Just a quick question guys, the new 27' seems pretty good. but i'm debating between the \t 3.06GHz dual core or the i5 quad. if i dont do much video editing or finalcut stuff. would I see a noticeble difference? Same question with the lesser video card. I tried the old imac 2.66 dual core, and it seemed fine, i just dunno if dualcore will become obsolete soon, cuz gonna be a long term investment, i just dont want new programs to come up that runs poorly on a dual core
For Apple Pro Apps, the GPU is more important then the CPU. I was so busy focusing on the GPU on the new Mac's I didn't notice for some time the one with the best GPU was also a quad core!
That's my main beef with the iMac - you are stick with whatever GPU it ships with I really wish they would stick it on a daughtercard so it could be changed out (even if you had to take it to a service center).
None that come with a computer that is available retail, mostly on FireGL or Quadro, and good luck trying to find a DP display. Displayport has had years and its not gaining any traction. Even Apple's efforts haven't been able to jump start it. I'm sorry, but HDMI is the connector that's moving forward.
It's starting off at the high end, and will work its way down.
But Displayport is standard on all 5800 series cards from ATI, and I guess other ATI card vendors as well.
From Anands review of the new 5870:
Quote:
With the 5800 series, DisplayPort is getting a much-needed kick in the pants. DisplayPort (full size) is standard on all 5800 series cards – prior to this it has been rather absent on reference cards. Along with a DisplayPort, the 5870 reference card contains a dedicated HDMI port, and a pair of DVI ports.
The environment plays no part in my intense hatred of buying batteries for products that shouldn't need them. Wires are cheap, secure and reliable.
And yet for a keyboard and mouse, a PITA.
Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries Best invention ever. They don't shelf-discharge like traditional re-chargeables. I charge the ones in my old Apple BlueTooth keyboard maybe twice a year. I also use them with my photo gear - can leave them in my bag for months at a time and they will still have over 90% of their charge. In fact they come pre-charged and you can use them the day you buy them. If I have either forgotten to bring batteries or not brought enough charged ones, instead of buying more alkalines in a pinch, if available I just buy another four pack of eneloops since they come charged and I can re-charge them again and again.
They also make a universal USB charger that can charge my iPhone 3G about two and a half times. Costco has 'em for $10 cheaper. Unlike many of the iPhone specific chargers, this one will charge anything that uses USB for charging (like my *gag* work blackberry).
I'm not sure that Apple are going down the right road here with the increased disk sizes (1TB standard, 2TB upgrade). I guess that we should now expect to see a corresponding upgrade to Time Capsule to move to a 4TB to allow backups. 1TB or 2TB on board represents a huge amount of data that I guess most people won't fill in a hurry but more importantly it encourages an 'all eggs in one basket' mentality that will be a huge problem if a) it falls over and has to be recovered or b) when you come to migrate. Surely as market innovators we should be expecting Apple to push for an affordable (to us!) lifetime off machine storage - such as cloud - with guarantees of privacy and security.
People complain when Apple doesn't have big enough drives available. Are you complaining that they're too big?
That would be a first.
Everyone should have a backup drive, no matter what the size of their main drive.
Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries Best invention ever. They don't shelf-discharge like traditional re-chargeables. I charge the ones in my old Apple BlueTooth keyboard maybe twice a year. I also use them with my photo gear - can leave them in my bag for months at a time and they will still have over 90% of their charge. In fact they come pre-charged and you can use them the day you buy them. If I have either forgotten to bring batteries or not brought enough charged ones, instead of buying more alkalines in a pinch, if available I just buy another four pack of eneloops since they come charged and I can re-charge them again and again.
They also make a universal USB charger that can charge my iPhone 3G about two and a half times. Costco has 'em for $10 cheaper. Unlike many of the iPhone specific chargers, this one will charge anything that uses USB for charging (like my *gag* work blackberry).
All lithium rechargeables' have very good shelf life. None self discharge appreciably. I've got some I haven't used for a year after a recharge, and they still have almost a full charge.
Business people tend to be high in the self control department and Apple is a consumer products company, catering to people with low self control/early computer users with little experience.
I've seen lots of tortured logic on these boards to try to make a bigger deal then just personal preference when it comes to displays - but this raises excrement to record heights. Thanks for the chuckle.
Get a screen protector like in the good 'ol CRT days or get a PC, but don't hold your breath waiting for a matte option on the desktop (personally I wish Apple would just do it to shut the @T%#%$ whiners up, but that doesn't work because then they complain about getting charged for having to compensate for their low-volume option)
I agree, everyone should own a time capsule - just to back up everything on the hard drive. They should be bigger than the hard drive so 4tb time capsule here we come lol
Not even close. B-R players will supplant DVD players. DVD players are as cheap as they can possibly get. I remember when they were as expensive as B-R is. I don't recommend people going out and buying $25 players, or even $50 ones, but they do exist.
We'll see B-R players drop to that level, and then what will be the purpose of DVD players? There won't be any.
One major advantage that BR-D has is that it is compatible with DVD. Once BR-D players drop below $150, many people will upgrade because they can still use it to play their DVDs, CDs, etc. If a person has a BR-D player, and his/her favorite TV show/movie comes out in both formats, which would he/she choose? 480p or 1080p? If the prices aren't too far apart, I'd bet the latter --but BR-D has to come down in price, especially in this economy, as people don't want to spend $25 per disc.
PPV and On-Demand have been around since BEFORE DVD, yet DVD eventually displaced VHS. People think that digital delivery services will wipe out BR-D are simply unaware of technology. For one thing, even a compressed 1080p BR-D rip is around 8Gb (up to 12Gb for long, three-hour films like Watchmen). How many 1080p films will regular people want to download?
As for VOD, many movie buyers want archives of their films, not just rentals. Like I noted earlier, PPV has been around for ages, and it never killed DVD.
I laugh when people compare BR-D to 8-track or Laser Disc when the latter two failed because most the industry didn't adopt it, whereas BR-D is what ALL manufacturers and movie studios are now backing.
One very interesting note --the PS3 Slim officially sold more units this past month than either the xBox 360 or the Wii. Since the PS3's initial launch, this is the first time that the console has ever been the top-seller for an entire month. BR-D is not as obscure as some posters here like to believe.
As for SD cards replacing BR-D for media distribution, some of you don't understand that BR-D as multimedia has nothing to fear from SD cards, which are meant for data storage.
. What people on here complain about is that to buy the EXACT same hardware, except the "case", but the actual components, usually cost much less when building a pc.
Actually, you would be quite wrong. When buying the exact same components, Apple is often cheaper and/or provides more features then the equivalent PC. This is old news ever since Apple switched it Intel and direct comparisons became quite easy.
What often happens is people cite crap (literally) hardware, like a $400 netbook, and then moan that the cheapest Apple notebook is $900. Well hell yes, Apple doesn't produce crap. If you want a basic experience, Apple isn't your brand - welcome to Windows (or Linux - name your poison) land.
A Dell or HP workstation configured with specs similar to my Mac Pro is almost $1K more. Apple puts out an incredible value for their hardware in the segments they compete in.
Apple just doesn't compete in all segments. Why should they? They siphon the cream off the top and leave the dregs to the PC vendors. They certainly don't cater to the lower end, no-margin market. Wahh....
I mean, all those netbook sales have been such a boon to Acer, Dell and HP's profits /sarcasm
If you wan't bottom of the barrel hardware, go get a PC. If you want a nice machine that is an excellent value - esp. if you factor in software and not just hardware, as well as the overall ownership experience then suck it up and save for a Mac. But all this whining for a cheap Mac is just pi**ing into the wind. Enjoy your shower.
The forum has a wonderful ignore function. Honestly, I don't understand why people tolerate things that annoy them and I really don't understand why they egg the said annoyances on \
One major advantage that BR-D has is that it is compatible with DVD. Once BR-D players drop below $150, many people will upgrade because they can still use it to play their DVDs, CDs, etc. If a person has a BR-D player, and his/her favorite TV show/movie comes out in both formats, which would he/she choose? 480p or 1080p? If the prices aren't too far apart, I'd bet the latter --but BR-D has to come down in price, especially in this economy, as people don't want to spend $25 per disc.
PPV and On-Demand have been around since BEFORE DVD, yet DVD eventually displaced VHS. People think that digital delivery services will wipe out BR-D are simply unaware of technology. For one thing, even a compressed 1080p BR-D rip is around 8Gb (up to 12Gb for long, three-hour films like Watchmen). How many 1080p films will regular people want to download?
As for VOD, many movie buyers want archives of their films, not just rentals. Like I noted earlier, PPV has been around for ages, and it never killed DVD.
I laugh when people compare BR-D to 8-track or Laser Disc when the latter two failed because most the industry didn't adopt it, whereas BR-D is what ALL manufacturers and movie studios are now backing.
One very interesting note --the PS3 Slim officially sold more units this past month than either the xBox 360 or the Wii. Since the PS3's initial launch, this is the first time that the console has ever been the top-seller for an entire month. BR-D is not as obscure as some posters here like to believe.
As for SD cards replacing BR-D for media distribution, some of you don't understand that BR-D as multimedia has nothing to fear from SD cards, which are meant for data storage.
It also requires at least a 10Mb/s connection to stream a B-R quality 1080p video in high quality mode.
Very few people have a connection faster than 3 Mb/s. Mine is 6, and i won't be able to do it.
I find it amusing that so many people here keep telling us how bad Apple's HD movies look, and how they won't rent or buy them, but then we have people saying that the junk that Netflix, which from my own experience with it shows me, is not better than Apple's, looks good enough.
It's going to take years for this to be good enough. People do care about video quality.
Are you certain about that? It looks to me like it has tilt.
Height adjustment would be a big plus though, swivel a plus too, but not as necessary as the height, with the IPS.
I should call it rotate. The Dell displays can rotate into portrait mode and it's very useful for design work. The swivel isn't so much for viewing angle but if you quickly need to show a work colleague something or in the case of the iMac avoid glare.
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Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon
They could have put the dirt cheap i5s in the 21 inchers. They would have walked out the stores.
Yeah, that would have been a better choice. In all honesty, I think bigger is not always better and I will simply never want a 27" display on my desk. I do want a quad core hooked up to my 22" display though so yet again, the only option is a £1900 tower.
At least they have a desktop quad-core consumer model though so it's a start and if you want a massive LED IPS screen, it's great value as someone else pointed out.
I should call it rotate. The Dell displays can rotate into portrait mode and it's very useful for design work. The swivel isn't so much for viewing angle but if you quickly need to show a work colleague something or in the case of the iMac avoid glare.
Yeah, that would have been a better choice. In all honesty, I think bigger is not always better and I will simply never want a 27" display on my desk. I do want a quad core hooked up to my 22" display though so yet again, the only option is a £1900 tower.
At least they have a desktop quad-core consumer model though so it's a start and if you want a massive LED IPS screen, it's great value as someone else pointed out.
Computers aren't monitors. I wouldn't compare this to a display. What would happen to the cooling?
I can't believe most of the posts have been whining about the lack of a BluRay drive. Just because the technology exists, doesn't mean a computer actually needs it. If you really want one, go buy an external drive and STFU. They have been around for years.
If the iMac had one, all of you would bitch and complain about the price increase over previous models, and then bitch about the high price of blank media, and bitch how slow it is to back up data.
How many of you actually crowd around the computer to watch a movie? My guess is NONE. You watch them on your big screen TV.
The iMac upgrades are a great improvement over the previous models. All models now have a fantastic display (the inferior 20" is finally gone). 4 GB RAM across the board, dedicated graphics on 3 out of the 4 models, big hard drives, SD card slot, wireless keyboard and a new kick-ass mouse all standard. They are a great upgrade from either an iMac G5 or early iMac Intel.
What's the point of an "all-in-one" like the imac if you have to buy an external drive?
I think tons of folks watch movies on their computers. I do. I don't even own a tv per se, just a 28" HD monitor from Dell.
In terms of price point, Sony has an all-in-one WITH BLU-RAY and WITH MULTI-TOUCH 1080p screen on the market for $1300. http://www.engadget.com/tag/vaiol
Next to it, Apple doesn't exactly look like the innovator with their current iMac.
It also requires at least a 10Mb/s connection to stream a B-R quality 1080p video in high quality mode.
Very few people have a connection faster than 3 Mb/s. Mine is 6, and i won't be able to do it.
Your wrong on this. In Europe and especially in the Netherlands 20Mb/s is the norm and very cheap per month ($30, and most of the time this includes unlimited calls). Several providers are offering 100Mb/s connections next year. (And as a side note, in Finland a 20Mb/s (or something) is required by law.)
So bandwidth isn't a problem at all, even for Blu-ray downloads.
What's the point of an "all-in-one" like the imac if you have to buy an external drive?
I think tons of folks watch movies on their computers. I do. I don't even own a tv per se, just a 28" HD monitor from Dell.
In terms of price point, Sony has an all-in-one WITH BLU-RAY and WITH MULTI-TOUCH 1080p screen on the market for $1300. http://www.engadget.com/tag/vaiol
Next to it, Apple doesn't exactly look like the innovator with their current iMac.
Once upon a time (1999 DVD arrived on the iMac 2 years into DVD history) they were but now profits have overtaken Apple. I can just see the new Microsoft ads going after Apple on lack of Blu-ray both in machines and OS. How will they respond to the public? "Oh we feel Blu-ray is a bag of hurt."
Thanks for the link- I will check this baby out at lunch. I work in close proximity of both Sony Style and Apple in NYC.
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Just a quick question guys, the new 27' seems pretty good. but i'm debating between the \t 3.06GHz dual core or the i5 quad. if i dont do much video editing or finalcut stuff. would I see a noticeble difference? Same question with the lesser video card. I tried the old imac 2.66 dual core, and it seemed fine, i just dunno if dualcore will become obsolete soon, cuz gonna be a long term investment, i just dont want new programs to come up that runs poorly on a dual core
For Apple Pro Apps, the GPU is more important then the CPU. I was so busy focusing on the GPU on the new Mac's I didn't notice for some time the one with the best GPU was also a quad core!
That's my main beef with the iMac - you are stick with whatever GPU it ships with
I guess the iMac will remain a curiosity which few actually buy.
"Remain"? Hmm, you must have missed the "best quarter ever" articles from yesterday
None that come with a computer that is available retail, mostly on FireGL or Quadro, and good luck trying to find a DP display. Displayport has had years and its not gaining any traction. Even Apple's efforts haven't been able to jump start it. I'm sorry, but HDMI is the connector that's moving forward.
It's starting off at the high end, and will work its way down.
But Displayport is standard on all 5800 series cards from ATI, and I guess other ATI card vendors as well.
From Anands review of the new 5870:
With the 5800 series, DisplayPort is getting a much-needed kick in the pants. DisplayPort (full size) is standard on all 5800 series cards – prior to this it has been rather absent on reference cards. Along with a DisplayPort, the 5870 reference card contains a dedicated HDMI port, and a pair of DVI ports.
And here's the pic:
http://www.anandtech.com/GalleryImage.aspx?id=6878
You can easily see the port.
The entire article, if you're interested:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=1
Also, Dell monitors, such as this one, though there are others:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=320-8277
I should have added this earlier. ATI 57xx cards, a much less expensive line, also has displayport outputs:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=1
You'll notice that on this less expensive card, while HDMI 1.3 only goes to 1920 x 1200, both dual link DVI AND Displayport go to 2560 x 1600.
The environment plays no part in my intense hatred of buying batteries for products that shouldn't need them. Wires are cheap, secure and reliable.
And yet for a keyboard and mouse, a PITA.
Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries Best invention ever. They don't shelf-discharge like traditional re-chargeables. I charge the ones in my old Apple BlueTooth keyboard maybe twice a year. I also use them with my photo gear - can leave them in my bag for months at a time and they will still have over 90% of their charge. In fact they come pre-charged and you can use them the day you buy them. If I have either forgotten to bring batteries or not brought enough charged ones, instead of buying more alkalines in a pinch, if available I just buy another four pack of eneloops since they come charged and I can re-charge them again and again.
They also make a universal USB charger that can charge my iPhone 3G about two and a half times. Costco has 'em for $10 cheaper. Unlike many of the iPhone specific chargers, this one will charge anything that uses USB for charging (like my *gag* work blackberry).
Just out of curiosity, for the people wondering why no HDMI on the new iMacs:
1) HDMI is a consumer standard with royalty fees
2) Display Port is royalty free and compatible with HDMI with an adaptor
That's all you need to know. If your waiting for Apple to integrate and HDMI port on a Mac your going to be waiting a LONG time...
I'm not sure that Apple are going down the right road here with the increased disk sizes (1TB standard, 2TB upgrade). I guess that we should now expect to see a corresponding upgrade to Time Capsule to move to a 4TB to allow backups. 1TB or 2TB on board represents a huge amount of data that I guess most people won't fill in a hurry but more importantly it encourages an 'all eggs in one basket' mentality that will be a huge problem if a) it falls over and has to be recovered or b) when you come to migrate. Surely as market innovators we should be expecting Apple to push for an affordable (to us!) lifetime off machine storage - such as cloud - with guarantees of privacy and security.
People complain when Apple doesn't have big enough drives available. Are you complaining that they're too big?
That would be a first.
Everyone should have a backup drive, no matter what the size of their main drive.
And yet for a keyboard and mouse, a PITA.
Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries Best invention ever. They don't shelf-discharge like traditional re-chargeables. I charge the ones in my old Apple BlueTooth keyboard maybe twice a year. I also use them with my photo gear - can leave them in my bag for months at a time and they will still have over 90% of their charge. In fact they come pre-charged and you can use them the day you buy them. If I have either forgotten to bring batteries or not brought enough charged ones, instead of buying more alkalines in a pinch, if available I just buy another four pack of eneloops since they come charged and I can re-charge them again and again.
They also make a universal USB charger that can charge my iPhone 3G about two and a half times. Costco has 'em for $10 cheaper. Unlike many of the iPhone specific chargers, this one will charge anything that uses USB for charging (like my *gag* work blackberry).
All lithium rechargeables' have very good shelf life. None self discharge appreciably. I've got some I haven't used for a year after a recharge, and they still have almost a full charge.
Business people tend to be high in the self control department and Apple is a consumer products company, catering to people with low self control/early computer users with little experience.
I've seen lots of tortured logic on these boards to try to make a bigger deal then just personal preference when it comes to displays - but this raises excrement to record heights. Thanks for the chuckle.
Get a screen protector like in the good 'ol CRT days or get a PC, but don't hold your breath waiting for a matte option on the desktop (personally I wish Apple would just do it to shut the @T%#%$ whiners up, but that doesn't work because then they complain about getting charged for having to compensate for their low-volume option)
Not even close. B-R players will supplant DVD players. DVD players are as cheap as they can possibly get. I remember when they were as expensive as B-R is. I don't recommend people going out and buying $25 players, or even $50 ones, but they do exist.
We'll see B-R players drop to that level, and then what will be the purpose of DVD players? There won't be any.
One major advantage that BR-D has is that it is compatible with DVD. Once BR-D players drop below $150, many people will upgrade because they can still use it to play their DVDs, CDs, etc. If a person has a BR-D player, and his/her favorite TV show/movie comes out in both formats, which would he/she choose? 480p or 1080p? If the prices aren't too far apart, I'd bet the latter --but BR-D has to come down in price, especially in this economy, as people don't want to spend $25 per disc.
PPV and On-Demand have been around since BEFORE DVD, yet DVD eventually displaced VHS. People think that digital delivery services will wipe out BR-D are simply unaware of technology. For one thing, even a compressed 1080p BR-D rip is around 8Gb (up to 12Gb for long, three-hour films like Watchmen). How many 1080p films will regular people want to download?
As for VOD, many movie buyers want archives of their films, not just rentals. Like I noted earlier, PPV has been around for ages, and it never killed DVD.
I laugh when people compare BR-D to 8-track or Laser Disc when the latter two failed because most the industry didn't adopt it, whereas BR-D is what ALL manufacturers and movie studios are now backing.
One very interesting note --the PS3 Slim officially sold more units this past month than either the xBox 360 or the Wii. Since the PS3's initial launch, this is the first time that the console has ever been the top-seller for an entire month. BR-D is not as obscure as some posters here like to believe.
As for SD cards replacing BR-D for media distribution, some of you don't understand that BR-D as multimedia has nothing to fear from SD cards, which are meant for data storage.
. What people on here complain about is that to buy the EXACT same hardware, except the "case", but the actual components, usually cost much less when building a pc.
Actually, you would be quite wrong. When buying the exact same components, Apple is often cheaper and/or provides more features then the equivalent PC. This is old news ever since Apple switched it Intel and direct comparisons became quite easy.
What often happens is people cite crap (literally) hardware, like a $400 netbook, and then moan that the cheapest Apple notebook is $900. Well hell yes, Apple doesn't produce crap. If you want a basic experience, Apple isn't your brand - welcome to Windows (or Linux - name your poison) land.
A Dell or HP workstation configured with specs similar to my Mac Pro is almost $1K more. Apple puts out an incredible value for their hardware in the segments they compete in.
Apple just doesn't compete in all segments. Why should they? They siphon the cream off the top and leave the dregs to the PC vendors. They certainly don't cater to the lower end, no-margin market. Wahh....
I mean, all those netbook sales have been such a boon to Acer, Dell and HP's profits /sarcasm
If you wan't bottom of the barrel hardware, go get a PC. If you want a nice machine that is an excellent value - esp. if you factor in software and not just hardware, as well as the overall ownership experience then suck it up and save for a Mac. But all this whining for a cheap Mac is just pi**ing into the wind. Enjoy your shower.
But you are really annoying, especially today.
The forum has a wonderful ignore function. Honestly, I don't understand why people tolerate things that annoy them and I really don't understand why they egg the said annoyances on
DisplayPort is effectively dead in the water
That's funny, at work I have two PC laptops (Dell, Lenovo) and all of our new PC desktops (Dell) come with it (along with DVI).
Not bad for a dead port. Perhaps it's the first zombie port? Uh oh, a new harbinger of the zombie apocalypse!
One major advantage that BR-D has is that it is compatible with DVD. Once BR-D players drop below $150, many people will upgrade because they can still use it to play their DVDs, CDs, etc. If a person has a BR-D player, and his/her favorite TV show/movie comes out in both formats, which would he/she choose? 480p or 1080p? If the prices aren't too far apart, I'd bet the latter --but BR-D has to come down in price, especially in this economy, as people don't want to spend $25 per disc.
PPV and On-Demand have been around since BEFORE DVD, yet DVD eventually displaced VHS. People think that digital delivery services will wipe out BR-D are simply unaware of technology. For one thing, even a compressed 1080p BR-D rip is around 8Gb (up to 12Gb for long, three-hour films like Watchmen). How many 1080p films will regular people want to download?
As for VOD, many movie buyers want archives of their films, not just rentals. Like I noted earlier, PPV has been around for ages, and it never killed DVD.
I laugh when people compare BR-D to 8-track or Laser Disc when the latter two failed because most the industry didn't adopt it, whereas BR-D is what ALL manufacturers and movie studios are now backing.
One very interesting note --the PS3 Slim officially sold more units this past month than either the xBox 360 or the Wii. Since the PS3's initial launch, this is the first time that the console has ever been the top-seller for an entire month. BR-D is not as obscure as some posters here like to believe.
As for SD cards replacing BR-D for media distribution, some of you don't understand that BR-D as multimedia has nothing to fear from SD cards, which are meant for data storage.
It also requires at least a 10Mb/s connection to stream a B-R quality 1080p video in high quality mode.
Very few people have a connection faster than 3 Mb/s. Mine is 6, and i won't be able to do it.
I find it amusing that so many people here keep telling us how bad Apple's HD movies look, and how they won't rent or buy them, but then we have people saying that the junk that Netflix, which from my own experience with it shows me, is not better than Apple's, looks good enough.
It's going to take years for this to be good enough. People do care about video quality.
Are you certain about that? It looks to me like it has tilt.
Height adjustment would be a big plus though, swivel a plus too, but not as necessary as the height, with the IPS.
I should call it rotate. The Dell displays can rotate into portrait mode and it's very useful for design work. The swivel isn't so much for viewing angle but if you quickly need to show a work colleague something or in the case of the iMac avoid glare.
They could have put the dirt cheap i5s in the 21 inchers. They would have walked out the stores.
Yeah, that would have been a better choice. In all honesty, I think bigger is not always better and I will simply never want a 27" display on my desk. I do want a quad core hooked up to my 22" display though so yet again, the only option is a £1900 tower.
At least they have a desktop quad-core consumer model though so it's a start and if you want a massive LED IPS screen, it's great value as someone else pointed out.
I should call it rotate. The Dell displays can rotate into portrait mode and it's very useful for design work. The swivel isn't so much for viewing angle but if you quickly need to show a work colleague something or in the case of the iMac avoid glare.
Yeah, that would have been a better choice. In all honesty, I think bigger is not always better and I will simply never want a 27" display on my desk. I do want a quad core hooked up to my 22" display though so yet again, the only option is a £1900 tower.
At least they have a desktop quad-core consumer model though so it's a start and if you want a massive LED IPS screen, it's great value as someone else pointed out.
Computers aren't monitors. I wouldn't compare this to a display. What would happen to the cooling?
Blu-ray uses the following video codecs: MPEG-2, H.264/AVC, en SMPTE VC-1.
So the encoding of HD movies on Blu-ray is the same as what Mac OS X supports best, namely H.264.
H.264 content can be downloaded from all over the internet. Like for example Apples movie trailers and Apples iTunes movie store.
The 1080p downloads are really stunning to look at.
The only real difference between Blu-ray and HD H.264 downloads is bandwidth. And in most cases this isn't even perceptible.
So, quit the whining and start downloading.
I can't believe most of the posts have been whining about the lack of a BluRay drive. Just because the technology exists, doesn't mean a computer actually needs it. If you really want one, go buy an external drive and STFU. They have been around for years.
If the iMac had one, all of you would bitch and complain about the price increase over previous models, and then bitch about the high price of blank media, and bitch how slow it is to back up data.
How many of you actually crowd around the computer to watch a movie? My guess is NONE. You watch them on your big screen TV.
The iMac upgrades are a great improvement over the previous models. All models now have a fantastic display (the inferior 20" is finally gone). 4 GB RAM across the board, dedicated graphics on 3 out of the 4 models, big hard drives, SD card slot, wireless keyboard and a new kick-ass mouse all standard. They are a great upgrade from either an iMac G5 or early iMac Intel.
What's the point of an "all-in-one" like the imac if you have to buy an external drive?
I think tons of folks watch movies on their computers. I do. I don't even own a tv per se, just a 28" HD monitor from Dell.
In terms of price point, Sony has an all-in-one WITH BLU-RAY and WITH MULTI-TOUCH 1080p screen on the market for $1300. http://www.engadget.com/tag/vaiol
Next to it, Apple doesn't exactly look like the innovator with their current iMac.
It also requires at least a 10Mb/s connection to stream a B-R quality 1080p video in high quality mode.
Very few people have a connection faster than 3 Mb/s. Mine is 6, and i won't be able to do it.
Your wrong on this. In Europe and especially in the Netherlands 20Mb/s is the norm and very cheap per month ($30, and most of the time this includes unlimited calls). Several providers are offering 100Mb/s connections next year. (And as a side note, in Finland a 20Mb/s (or something) is required by law.)
So bandwidth isn't a problem at all, even for Blu-ray downloads.
What's the point of an "all-in-one" like the imac if you have to buy an external drive?
I think tons of folks watch movies on their computers. I do. I don't even own a tv per se, just a 28" HD monitor from Dell.
In terms of price point, Sony has an all-in-one WITH BLU-RAY and WITH MULTI-TOUCH 1080p screen on the market for $1300. http://www.engadget.com/tag/vaiol
Next to it, Apple doesn't exactly look like the innovator with their current iMac.
Once upon a time (1999 DVD arrived on the iMac 2 years into DVD history) they were but now profits have overtaken Apple. I can just see the new Microsoft ads going after Apple on lack of Blu-ray both in machines and OS. How will they respond to the public? "Oh we feel Blu-ray is a bag of hurt."
Thanks for the link- I will check this baby out at lunch. I work in close proximity of both Sony Style and Apple in NYC.