuracy enabled (which is the default setting), then you'll be quite surprised to learn that the answer is actually 87.799999999999997.
And a final glitch. Open up calculator about 20 times. You'll find that some of those times will have a bright "LCD" and some of those times it will have a dark "LCD".
There's a bug in Snow Leopard that prevents mounting volumes via AFP on Netware and OES Linux and when attempting to mount OS 9 shares under OS X. The bug was present in earlier builds of Snow Leopard, but wasn't fixed in the final release.
A friend has a cluster of old macs running OS 9 for some work and can no longer get to them from OS X after I upgraded his system to Snow Leopard.
I'll repeat my question from Monday. Did they fix (read: "bring back the old") Exposé yet?
Exposé works fine the way it is. I would have to say most think it is an improvement. It is a change though that you have to give a little time to adapt to.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
Yes, I understand why this might look like a bug but, frankly, I doubt I would have ever stumbled across this without having read your post.
OTOH, I'm not sure the behavior is wrong and I say this because OS X, unlike Windows, behaves in a "document-centric" mode instead of "application-centric" mode. In your example, you chose to minimize (functionally that means place) the first document into the Dock. For the second document, you chose to simply hide it which is different. When invoking Expose, it shows the non-hidden docs which would includes the first TextEdit file you created but not the second. That's document-centric behavior playing out even though it might seem a bit odd.
Exposé works fine the way it is. I would have to say most think it is an improvement. It is a change though that you have to give a little time to adapt to.
Dave
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
There's a bug in Snow Leopard that prevents mounting volumes via AFP on Netware and OES Linux and when attempting to mount OS 9 shares under OS X. The bug was present in earlier builds of Snow Leopard, but wasn't fixed in the final release.
A friend has a cluster of old macs running OS 9 for some work and can no longer get to them from OS X after I upgraded his system to Snow Leopard.
To say he's pissed would be an understatement.
I would probably just use FTP until it's resolved.
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
You assume you are the majority in the way that you do things. I didn't even notice a functional difference in Expose. I set Expose to open with my mouse button 4. I don't use my keyboard at all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bueller_007
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
When I repeated your test under Leopard 10.5.8, I see neither. Only when they were not minimized or hidden did Expose show either.
Submitted it pre-10.6.1... Here's hoping for a fix in 10.6.2.
Besides, that's minor stuff. If you want a really egregious, unforgivable bug in Snow Leopard, Calculator has got it.
First on my list of piss-offs is that the caret (Shift+6) doesn't do exponentiation like you'd expect. In fact, Shift+6 does the exact opposite; it takes the nth root of something.
Second, it can't parse mathematical expressions correctly. Try calculating 5^2*5^2. (The caret here indicates exponentiation.) On a real scientific calculator (and on Calculator in 10.4 and 10.5), it's parsed as "pow(5,2)*pow(5,2)" and the answer is 625. In Snow Leopard, it's parsed as "pow(pow(5,2)*5,2)" and the answer is 15625.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Climbing up the scale of stupidity, calculator can't even do simple arithmetic anymore. Open the "Paper Tape" window and then calculate 90-2.2. If you have 15-digits of accuracy enabled (which is the default setting), then you'll be quite surprised to learn that the answer is actually 87.799999999999997.
And a final glitch. Open up calculator about 20 times. You'll find that some of those times will have a bright "LCD" and some of those times it will have a dark "LCD".
This is actually pretty pathetic considering the history of calculators on PCs in general, you would think that they would learn. It is even worst to see regressions like the above. At least some of these look like an attempt to use floating point which is likely a mistake.
Considering the modern hardware that these calculators run on, the expectation would be for the use of a BCD or other sound numercal method. It isn't askng to much for 16 to 20 digits of decimal accuracy these days. Even with BCD a modern PC would still be plenty interactive.
Beside didn't Next Step supply a library for high precision math. Also the parsing errors are a bit of a joke too. Maybe Apple ought to consider contracting the calculator code out to HP or TI.
I do hope you report all the errors you are finding. Maybe ship off an E-Mail to Steve @ Apple. He would certainly be able to put a little presure on the team working on this software. More so he could set new standards that might assure quality results.
That may be why I haven't found anything to complain about yet. To much time spent with ones hands welded to the keyboard results in fatique. At least for me it does. Plus I've have co-workers that have gone through Carpel Tunnel surgery and I'd like to avoid that
As to keyboard configuration I would agree with you there. One should be able to do so if one wanted to. I actually thought that elwas possible, but I'm away from my MBP right now so I could be wrong. Honestly though Apples mouse centric approach likely serves more people well than the alternatives.
In any event a big update to SL isn't far away maybe this will be addressed soon. The reality is they can't make everyone happy.
Dave
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
You assume you are the majority in the way that you do things. I didn't even notice a functional difference in Expose. I set Expose to open with my mouse button 4. I don't use my keyboard at all.
When I repeated your test under Leopard 10.5.8, I see neither. Only when they were not minimized or hidden did Expose show either.
Yes. That's the proper behaviour. It's NOT the way the Snow Leopard acts.
Comments
Why would you even be thinking that they would add new features to non major releases?
It's a matter of degree. In previous 'maintenance' releases Apple has changed certain functionality and added minor features along the way. Not everything has to wait for the next major point release.
Sorry, but it's not broke just because you liked the previous version better. I miss how stuff used to get arranged. But the new version has quite a bit to like. This is the future. Be flexible
Nobody said it was broke [sic] just because they liked the previous version better. It's broken because it (a) removes features from the previous version; (b) breaks Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. Whether it's a bug or broken by design is a question of judgment, but it is objectively true that it is broken.
Nobody said it was broke [sic] just because they liked the previous version better. It's broken because it (a) removes features from the previous version; (b) breaks Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. Whether it's a bug or broken by design is a question of judgment, but it is objectively true that it is broken.
What features are missing? What is non-subjectively broke about it?
When they changed Exposé late in SL development I was ecstatic that it finally worked the way I always wanted it to. I was a heavy Exposé user before, but now? Except for anti-aliasing there is nothing I can think to change or add to it.
What features are missing? What is non-subjectively broke about it?
When they changed Exposé late in SL development I was ecstatic that it finally worked the way I always wanted it to. I was a heavy Exposé user before, but now… Except for anti-aliasing there is nothing I can think to change or add to it.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
I never use the Hide app option so I would never have come across that feature, but I agree that it?s bad design. Either the whole app should be hidden from Exposé or all windows should show up in Exposé. This seems like something that should be submitted to Apple. Thanks for the clear example.
The rules window will extend off the bottom of the screen removing the control buttons from view and mouse cursor access. Clicking the window size buttons resizes the window level below the rules windows so is no help.
I have confirmed this problem several times with Apple phone support techs. Each time they are first amazed at the existence of the problem, second.. promise to put in a trouble report to the correct group. So far their efforts and a ton of emails reporting the problem have been sent to future congress people... apparently they can not read.
Any one else want to try this? Create a rule... enter 25 or more conditions. Then see if the window buttons are visible.
Jim
I never use the Hide app option so I would never have come across that feature, but I agree that it’s bad design. Either the whole app should be hidden from Exposé or all windows should show up in Exposé. This seems like something that should be submitted to Apple. Thanks for the clear example.
Submitted it pre-10.6.1... Here's hoping for a fix in 10.6.2.
Besides, that's minor stuff. If you want a really egregious, unforgivable bug in Snow Leopard, Calculator has got it.
First on my list of piss-offs is that the caret (Shift+6) doesn't do exponentiation like you'd expect. In fact, Shift+6 does the exact opposite; it takes the nth root of something.
Second, it can't parse mathematical expressions correctly. Try calculating 5^2*5^2. (The caret here indicates exponentiation.) On a real scientific calculator (and on Calculator in 10.4 and 10.5), it's parsed as "pow(5,2)*pow(5,2)" and the answer is 625. In Snow Leopard, it's parsed as "pow(pow(5,2)*5,2)" and the answer is 15625.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Climbing up the scale of stupidity, calculator can't even do simple arithmetic anymore. Open the "Paper Tape" window and then calculate 90-2.2. If you have 15-digits of accuracy enabled (which is the default setting), then you'll be quite surprised to learn that the answer is actually 87.799999999999997.
And a final glitch. Open up calculator about 20 times. You'll find that some of those times will have a bright "LCD" and some of those times it will have a dark "LCD".
Sounds like something Adobe would need to address, not Apple. I haven't had any problem with it under SL though. Have you checked the Adobe forums?
This is a known issue that Apple has acknowledged they own. I was told a fix was being qualified. Hopefully that means it is part of .2!
A friend has a cluster of old macs running OS 9 for some work and can no longer get to them from OS X after I upgraded his system to Snow Leopard.
To say he's pissed would be an understatement.
I'll repeat my question from Monday. Did they fix (read: "bring back the old") Exposé yet?
Exposé works fine the way it is. I would have to say most think it is an improvement. It is a change though that you have to give a little time to adapt to.
Dave
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing.
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
Yes, I understand why this might look like a bug but, frankly, I doubt I would have ever stumbled across this without having read your post.
OTOH, I'm not sure the behavior is wrong and I say this because OS X, unlike Windows, behaves in a "document-centric" mode instead of "application-centric" mode. In your example, you chose to minimize (functionally that means place) the first document into the Dock. For the second document, you chose to simply hide it which is different. When invoking Expose, it shows the non-hidden docs which would includes the first TextEdit file you created but not the second. That's document-centric behavior playing out even though it might seem a bit odd.
Has Apple addressed the crashing of Adobe CS4 yet?
CS4 is not crashing for me. Not even once and I'm a heavy user of Photoshop.
Exposé works fine the way it is. I would have to say most think it is an improvement. It is a change though that you have to give a little time to adapt to.
Dave
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
There's a bug in Snow Leopard that prevents mounting volumes via AFP on Netware and OES Linux and when attempting to mount OS 9 shares under OS X. The bug was present in earlier builds of Snow Leopard, but wasn't fixed in the final release.
A friend has a cluster of old macs running OS 9 for some work and can no longer get to them from OS X after I upgraded his system to Snow Leopard.
To say he's pissed would be an understatement.
I would probably just use FTP until it's resolved.
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
You assume you are the majority in the way that you do things. I didn't even notice a functional difference in Expose. I set Expose to open with my mouse button 4. I don't use my keyboard at all.
I'll give you one clearly, objectively broken thing
Open TextEdit. Write "minimized" in the window, and then minimize it (with the yellow button). Open a new window. Write "Not minimized" in that window. Then use Command-H to hide TextEdit. Then view "All Windows" in Expose. Notice how the MINIMIZED window shows up in Expose, but the NOT MINIMIZED window does not show up in Expose.
That behaviour makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. When I hide an application, I don't want to see any of its windows in Expose. And it's especially counterintuitive to display a minimized window, but not a maximized window. I minimized the one that I'm least likely to use, in order to get it out of the way. Why on earth would I want to see that one but not the other one?
Other minor (subjective) complaints with the new Expose's All Windows: I wish that they wouldn't change the relative sizes of the windows, and I also liked the layout of Expose in Leopard better as well.
When I repeated your test under Leopard 10.5.8, I see neither. Only when they were not minimized or hidden did Expose show either.
Submitted it pre-10.6.1... Here's hoping for a fix in 10.6.2.
Besides, that's minor stuff. If you want a really egregious, unforgivable bug in Snow Leopard, Calculator has got it.
First on my list of piss-offs is that the caret (Shift+6) doesn't do exponentiation like you'd expect. In fact, Shift+6 does the exact opposite; it takes the nth root of something.
Second, it can't parse mathematical expressions correctly. Try calculating 5^2*5^2. (The caret here indicates exponentiation.) On a real scientific calculator (and on Calculator in 10.4 and 10.5), it's parsed as "pow(5,2)*pow(5,2)" and the answer is 625. In Snow Leopard, it's parsed as "pow(pow(5,2)*5,2)" and the answer is 15625.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Climbing up the scale of stupidity, calculator can't even do simple arithmetic anymore. Open the "Paper Tape" window and then calculate 90-2.2. If you have 15-digits of accuracy enabled (which is the default setting), then you'll be quite surprised to learn that the answer is actually 87.799999999999997.
And a final glitch. Open up calculator about 20 times. You'll find that some of those times will have a bright "LCD" and some of those times it will have a dark "LCD".
This is actually pretty pathetic considering the history of calculators on PCs in general, you would think that they would learn. It is even worst to see regressions like the above. At least some of these look like an attempt to use floating point which is likely a mistake.
Considering the modern hardware that these calculators run on, the expectation would be for the use of a BCD or other sound numercal method. It isn't askng to much for 16 to 20 digits of decimal accuracy these days. Even with BCD a modern PC would still be plenty interactive.
Beside didn't Next Step supply a library for high precision math. Also the parsing errors are a bit of a joke too. Maybe Apple ought to consider contracting the calculator code out to HP or TI.
I do hope you report all the errors you are finding. Maybe ship off an E-Mail to Steve @ Apple. He would certainly be able to put a little presure on the team working on this software. More so he could set new standards that might assure quality results.
Dave
As to keyboard configuration I would agree with you there. One should be able to do so if one wanted to. I actually thought that elwas possible, but I'm away from my MBP right now so I could be wrong. Honestly though Apples mouse centric approach likely serves more people well than the alternatives.
In any event a big update to SL isn't far away maybe this will be addressed soon. The reality is they can't make everyone happy.
Dave
Actually, expose has a nasty regression. You used to be able to expose windows and then use TAB key to cycle through exposed windows. Now TAB key cycles through applications and their open windows. If you want to navigate through the exposed windows you have to reach for the arrow keys, but you still can't cycle through windows, you can go backward forward.
Now this is really bad on two fronts. You don't redefine what most frequently used keyboard shortcut does (TAB key). Also, if I have to leave the home row and reach for the arrow keys, I might as well go all the way and use the mouse. So, new expose makes keyboard useless (which is where it is most useful conceptually for switching windows). I would say the way it is currently, expose is completely useless to anyone that uses the keyboard (which should be almost everyone).
To really fix this mess, apple needs to allow customization of expose navigation keys. That way those of us used to VI can define h,j,k,l as keys to navigate through exposed windows instead of arrows and use TAB for cycling between exposed windows, and something else for application windows.
You assume you are the majority in the way that you do things. I didn't even notice a functional difference in Expose. I set Expose to open with my mouse button 4. I don't use my keyboard at all.
When I repeated your test under Leopard 10.5.8, I see neither. Only when they were not minimized or hidden did Expose show either.
Yes. That's the proper behaviour. It's NOT the way the Snow Leopard acts.