... NPD's figures are based on sales data from more than 150,000 completed online consumer research surveys ...
This part is important not to forget though.
Surveys are not a good source of sales figures. This whole thing is based on those "How many devices based on Android did you buy this year?" kind of questions. People lie on those things. A lot.
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Its probably inevitable that the hardware with android or microsoft versions will catch up to Apple, just like the PC's in the 90's. IMO(as an original mac128K/SE owner way back when)- it hasn't been till the most recent powerbooks, that warrented a second look.
That said, I do like my iphone. After the contract is up in another year... will have to see whats out there. Just how much more stuff/innovation can be stuffed into a handset that has 'added value'(yes it is a vague statement)... for the average user? Main drawback of iphone... traveling about with ATT, definately not up to Verizon coverage. would like a better camera (use it quite often actually, very handy).
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Because the Spirit jailbreak is hard...
The only people that genuinely feel restricted by the platform are also capable of jailbreaking their iPhone so I find it hard to believe that many people actually switch for this reason.
In other news, this advantage will be short lived. I do expect Android devices to consistently outsell iPhone OS devices at some point, but the new iPhone will still blow away Android sales when it launches.
iPhone OS would be open for use by other phone manufacturers Droid would not exist.
That is not the problem. If that's the case then the iPod wouldn't be dominating the mp3 market for the past decade.
Not having the iPhone on Verizon, much less all carriers, for the past 3 years is basically the equivalent of not having iTunes on Windows. The iPod would have never been dominant if Windows users couldn't use it.
There is an extent to which you will get carrier switchers. Most will not dump their carrier for an iPhone if they have a tough time making calls.
Exactly. Who in their right mind will buy a 3GS now that the 4thG is on its way? Unless, Apple drops the price dramatically.
Also, when Verizon gives one Android away for free for every one purchased, it is easy to double the share.
I am fascinated by the amount of power the QUANTITY calculation has - but equally amazed that little or no focus is ever on the investment quality of the quantity.
having the most sold.. all those models at very little profit versus the limited number of variations there are in Apples phone line-up are breathtaking. The bottom line profit or ROI on each phone versus multiple venders with no economy of scale and 2 for 1 deals beating the iphone in sales is .. well can i say unequivocally irrelevant? The iphone has economy of scale.. it has market share to guarantee all adopters from early to late.. and it has a life cycle guaranteed by a contract.. Apple also has a loyal customer base that will return again for an upgrade later on. Now, will the android customer be hopping into another Motorola phone in two years or.. another android phone from HTC or.. ?
Now, when they start entering the peak of the pyramid where profits and leadership reside. that is another matter.. but that isn't what this statistic is saying AT ALL.
I respect the volume of sales of google phones.. but .. investing in Google needs to be more than their efforts IN phones.. and investing in MOT.. or HTC.. well.. that just won't compare with 63% profit increases in the first half of Apples fiscal year .. over last year.. and around $14 in fiscal earnings coming for September.. (without the ipad) if they maintain current growth - which seems possible right now..
so, why all the fuss about volume? I guess it is meaningful because .. this is a "mine is bigger than yours" macho business? NO, it is the ongoing piss poor reporting that is mindless in the sense that it .. it .. it .. has no meaning except that now someone can say mine is bigger than yours.. or the sum of the parts are bigger than yours.. or the
Are they taking into account iPhone OS running on iPads recently? that device will only serve to boost iPhone OS market share that should eclipse the Android OS.
this study is so false! they are comparing the entire Android-based phone division to a single phone? Its funny how there is only one phone on the market with iPhone OS, but like 20 different types of Android phones?
this is so bogus. As an iPhone owner, I feel insulted.
Are they taking into account iPhone OS running on iPads recently? that device will only serve to boost iPhone OS market share that should eclipse the Android OS.
I believe they are only counting iPhones. Not the iPad or iPod Touch.
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
I hope everyone who does not like the iPhone or any Apple product switches to their desired iPhone or whatever company is compatible with their taste, ideology or whatever matters to one's decision making whenever a purchase is made.
Then those who made their choices must spend their time influencing the companies of their choice.
Just curious:
Did you not know beforehand that Apple is always very controlling? Or is this a recent epiphany for you?
When did you buy your iPhone? Why did you buy an iPhone?
When did the first Android phone come out?
Just for the record. I like the iPhone quite a lot. I have had many chances to play with the iPhone. But, I did not buy an iPhone yet, not because I have no choice if I bought an iPhone. When it is relevant to the topic here, I may share insights as to why until now, I have not bought an iPhone.
This is not directed specifically for you: If I feel I have not use for a device, I do not waste my time in sites telling other people why I do not like it. Or lecture those people in those other sites that they must be idiots, fanbois, etc. because they made a choice or think differently than I do. I do not waste my time speculating why they chose one product or another.
Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.
yeah thats why. it doesnt have anything to do with people being sick of apples crap and the newest android phones being miles better at the same price point. couldn't be that.
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... Oh well, I think Steve is just grooming Apple for purchase/merger to Google anyway.
Well, it's nice to see that you are no less delusional as SpotOn than you were as MacTripper.
... NPD's figures are based on sales data from more than 150,000 completed online consumer research surveys ...
This part is important not to forget though.
Surveys are not a good source of sales figures. This whole thing is based on those "How many devices based on Android did you buy this year?" kind of questions. People lie on those things. A lot.
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Good luck!
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Its probably inevitable that the hardware with android or microsoft versions will catch up to Apple, just like the PC's in the 90's. IMO(as an original mac128K/SE owner way back when)- it hasn't been till the most recent powerbooks, that warrented a second look.
That said, I do like my iphone. After the contract is up in another year... will have to see whats out there. Just how much more stuff/innovation can be stuffed into a handset that has 'added value'(yes it is a vague statement)... for the average user? Main drawback of iphone... traveling about with ATT, definately not up to Verizon coverage. would like a better camera (use it quite often actually, very handy).
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Because the Spirit jailbreak is hard...
The only people that genuinely feel restricted by the platform are also capable of jailbreaking their iPhone so I find it hard to believe that many people actually switch for this reason.
In other news, this advantage will be short lived. I do expect Android devices to consistently outsell iPhone OS devices at some point, but the new iPhone will still blow away Android sales when it launches.
iPhone OS would be open for use by other phone manufacturers Droid would not exist.
That is not the problem. If that's the case then the iPod wouldn't be dominating the mp3 market for the past decade.
Not having the iPhone on Verizon, much less all carriers, for the past 3 years is basically the equivalent of not having iTunes on Windows. The iPod would have never been dominant if Windows users couldn't use it.
There is an extent to which you will get carrier switchers. Most will not dump their carrier for an iPhone if they have a tough time making calls.
Exactly. Who in their right mind will buy a 3GS now that the 4thG is on its way? Unless, Apple drops the price dramatically.
Also, when Verizon gives one Android away for free for every one purchased, it is easy to double the share.
I am fascinated by the amount of power the QUANTITY calculation has - but equally amazed that little or no focus is ever on the investment quality of the quantity.
having the most sold.. all those models at very little profit versus the limited number of variations there are in Apples phone line-up are breathtaking. The bottom line profit or ROI on each phone versus multiple venders with no economy of scale and 2 for 1 deals beating the iphone in sales is .. well can i say unequivocally irrelevant? The iphone has economy of scale.. it has market share to guarantee all adopters from early to late.. and it has a life cycle guaranteed by a contract.. Apple also has a loyal customer base that will return again for an upgrade later on. Now, will the android customer be hopping into another Motorola phone in two years or.. another android phone from HTC or.. ?
Now, when they start entering the peak of the pyramid where profits and leadership reside. that is another matter.. but that isn't what this statistic is saying AT ALL.
I respect the volume of sales of google phones.. but .. investing in Google needs to be more than their efforts IN phones.. and investing in MOT.. or HTC.. well.. that just won't compare with 63% profit increases in the first half of Apples fiscal year .. over last year.. and around $14 in fiscal earnings coming for September.. (without the ipad) if they maintain current growth - which seems possible right now..
so, why all the fuss about volume? I guess it is meaningful because .. this is a "mine is bigger than yours" macho business? NO, it is the ongoing piss poor reporting that is mindless in the sense that it .. it .. it .. has no meaning except that now someone can say mine is bigger than yours.. or the sum of the parts are bigger than yours.. or the
oh i give up..
D
this is so bogus. As an iPhone owner, I feel insulted.
the new cheap cellphone market range...
See all these ads a-la buy one for $99.99, this sunday only, and get one free after mailing rebate, conditions apply...
Are they taking into account iPhone OS running on iPads recently? that device will only serve to boost iPhone OS market share that should eclipse the Android OS.
I believe they are only counting iPhones. Not the iPad or iPod Touch.
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
Enjoy your Android phone.
You will be back.
and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.
I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice
I hope everyone who does not like the iPhone or any Apple product switches to their desired iPhone or whatever company is compatible with their taste, ideology or whatever matters to one's decision making whenever a purchase is made.
Then those who made their choices must spend their time influencing the companies of their choice.
Just curious:
- Did you not know beforehand that Apple is always very controlling? Or is this a recent epiphany for you?
- When did you buy your iPhone? Why did you buy an iPhone?
- When did the first Android phone come out?
Just for the record. I like the iPhone quite a lot. I have had many chances to play with the iPhone. But, I did not buy an iPhone yet, not because I have no choice if I bought an iPhone. When it is relevant to the topic here, I may share insights as to why until now, I have not bought an iPhone.This is not directed specifically for you: If I feel I have not use for a device, I do not waste my time in sites telling other people why I do not like it. Or lecture those people in those other sites that they must be idiots, fanbois, etc. because they made a choice or think differently than I do. I do not waste my time speculating why they chose one product or another.
CGC
Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.
yeah thats why. it doesnt have anything to do with people being sick of apples crap and the newest android phones being miles better at the same price point. couldn't be that.
That is because android phones now officially replace Nokia crap in
the new cheap cellphone market range...
See all these ads a-la buy one for $99.99, this sunday only, and get one free after mailing rebate, conditions apply...
Nokia is not that bad, i have an iPhone and 6700 nokia. Its a good cellphone (but yep, it wan't 99.99 when i bought it more like 349)
I believe they are only counting iPhones. Not the iPad or iPod Touch.
The iPad and Touch certainly add to Apples overall OS share.
What is the Moto Droids share by itself? Probably not much to brag about. Won't even get into the Nexus One share.
Time for Apple to get on more than the worst network in the United States.
PLEASE be right about that!