I must confess that the Creative suite runs so much better on windows. I found it just never played nice under OSX with pallettes disappearing and many other issues.
That is quite a confession. Was the Windows machine more or less expensive than the Mac?
Adobe has a record for spending more time with the Windows versions of everything and then just tweaking a few bits to make the Mac compat. This is why the interfaces are 'windows' like and not Mac. And why Jobs called them lazy for not optimizing anything for Mac like they do for Windows.
Didn't Adobe announce, a while ago, that they would deploy their resources in proportion to the expected sales of the final product?
Downloaded the Master Collection Upgrade from CS3 Design Premium (nearly 11gb) for less money than I paid to upgrade to CS3 in '07. And now have all the Production Suite apps and goodies as well. I'm not gung-ho about using Premiere, but with Apple dragging its feet and laying off FCS developers, I'm covering my butt.
As for interface looks-like issues, I just don't care any more. Using the Mac OS with menus at the top of the screen on multiple large monitors is just as much of a hassle as a UI "kinda looking like" Windows. I love the concept of consistent user interface, but Apple breaks its own rules whenever it wants. Its a tool, not a belief system or a religion.
I would love to purchase the new Adobe Creative Suite since my CS3 version is getting old. The problem I'm having is dealing with their technical support. During the past several months I've spent hours (days) talking to their technical support people on a minor issue of updating Adobe Acrobat Professional. The result is that each person I walk to - many dozens by now - asks me my name, email address, address, phone number, listens to my situation apologizes that I've been sent to the wrong department and passes me on to someone else who - asks me my name, email address, address, phone number, listens to my situation apologizes that I've been sent to the wrong department and passes me on to someone else who, etc. Adobe cannot even figure out now to pass my name to the next person - let alone the situation. It seem's Adobe's idea of technical support is to play music chairs with a customer until the customer goes away. Rick
could someone please explain why it's taken so long for adobe to go 64-bit? haven't they had about 10 years?.
Because Adobe products were developed in Carbon, and in 2009 Apple decided that Cocoa would be the only platform to support true 64Bit thus forcing companies like Adobe to recode a big deal of their software in Cocoa.
Apple wanted software developers to code in Cocoa and reduce subpar apps on the Mac platform.
I'm a web developer, not a designer, but I use Illustrator and Photoshop regularly to export web graphics from my designers' work (which usually includes rearranging the layers and doing other prep work). I don't think I use any features that have been introduced since 2000, but I have to keep upgrading to maintain compatibility with my OS, and with my designers' versions. I would happily pay for upgrades that fixed bugs and made the applications launch and run faster, but it's annoying paying for upgrades that just add bloat, and may or may not fix bugs from previous versions.
I guess I'm a special case and my "bloat" is another user's great new feature.
Oh well. I skipped CS4, so I guess I'll pony up for these.
Only a few are 64-bit. Bang-up job as usual, Adobe. Here is the equivalent of the cost of my computer for something that will go obsolete in half as much time.
I'm having exactly the same problem. It is absolutely infuriating. Technical support says I need to talk to customer support, who sends me back to tech, who sends me back to customer... I'm very obviously being transferred to India, and the guys I've been speaking to for the last hour, in addition to admitting they aren't familiar with the actual software their company sells, speak English so poorly half the time I don't even know what they're saying. Then they get pissy with me when I have to ask them to repeat themselves. ...How is any of this my fault?
My favorite Adobe customer support experience:
Today, after being sent back and forth for nearly an hour, trying to ask a question about OpenGL, my wacky operator goes, "Ohhhhh, I figure out you problem now... OpenGL supported only on Mac AirBook!"
I asked him if he expects me to believe the MacBook Air is the only Apple machine that can run Adobe CS5, and he goes, "Oh no no no no, must be Mac... AirBook!"
I'm a web developer, not a designer, but I use Illustrator and Photoshop regularly to export web graphics from my designers' work (which usually includes rearranging the layers and doing other prep work). I don't think I use any features that have been introduced since 2000, but I have to keep upgrading to maintain compatibility with my OS, and with my designers' versions. I would happily pay for upgrades that fixed bugs and made the applications launch and run faster, but it's annoying paying for upgrades that just add bloat, and may or may not fix bugs from previous versions.
I guess I'm a special case and my "bloat" is another user's great new feature.
Oh well. I skipped CS4, so I guess I'll pony up for these.
Same here as a dev, but luckily on Windows i can keep using Photoshop v.7, which has enough features to keep up, but none of the bloat...
So let's say you get the Master Collection and plan to use Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects along with Final Cut Pro 7 for daily HD video work. You boot your Mac Pro into 64bit mode to get the full benefit - particularly for After Effects.
What happens with FCP since it is not 64bit (WTF Apple)? Will it run? What about quicktime, is it 64bit?
So, how long till there is a patch for the trial version? Time to start taking bets?
There's already a key-generator. They're still working on making a fix for calling home to Adobe. Will be done by next week. As of now you can use CS5 if you're not connected to the net. Only a few more days.
This is so funny it makes me weak, half your sales come from Mac users and your interface still looks like windows like in nature. I will not reply to William G , since it is not that he does not get it, he just does not understand and thats why he will never get it.
Good business sense is to cover your majority of users buying your product.
Where would Apple be without Adobe, were it is right now, saying a BIG screw you to Flash and btw MS are joining the 'Screw you Flash" team.
Well I won't be buying it as long as long as there is a limitation as to how many times you can activate and deactivate the software.
I hit the limit early last year, when Apple kept swapping my CPU out rather than replacing it.
Now whenever I purchase a new machine, I need to go begging to Adobe to get an override code. Why do I feel like I'm begging when I purchased the fecking software?
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it's a bit underwhelming that in the time they've had, only photoshop is 64-bit and nothing else from the design suite.
I must confess that the Creative suite runs so much better on windows. I found it just never played nice under OSX with pallettes disappearing and many other issues.
That is quite a confession. Was the Windows machine more or less expensive than the Mac?
Adobe has a record for spending more time with the Windows versions of everything and then just tweaking a few bits to make the Mac compat. This is why the interfaces are 'windows' like and not Mac. And why Jobs called them lazy for not optimizing anything for Mac like they do for Windows.
Didn't Adobe announce, a while ago, that they would deploy their resources in proportion to the expected sales of the final product?
ISTM that is just good business.
As for interface looks-like issues, I just don't care any more. Using the Mac OS with menus at the top of the screen on multiple large monitors is just as much of a hassle as a UI "kinda looking like" Windows. I love the concept of consistent user interface, but Apple breaks its own rules whenever it wants. Its a tool, not a belief system or a religion.
could someone please explain why it's taken so long for adobe to go 64-bit? haven't they had about 10 years?.
Because Adobe products were developed in Carbon, and in 2009 Apple decided that Cocoa would be the only platform to support true 64Bit thus forcing companies like Adobe to recode a big deal of their software in Cocoa.
Apple wanted software developers to code in Cocoa and reduce subpar apps on the Mac platform.
I guess I'm a special case and my "bloat" is another user's great new feature.
Oh well. I skipped CS4, so I guess I'll pony up for these.
I'm having exactly the same problem. It is absolutely infuriating. Technical support says I need to talk to customer support, who sends me back to tech, who sends me back to customer... I'm very obviously being transferred to India, and the guys I've been speaking to for the last hour, in addition to admitting they aren't familiar with the actual software their company sells, speak English so poorly half the time I don't even know what they're saying. Then they get pissy with me when I have to ask them to repeat themselves. ...How is any of this my fault?
My favorite Adobe customer support experience:
Today, after being sent back and forth for nearly an hour, trying to ask a question about OpenGL, my wacky operator goes, "Ohhhhh, I figure out you problem now... OpenGL supported only on Mac AirBook!"
I asked him if he expects me to believe the MacBook Air is the only Apple machine that can run Adobe CS5, and he goes, "Oh no no no no, must be Mac... AirBook!"
I thanked him for his time and went on my way.
Sometimes I hate Adobe so much.
I'm a web developer, not a designer, but I use Illustrator and Photoshop regularly to export web graphics from my designers' work (which usually includes rearranging the layers and doing other prep work). I don't think I use any features that have been introduced since 2000, but I have to keep upgrading to maintain compatibility with my OS, and with my designers' versions. I would happily pay for upgrades that fixed bugs and made the applications launch and run faster, but it's annoying paying for upgrades that just add bloat, and may or may not fix bugs from previous versions.
I guess I'm a special case and my "bloat" is another user's great new feature.
Oh well. I skipped CS4, so I guess I'll pony up for these.
Same here as a dev, but luckily on Windows i can keep using Photoshop v.7, which has enough features to keep up, but none of the bloat...
Really feel bad for you Mac people
v.7 runs on:
Windows 98 (old, super old....)
Windows XP (using it now for the sake of speed)
Windows 7 (current version)
...and still unbeatably fast
Dan
So, how long till there is a patch for the trial version? Time to start taking bets?
Yes and how long till we all find out that patch carries a trojan horse? :P
(providing you mean THAT kind of patch haha)
What happens with FCP since it is not 64bit (WTF Apple)? Will it run? What about quicktime, is it 64bit?
So, how long till there is a patch for the trial version? Time to start taking bets?
There's already a key-generator. They're still working on making a fix for calling home to Adobe. Will be done by next week. As of now you can use CS5 if you're not connected to the net. Only a few more days.
This is so funny it makes me weak, half your sales come from Mac users and your interface still looks like windows like in nature. I will not reply to William G , since it is not that he does not get it, he just does not understand and thats why he will never get it.
Good business sense is to cover your majority of users buying your product.
Where would Apple be without Adobe, were it is right now, saying a BIG screw you to Flash and btw MS are joining the 'Screw you Flash" team.
The only products that were half decent from a UI point of view were the old Macromedia ones.
Alas they have been Adobified now.
Amen. Macromedia sadly is now wholly erased.
I hit the limit early last year, when Apple kept swapping my CPU out rather than replacing it.
Now whenever I purchase a new machine, I need to go begging to Adobe to get an override code. Why do I feel like I'm begging when I purchased the fecking software?