The company invites feedback on its supplier responsibility program and encourages the reporting of possible violations, which can be made to the address: [email protected]
Forgot to mention that all emails will be monitored by Chinese authorities, and anyone embarrassing a chinese corporation will lose his job. Furthermore, all of said person's family will also lose their jobs, as well as any state-provided housing, food and health care.
This article is one big pile of horse shit.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
They also get to operate their manufacturing facilities under China's environmental policy, which makes America's bogus policies actually look progressive, so Apple and Walmart save lots of money by disposing of hazardous waste in a manner much cheaper/polluting than they could anywhere else.
Wow, Apple, thanks for having your lawyers write this press release! So much better than moving operations to countries with basic human rights and environmental policies!
You can name just about ANY major electronics company and they have work done by Foxconn.
At least Apple is being more open about their suppliers and is taking steps to improve the lot of the workers.
Unlike others who are very quiet on the issue.
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Originally Posted by Woohoo!
I wonder if the two guards who beat up a couple of reporters taking pictures of the Foxconn China plant used to make Apple products come under these guidelines?
Tried to drag them inside the plant too...no sh*t!
he was referring to the arbitrary yanking of all "adult-themed" or jiggly-type apps from its app store.
that does qualify as pretty morally repressive if you ask me.
No more repressive then the FCC. When you think about it, APPLE was built mostly for children in mind, well at least for some time. There is a bigger parent market out there buying Macs then some "Adult" as you put it out there. Take Adult Swim. There are a lot of their apps and they are not kid safe but Apple allows them. Apple does not condone Porn Apps.
No more repressive then the FCC. When you think about it, APPLE was built mostly for children in mind, well at least for some time. There is a bigger parent market out there buying Macs then some "Adult" as you put it out there. Take Adult Swim. There are a lot of their apps and they are not kid safe but Apple allows them. Apple does not condone Porn Apps.
Unless of course it's Playboy brand, in case the established success of that company buys them a pass.
What a load of politically correct crap. If they really gave a shit about it they would find other companies that meet the standards they published, without having to publish a document.
All you 'way to go apple' boys should stop and think for yourselves for a change. It's no wonder why this country has slipped a gear, too many lazy people just willing to accept rather than change.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
Not simply 3rd world level wages ... this is essentially prison labor we're talking about. The Chinese people are prisoners of the regime in power. It's a damn sad place to visit.
This entire policy is great PR by Apple ahead of their iPad launch. Brush up the hair, put a shine on those teeth, and then step into the spotlight.
Not simply 3rd world level wages ... this is essentially prison labor we're talking about. The Chinese people are prisoners of the regime in power. It's a damn sad place to visit.
This entire policy is great PR by Apple ahead of their iPad launch. Brush up the hair, put a shine on those teeth, and then step into the spotlight.
Apple again propels itself years ahead of the competition, now on yet another front and even before (too) bad PR came. As Appl sets high standards on all areas it just becomes harder and harder for the rest to reach it.
I agree that this is a good, bold and NECESSARY move on Apple's part.
Finally bring supplier labor practices out into the Public light.
I hope this does pressure both the suppliers - who it seems of late are in countries with far less concern for worker well-being - and the other big computer vendors - who need to come out into the open with their own relationships with supplier employee practices.
And a side note, the Foxconn issue is not Apple's issue per se, since Foxconn has been in the PC and micro component manufacturing business for decades, and supplies to many of the major Windows PC vendors.
I agree that this is a good, bold and NECESSARY move on Apple's part.
Finally bring supplier labor practices out into the Public light.
I hope this does pressure both the suppliers - who it seems of late are in countries with far less concern for worker well-being - and the other big computer vendors - who need to come out into the open with their own relationships with supplier employee practices.
And a side note, the Foxconn issue is not Apple's issue per se, since Foxconn has been in the PC and micro component manufacturing business for decades, and supplies to many of the major Windows PC vendors.
Yeah, right cause the murder of the Foxconn worker a year or so ago didn't bring anything to the public eye right? You really think the public has no idea about the treatment of Chinese workers? It's Apples secrecy that aids this behavior as well, so maybe they should think about knocking that off a little bit.
Yeah, those Foxconn workers should stop making Apple stuff and keep going with X Box 360's, Zunes, PS3's PSP's, Nintendo Wii's, Nokia phones, Lenovo computers, motherboards under various brands, graphics cards under various names and all the other things Foxconn manufactures without Apple's spotlight of visibility.
Out of sight is out of mind, right?
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Originally Posted by steviet02
Yeah, right cause the murder of the Foxconn worker a year or so ago didn't bring anything to the public eye right? You really think the public has no idea about the treatment of Chinese workers? It's Apples secrecy that aids this behavior as well, so maybe they should think about knocking that off a little bit.
Is the article "a crock"? The policy "a crock"? Or do you believe it's not great PR?
Or are you saying living and working in Communist China is a delight?
If you understand what it takes to bring a country out of poverty you realize there must be a wide berth given to people as they claw their way upward and out of the sinkhole. And to be fair, the fact they are communist has almost nothing to do with anything. From over there, the US looks short-sighted and idiotic.
I applaud Apple's transparency, but even having said that I think I understand how things happen over there to some degree having seen some of the worst and the best, sometimes all in the same day.
Forgot to mention that all emails will be monitored by Chinese authorities, and anyone embarrassing a chinese corporation will lose his job. Furthermore, all of said person's family will also lose their jobs, as well as any state-provided housing, food and health care.
This article is one big pile of horse shit.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
They also get to operate their manufacturing facilities under China's environmental policy, which makes America's bogus policies actually look progressive, so Apple and Walmart save lots of money by disposing of hazardous waste in a manner much cheaper/polluting than they could anywhere else.
Wow, Apple, thanks for having your lawyers write this press release! So much better than moving operations to countries with basic human rights and environmental policies!
Superbass
Apparently, you haven't stayed in any Third World country for any length of time, did you. Here is the deal, Third World wages are still wages that will feed them, help them pay their rent, send their children to school and buy clothes,etc. In regards to human rights, please, spare me . To them, while the situation over there sucks to us, is heavenly compared to the alternative, hungry, tired and on insufficient government dole. Let me put everything in perspective, China right now is converting from a largely agricultural country in a manufacturing powerhouse. In order to that, they are willing to cut some corners largely in human rights, wages, control and what have you that are anathema to Western countries. But guess what, for the common Chinese worker, all our concerns are irrelevant, to them those wages that are being paid to them are much better than the local wages the local companies without multinational backing can ever offer.
I came from the Philippines and I know the drill about multinational companies and the locals who work for them. They get paid more than other local companies have to offer and for that, market forces forced those local companies to improve the pay , treat their employees better in order to compete with the multinationals for competent people to work for them. As for child labor, here is the sad truth, unless anyone of you had seen the squalor of the really poor in Third World countries , you would not believe how many children who are willing to work in those damned factories rather than be hungry, prostitute themselves or be members of a gang. At least, in those factories, they might be given an education to help them in their job.
I had seen the effects of those people who wanted American pay and working standards for local workers back in the Philippines. The working standards were expensive but doable, but when it comes to apply Western pay standards, most multinationals balk because what's the point of building factories in the Philippines and giving job to the locals if they will be forced to pay the locals American, European or Japanese wages by the politicians. The result was predictable, the multinationals left, the locals had no jobs and the do-gooders along with their local union friends and politicians celebrate their hollow victory.
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The company invites feedback on its supplier responsibility program and encourages the reporting of possible violations, which can be made to the address: [email protected]
Forgot to mention that all emails will be monitored by Chinese authorities, and anyone embarrassing a chinese corporation will lose his job. Furthermore, all of said person's family will also lose their jobs, as well as any state-provided housing, food and health care.
This article is one big pile of horse shit.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
They also get to operate their manufacturing facilities under China's environmental policy, which makes America's bogus policies actually look progressive, so Apple and Walmart save lots of money by disposing of hazardous waste in a manner much cheaper/polluting than they could anywhere else.
Wow, Apple, thanks for having your lawyers write this press release! So much better than moving operations to countries with basic human rights and environmental policies!
You can name just about ANY major electronics company and they have work done by Foxconn.
At least Apple is being more open about their suppliers and is taking steps to improve the lot of the workers.
Unlike others who are very quiet on the issue.
I wonder if the two guards who beat up a couple of reporters taking pictures of the Foxconn China plant used to make Apple products come under these guidelines?
Tried to drag them inside the plant too...no sh*t!
http://www.businessinsider.com/reute...ppliers-2010-2
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61G3XA20100217
he was referring to the arbitrary yanking of all "adult-themed" or jiggly-type apps from its app store.
that does qualify as pretty morally repressive if you ask me.
No more repressive then the FCC. When you think about it, APPLE was built mostly for children in mind, well at least for some time. There is a bigger parent market out there buying Macs then some "Adult" as you put it out there. Take Adult Swim. There are a lot of their apps and they are not kid safe but Apple allows them. Apple does not condone Porn Apps.
No more repressive then the FCC. When you think about it, APPLE was built mostly for children in mind, well at least for some time. There is a bigger parent market out there buying Macs then some "Adult" as you put it out there. Take Adult Swim. There are a lot of their apps and they are not kid safe but Apple allows them. Apple does not condone Porn Apps.
Unless of course it's Playboy brand, in case the established success of that company buys them a pass.
All you 'way to go apple' boys should stop and think for yourselves for a change. It's no wonder why this country has slipped a gear, too many lazy people just willing to accept rather than change.
This article is one big pile of horse shit.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
Not simply 3rd world level wages ... this is essentially prison labor we're talking about. The Chinese people are prisoners of the regime in power. It's a damn sad place to visit.
This entire policy is great PR by Apple ahead of their iPad launch. Brush up the hair, put a shine on those teeth, and then step into the spotlight.
● Covering their ass
If that was all, is there a problem? (Moreover, it's the polite thing to do).
Not simply 3rd world level wages ... this is essentially prison labor we're talking about. The Chinese people are prisoners of the regime in power. It's a damn sad place to visit.
This entire policy is great PR by Apple ahead of their iPad launch. Brush up the hair, put a shine on those teeth, and then step into the spotlight.
What a crock.
What a crock.
Is the article "a crock"? The policy "a crock"? Or do you believe it's not great PR?
Or are you saying living and working in Communist China is a delight?
Apple again propels itself years ahead of the competition, now on yet another front and even before (too) bad PR came. As Appl sets high standards on all areas it just becomes harder and harder for the rest to reach it.
I agree that this is a good, bold and NECESSARY move on Apple's part.
Finally bring supplier labor practices out into the Public light.
I hope this does pressure both the suppliers - who it seems of late are in countries with far less concern for worker well-being - and the other big computer vendors - who need to come out into the open with their own relationships with supplier employee practices.
And a side note, the Foxconn issue is not Apple's issue per se, since Foxconn has been in the PC and micro component manufacturing business for decades, and supplies to many of the major Windows PC vendors.
I agree that this is a good, bold and NECESSARY move on Apple's part.
Finally bring supplier labor practices out into the Public light.
I hope this does pressure both the suppliers - who it seems of late are in countries with far less concern for worker well-being - and the other big computer vendors - who need to come out into the open with their own relationships with supplier employee practices.
And a side note, the Foxconn issue is not Apple's issue per se, since Foxconn has been in the PC and micro component manufacturing business for decades, and supplies to many of the major Windows PC vendors.
Yeah, right cause the murder of the Foxconn worker a year or so ago didn't bring anything to the public eye right? You really think the public has no idea about the treatment of Chinese workers? It's Apples secrecy that aids this behavior as well, so maybe they should think about knocking that off a little bit.
Out of sight is out of mind, right?
Yeah, right cause the murder of the Foxconn worker a year or so ago didn't bring anything to the public eye right? You really think the public has no idea about the treatment of Chinese workers? It's Apples secrecy that aids this behavior as well, so maybe they should think about knocking that off a little bit.
Is the article "a crock"? The policy "a crock"? Or do you believe it's not great PR?
Or are you saying living and working in Communist China is a delight?
If you understand what it takes to bring a country out of poverty you realize there must be a wide berth given to people as they claw their way upward and out of the sinkhole. And to be fair, the fact they are communist has almost nothing to do with anything. From over there, the US looks short-sighted and idiotic.
I applaud Apple's transparency, but even having said that I think I understand how things happen over there to some degree having seen some of the worst and the best, sometimes all in the same day.
Forgot to mention that all emails will be monitored by Chinese authorities, and anyone embarrassing a chinese corporation will lose his job. Furthermore, all of said person's family will also lose their jobs, as well as any state-provided housing, food and health care.
This article is one big pile of horse shit.
The whole reason Apple, and every other American company, operates in China is that they can pay 3rd world level wages, and the workers have no human rights, so Apple is protected from any lawsuits by mistreated or injured/killed employees, unionization threats, etc. etc.
They also get to operate their manufacturing facilities under China's environmental policy, which makes America's bogus policies actually look progressive, so Apple and Walmart save lots of money by disposing of hazardous waste in a manner much cheaper/polluting than they could anywhere else.
Wow, Apple, thanks for having your lawyers write this press release! So much better than moving operations to countries with basic human rights and environmental policies!
Superbass
Apparently, you haven't stayed in any Third World country for any length of time, did you. Here is the deal, Third World wages are still wages that will feed them, help them pay their rent, send their children to school and buy clothes,etc. In regards to human rights, please, spare me . To them, while the situation over there sucks to us, is heavenly compared to the alternative, hungry, tired and on insufficient government dole. Let me put everything in perspective, China right now is converting from a largely agricultural country in a manufacturing powerhouse. In order to that, they are willing to cut some corners largely in human rights, wages, control and what have you that are anathema to Western countries. But guess what, for the common Chinese worker, all our concerns are irrelevant, to them those wages that are being paid to them are much better than the local wages the local companies without multinational backing can ever offer.
I came from the Philippines and I know the drill about multinational companies and the locals who work for them. They get paid more than other local companies have to offer and for that, market forces forced those local companies to improve the pay , treat their employees better in order to compete with the multinationals for competent people to work for them. As for child labor, here is the sad truth, unless anyone of you had seen the squalor of the really poor in Third World countries , you would not believe how many children who are willing to work in those damned factories rather than be hungry, prostitute themselves or be members of a gang. At least, in those factories, they might be given an education to help them in their job.
I had seen the effects of those people who wanted American pay and working standards for local workers back in the Philippines. The working standards were expensive but doable, but when it comes to apply Western pay standards, most multinationals balk because what's the point of building factories in the Philippines and giving job to the locals if they will be forced to pay the locals American, European or Japanese wages by the politicians. The result was predictable, the multinationals left, the locals had no jobs and the do-gooders along with their local union friends and politicians celebrate their hollow victory.