Chinese newspaper claims 22-inch touchscreen iMac coming in 2010

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  • Reply 41 of 59
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post


    Yep plenty of uses for that.



    And I'm not being sarcastic.



    Music industry is gagging for a device of just that size. Imagine a DJ platter, decks would be a thing of the past. Imagine synthesiser controls. etc



    Yes indeed. Pro Audio is my field. Imgine having it in your lap. The to a stand.
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  • Reply 42 of 59
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    Why does your headline refer to a Taiwanese newspaper, The Commercial Times, as being "Chinese"?



    Much of the world considers Taiwan as a separate country.



    Actually, hardly any countries consider Taiwan a "separate country" (legally speaking.) Even Taiwan's greatest supporter and ally, the US, does not.



    This is a historical artifact resulting from former Taiwanese government claims that Taiwan and Mainland China were one country and that Taiwan was the soul legitimate representative of all Chinese people. Very few countries agreed to accept this wishful thinking.



    Clearly this was a strategic mistake for Taiwan, since now the PRC has become a significant influence in the world and opposes any attempt for Taiwan to change this long standing policy. In effect though the ROC is a different country from the PRC, but they are both "China" which is really a cultural and geographic designation, not a political or national one.
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  • Reply 43 of 59
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Why does your headline refer to a Taiwanese newspaper, The Commercial Times, as being "Chinese"?



    Much of the world considers Taiwan as a separate country.



    Perhaps you should ask the 'Chinese'.



    FYI, a Taiwanese newspaper is a place where it is published, as the New York Times is to New York city.



    Many of people, particularly the older population living in Taiwan consider themselves 'Chinese'. They don't call themselves Taiwanians, Taiwanese citizens or citizens of Taiwan. The younger generations are more 'Taiwanese'. Overall, they are still Chinese. Sounds familiar?
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  • Reply 44 of 59
    Just more noise from the hype machine. Fie!
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  • Reply 45 of 59
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    The people living in Taiwan consider themselves as Chinese. They don't call themselves Taiwanians, Taiwanese citizens or citizens of Taiwan.



    Yeah they call themselves Formosans.
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  • Reply 46 of 59
    It is bad enough seeing fingerprints on a screen that currently is NOT a touchscreen device! Imagine how "great" it would look with thousands of fingerprints all over it. Wow, the pictures and text will look....just terrible! I never understood why some people have to physically touch the computer screen to point something out. Give them a touchscreen and it will just be a mess!
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  • Reply 47 of 59
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    Anyone with common sense knows this won't happen.



    Well, maybe not an iMac. However, there are tons of uses in point of sale for such a device. It would just have to run the same OS as the iPhone version p.o.s. units. Much less hardware required inside as well. Perhaps?
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  • Reply 48 of 59
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    Actually, hardly any countries consider Taiwan a "separate country" (legally speaking.) Even Taiwan's greatest supporter and ally, the US, does not.



    This is a historical artifact resulting from former Taiwanese government claims that Taiwan and Mainland China were one country and that Taiwan was the soul legitimate representative of all Chinese people. Very few countries agreed to accept this wishful thinking.



    Clearly this was a strategic mistake for Taiwan, since now the PRC has become a significant influence in the world and opposes any attempt for Taiwan to change this long standing policy. In effect though the ROC is a different country from the PRC, but they are both "China" which is really a cultural and geographic designation, not a political or national one.



    Not to be too off-topic or wade into a political debate, but I feel it is important to address.



    I agree that the issue of Taiwan's 'sovereign' status is complex. But it is incorrect to automatically assume that it is 'Chinese.' A great deal of US and international law would agree with me (see, e.g., http://www.taiwanadvice.com/plenary2yp.htm).



    It is perfectly reasonable and legitimate, by default, to call something from Taiwan 'Taiwanese.'
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  • Reply 49 of 59
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Not to be too off-topic or wade into a political debate, but I feel it is important to address.



    I agree that the issue of Taiwan's 'sovereign' status is complex. But it is incorrect to automatically assume that it is 'Chinese.' A great deal of US and international law would agree with me (see, e.g., http://www.taiwanadvice.com/plenary2yp.htm).



    It is perfectly reasonable and legitimate, by default, to call something from Taiwan 'Taiwanese.'



    From the 2006 winter Olympics they are listed as:

    China PR

    Chinese Taipei (Taiwan)
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  • Reply 50 of 59
    A Wacom Cintiq in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqee_bB1LxY&NR=1.



    It combines an LCD monitor and a tablet in one.



    If Apple were to release a touchscreen iMac I could see it easily becoming standard equipment for artists.
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  • Reply 51 of 59
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    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    From the 2006 winter Olympics they are listed as:

    China PR

    Chinese Taipei (Taiwan)



    OK, last post on this issue.



    Yes, "Chinese Taipei," would also be an appropriate reference. In which case, the headline should read "Chinese Taipei's newspaper claims...." (not "Chinese newspaper claims....")



    But note that it also says "(Taiwan)" in parentheses. Incidentally, Taiwan is a member of WTO - arguably a far more important global forum for them compared to the Olympics - and their official WTO-given name is "Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan."



    The only reason I bring this up is that AI is read all over the world, and it is perhaps important to use the most globally accepted nomenclature for these types of references.
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  • Reply 52 of 59
    That's great, then we could nave those 3 ft. long chalkboard pointers with the rubber tips like Miss. Fink, "her real name" used in Grammer School. She had a long reach as I remember. Clear across the next aisle. Could give you a clean wack without dropping a comment. \



    Then there's homelife....got kids....purchase lots of Windex or Plastic wrap

    You could install muti tear offs.......the ideas abound.....
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  • Reply 53 of 59
    intenseintense Posts: 106member
    maybe it's a bigger version of the tablet
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  • Reply 54 of 59
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    Originally Posted by Orlando View Post


    A Wacom Cintiq in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqee_bB1LxY&NR=1.



    It combines an LCD monitor and a tablet in one.



    If Apple were to release a touchscreen iMac I could see it easily becoming standard equipment for artists.



    ... and architects and any drafting for engineering etc.
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  • Reply 55 of 59
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    Originally Posted by Tipton View Post


    ... and architects and any drafting for engineering etc.



    Im not sure this would help in engineering. AutoCAD MEP is an ok advance, but all this requires straight lines and such. Drawing with a pencil is a step backwards IMO.
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  • Reply 56 of 59
    desuserigndesuserign Posts: 1,316member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    OK, last post on this issue.



    Yes, "Chinese Taipei," would also be an appropriate reference. In which case, the headline should read "Chinese Taipei's newspaper claims...." (not "Chinese newspaper claims....")



    But note that it also says "(Taiwan)" in parentheses. Incidentally, Taiwan is a member of WTO - arguably a far more important global forum for them compared to the Olympics - and their official WTO-given name is "Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan."



    The only reason I bring this up is that AI is read all over the world, and it is perhaps important to use the most globally accepted nomenclature for these types of references.



    There are complexities, but its not really that complex.

    A few points.

    • Chinese is a language.

    • China is a geographical area.

    • The island is called Taiwan.

    • It is formerly a province of "China."

    • Officially the Taiwanese government still claims to be a province of "China."

    • Apple Insider referred to it as a "Chinese" newspaper, not a "Mainland China" or "Free China" paper.

    • What is the paper called? It's called "The 'China' Times."

    • Is the paper published in Taiwanese? No, it's published in Mandarin, the dialect of Northern China and the official language of both Taiwan and the PRC.

    • Is the Taiwanese language Chinese? Yes.

    • Are the PRC and the ROC the same place, No.



    Consider this:

    • Is South America part of America? (yes)

    • Is the US called America? (yes)

    • Is Brazil part of the United States? (no)

    • Is Massachusetts is a former colony of England? (yes)

    • Is New England in England?

    • Are there "English" papers in Boston? (yes)
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  • Reply 57 of 59
    orlandoorlando Posts: 601member
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    Originally Posted by technohermit View Post


    Im not sure this would help in engineering. AutoCAD MEP is an ok advance, but all this requires straight lines and such. Drawing with a pencil is a step backwards IMO.



    Surely it would work just as well as using a mouse. Touch a point and then drag to where you want the line to go. The software creates a straight line between the two points.



    The advantage is you are not interacting with one thing whilst looking in a different direction.
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  • Reply 58 of 59
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by DESuserIGN View Post


    There are complexities, but its not really that complex.

    A few points.

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    Consider this:

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    Excellent argument and well made point.
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  • Reply 59 of 59
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    Originally Posted by Orlando View Post


    Surely it would work just as well as using a mouse. Touch a point and then drag to where you want the line to go. The software creates a straight line between the two points.



    The advantage is you are not interacting with one thing whilst looking in a different direction.



    Good point. I guess it would all be in the way it's done. Snapping to points would be beneficial with a finger touch or a pen point.

    Edit: Although, drawing lines isn't just drawing lines, especially Architecturally or Mechanically. There would need to be a way to dimension the lines accurately. This is done by keyboard input, and I still don't see the advantage of the pencil for the most part.



    One of the better mechanical CAD/CAM programs I've used is EastCoast. Horrible UI from the DOS days, though. I think they have gone solely AutoCAD plugin at this point, although I haven't had the chance to use it.
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