There are 500 million CMDA2000 users, 130 million EV-DO users, if the EV-DO users are a subset of the CDMA ones, I don't know, but I guess they would be.
I was being conservative. I don't know how many are on that in China.
That would be a good time to do it, especially with other vendors getting closer to the iPhone so waiting for a full year to pass before giving us the iPhone OS demo, new SDK and then the new HW may not be viable strategy anymore.
Maybe Apple is going to a twice a year iPhone refresh - as it would make sense to have releases in March/April and Sept/October (instead to June/July and January).
"Our goal is to bring more apps to millions more of our customers who want convenient access to the market's hottest apps," de la Vega said. "At the same time, in the future, we plan to go well beyond mobile devices to spur apps development."
de la Vega then added, "Although we hope to entice customers to download and use these apps, we hope it doesn't become so popular as to strain our fragile network. By 'millions more of our customers' I actually only mean about 'hundreds more of our customers' while we build out our backbone-of-a-jellyfish infrastructure."
de la Vega ended by shutting down the portable cell phone tower he brought to provide reception for his Motorola StarTac.
Maybe Apple is going to a twice a year iPhone refresh - as it would make sense to have releases in March/April and Sept/October (instead to June/July and January).
I'd like to see Apple do a .5 update at about the 6 month mark. Others are moving pretty rapidly. Apple appears to be behind as they rarely release major features before the new version comes out. Overall, Apple has as much of an upgrade as they do, it just takes the full year. But for competitive purposes, I'm not sure the once a year upgrade is as helpful as it was when stodgier companies were taking two years between upgrades.
Just cause at&t didn't talk about the iPhone, doesn't mean their exclusivity is gonna over and done.
At&t and Apple are a unique partnership. At&t let's Apple be Apple, and Apple let's at&t be at&t.
It's like them saying- "hey, I'm the one with the cellphone, and you're the one giving the phone its service. You do what you gotta do, and I'll just manage the phone itself. Plain and simple."
And then there was an agreement!
So at&t is being smart enough, and minding its own business, and letting Apple take care of the sales.
That won't work, because LTE will need to fall back to CDMA on Verizon's network when LTE is not available, just like 3G falls back to Edge and GPRS. Apple needs a CDMA-capable phone to support Verizon within the five years. The buzz is growing; the Verizon iPhone is coming.
Not what I suggested. Your fall back is a free VZ phone with a $35 dollar a month plan. Some people would consider that pocket change. LTE is not going to be for everyone in the beginning.
My point about a CDMA phone being "dumb" is that it's a fading technology and pretty much not used anywhere except the USA. I think the conventional wisdom is that even if the entire USA was on CDMA, it probably wouldn't make sense to make a CDMA phone. It's a dead end technology.
CDMA might have no long term future, but it will still take years before it disappears. In the meantime, the lack of an CDMA iPhone allows Android to compete unopposed. Apple cannot rely on people switching from Verizon to AT&T in order to sell iPhones, they need to be on all major networks.
Well they have been on life support for the past year or more. Palm has made quite the resurgence, but being exclusive to Sprint for so long was incredibly silly (or they were testing the water) They just went international and are now bringing the action to AT&T and Verizon, which gives the platform a much better chance at getting recognition and more widespread acceptance. As nice as the Pre is...Sprint? F*ck that lol.
RIM is successful because "It just works". People use phones as a communication device and the Blackberry has no superior in this regard. It doesnt have the eye candy that other platforms have (yet) or the webkit (yet) but the platform works and remarkably well.
Anyways, AT&T needs more phones other than the iPhone and 4 BlackBerrys so i see this as a great boost for AT&T. Hopefully the HTC HD2 makes its way to AT&T since the Nexus One is going to be on T-Mo and Verizon.
blackberries work as long as RIM's datacenters don't crash and your phone is a paperweight since everything goes through BIS or BES.
Verizon, who would presumably want to restrict the iPhone experience to almost the bare minimum, so that it would be able to force its own app store down the throats of consumers tied to that carrier rather than the App Store.
I used a Palm Treo on Verizon for years. It had no crippling by Verizon, and the regular Verizon app store was not even available on it.
There is precedent for Verizon offering an unrestricted smartphone.
Thank g-d, AT&T has been needing an Android phone for so long. I was about to buy an iPhone, but now I think I'll wait until "First half of 2010" for my AT&T Android... whenever that will be.
Apple will most certainly go to all other GSM carriers in the US sometime this year. iPhone 4G might even do CDMA, though there is kinda no point with 4G coming around. In any case exclusivity should have ended aready (starting Jan 1 for example) but it seems like there is something stopping Apple from leaving ATT. At first I thought it was technical, like the ability to do visual mailbox or have a fast enough 3G, but it seems like most carriers can do this now and so there is no point of sticking to just one carrier.
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There are 500 million CMDA2000 users, 130 million EV-DO users, if the EV-DO users are a subset of the CDMA ones, I don't know, but I guess they would be.
I was being conservative. I don't know how many are on that in China.
That would be a good time to do it, especially with other vendors getting closer to the iPhone so waiting for a full year to pass before giving us the iPhone OS demo, new SDK and then the new HW may not be viable strategy anymore.
Maybe Apple is going to a twice a year iPhone refresh - as it would make sense to have releases in March/April and Sept/October (instead to June/July and January).
"Our goal is to bring more apps to millions more of our customers who want convenient access to the market's hottest apps," de la Vega said. "At the same time, in the future, we plan to go well beyond mobile devices to spur apps development."
de la Vega then added, "Although we hope to entice customers to download and use these apps, we hope it doesn't become so popular as to strain our fragile network. By 'millions more of our customers' I actually only mean about 'hundreds more of our customers' while we build out our backbone-of-a-jellyfish infrastructure."
de la Vega ended by shutting down the portable cell phone tower he brought to provide reception for his Motorola StarTac.
Maybe Apple is going to a twice a year iPhone refresh - as it would make sense to have releases in March/April and Sept/October (instead to June/July and January).
I'd like to see Apple do a .5 update at about the 6 month mark. Others are moving pretty rapidly. Apple appears to be behind as they rarely release major features before the new version comes out. Overall, Apple has as much of an upgrade as they do, it just takes the full year. But for competitive purposes, I'm not sure the once a year upgrade is as helpful as it was when stodgier companies were taking two years between upgrades.
At&t and Apple are a unique partnership. At&t let's Apple be Apple, and Apple let's at&t be at&t.
It's like them saying- "hey, I'm the one with the cellphone, and you're the one giving the phone its service. You do what you gotta do, and I'll just manage the phone itself. Plain and simple."
And then there was an agreement!
So at&t is being smart enough, and minding its own business, and letting Apple take care of the sales.
That won't work, because LTE will need to fall back to CDMA on Verizon's network when LTE is not available, just like 3G falls back to Edge and GPRS. Apple needs a CDMA-capable phone to support Verizon within the five years. The buzz is growing; the Verizon iPhone is coming.
Not what I suggested. Your fall back is a free VZ phone with a $35 dollar a month plan. Some people would consider that pocket change. LTE is not going to be for everyone in the beginning.
My point about a CDMA phone being "dumb" is that it's a fading technology and pretty much not used anywhere except the USA. I think the conventional wisdom is that even if the entire USA was on CDMA, it probably wouldn't make sense to make a CDMA phone. It's a dead end technology.
CDMA might have no long term future, but it will still take years before it disappears. In the meantime, the lack of an CDMA iPhone allows Android to compete unopposed. Apple cannot rely on people switching from Verizon to AT&T in order to sell iPhones, they need to be on all major networks.
Well they have been on life support for the past year or more. Palm has made quite the resurgence, but being exclusive to Sprint for so long was incredibly silly (or they were testing the water) They just went international and are now bringing the action to AT&T and Verizon, which gives the platform a much better chance at getting recognition and more widespread acceptance. As nice as the Pre is...Sprint? F*ck that lol.
RIM is successful because "It just works". People use phones as a communication device and the Blackberry has no superior in this regard. It doesnt have the eye candy that other platforms have (yet) or the webkit (yet) but the platform works and remarkably well.
Anyways, AT&T needs more phones other than the iPhone and 4 BlackBerrys so i see this as a great boost for AT&T. Hopefully the HTC HD2 makes its way to AT&T since the Nexus One is going to be on T-Mo and Verizon.
blackberries work as long as RIM's datacenters don't crash and your phone is a paperweight since everything goes through BIS or BES.
blackberries work as long as RIM's datacenters don't crash and your phone is a paperweight since everything goes through BIS or BES.
What happens when Apples activation servers crash?
What happens when Apples activation servers crash?
What happens when Apples activation servers crash?
Wouldn't need them if the iPhone was sold in the US unlocked
Verizon, who would presumably want to restrict the iPhone experience to almost the bare minimum, so that it would be able to force its own app store down the throats of consumers tied to that carrier rather than the App Store.
I used a Palm Treo on Verizon for years. It had no crippling by Verizon, and the regular Verizon app store was not even available on it.
There is precedent for Verizon offering an unrestricted smartphone.
Well, check how much they fell today after that announcement, along with others made at CES.
Oh, I'm not concerned with today's or tomorrow's price. Just like you, I'm a long.
What happens when Apples activation servers crash?
Nothing to current users. What happens to Blackberry users when the same thing happens? Or Palm users, or Nokia users, or Win Mobile users etc?
Nothing to current users.
Since when does Apple activate phones and not the carriers?
Oh, I'm not concerned with today's or tomorrow's price. Just like you, I'm a long.
I'm just hoping that the tablet is close to what people think it will be in expectations, or there WILL be a sell-off.
Since when does Apple activate phones and not the carriers?
Only with AT&T does Apple play a part in that.