Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
I would like to fully align myself with your comments.
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Originally Posted by ghostface147
FaceTime is a joke for the vast majority. There are niches that it will serve very well, as proven in this article. What's the other niche? FacePorn.
I always like reading what people who speak for "the vast majority" have to say. How do you know this is a joke for the majority? Have you conducted a poll?
When I travel on business, which is frequently, I would love to be able to actually see my wife when I call her, rather than just talking to her.
I'm not deaf nor hearing impaired, or have any good friends or family that are. But this stuff chokes me up. Even the commercial from June.
It just seems like the simple communication world is really opening up for the rather large subset of humanity that is out there.
It would be sweet, with lots of hurdles I'm sure, if FaceTime could be made available not just on wi-fi, but over 3G etc. to those that require it for daily communication. But it would be right.
I'm glad I'm not the only one chocking up....
Plus, it will probably be easier for our older generation than a webcam to be able to communicate since some are still scared of technology.
Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
I know several deaf people. None of them own cell phones. A pager makes more sense.
I know several Deaf people as well, and they all have cell phones. My ASL teacher in particular is extremely exited about iPhone 4, as both she and her husband are Deaf.
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
When 'texting' was first launched, everyone said, "why would you type out a message when you could just call". Now, the same thing is going to happen with FaceTime.
@OllieWallyWhiskers - man, you must feel like a total jerk about right now. What a horribly insensitive thing to say. Sending a text is nothing like making a phone call just like listening to a sporting event on the radio is nothing like watching it on TV. Think before you speak, my fine whiskered poster. It's not too late to just say, "You're right guys, my bad."
Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
great post! Even better use of the technology. Go Apple! It definitely humanizes the experience of a phone conversation.
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
Well, that is true...but there are also those who are not deaf, yet have a lesser ability to hear...and some of these people do not mind the term "hearing impaired."
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
Didn't realize that. I only know three people (personally) who are deaf and none of them are bothered by that term. But thanks for the FYI. Definitely don't want to insult anyone.
Well, that is true...but there are also those who are not deaf, yet have a lesser ability to hear...and some of these people do not mind the term "hearing impaired."
Actually, the correct term is "hard of hearing."
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Didn't realize that. I only know three people (personally) who are deaf and none of them are bothered by that term. But thanks for the FYI. Definitely don't want to insult anyone.
Glad to let you know.
I'm sure there are some Deaf people out there who don't mind "Hearing Impaired," but as far as Deaf Culture is concerned, "Hard of Hearing" is the preferred term.
Deaf people were some of the first to start texting. My Deaf Culture teacher was Deaf and she was part of a kind of test group to see how well texting would go over with people. Since Deaf people were initially ideal subjects, she was part of the test. After that, texting on different devices became mainstream. I believe she did this while she attended Gallaudet.
I'm sure there are some Deaf people out there who don't mind "Hearing Impaired," but as far as Deaf Culture is concerned, "Hard of Hearing" is the preferred term.
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This is categorically false, if you view the disability exclusively pathologically, you could get away with it, however, anthropologically, Deaf is BY FAR the more appropriate answer.
9.9 times out of 10, people will call themselves deaf and by proud of it.
source: i was born in a deaf family, i have my degree in "deaf culture studies", my job as a sign language interpreter (certified), I could go on and on.
This is categorically false, if you view the disability exclusively pathologically, you could get away with it, however, anthropologically, Deaf is BY FAR the more appropriate answer.
9.9 times out of 10, people will call themselves deaf and by proud of it.
source: i was born in a deaf family, i have my degree in "deaf culture studies", my job as a sign language interpreter (certified), I could go on and on.
It is not just a matter of degree. An audiologist would say I have a 'moderately profound hearing loss', but powerful hearing aids work well for me. I don't use sign language. I've dealt with a deaf person who did rely on sign language, and we had to communicate via e-mail (a form of texting). I'm aware of the tremendous cultural gap between those who are deaf and those with some hearing.
I was pleasantly surprised when viewing the WWDC keynote speech to see the iPhone 4 Retina Display being used for sign language.
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Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
I would like to fully align myself with your comments.
FaceTime is a joke for the vast majority. There are niches that it will serve very well, as proven in this article. What's the other niche? FacePorn.
I always like reading what people who speak for "the vast majority" have to say. How do you know this is a joke for the majority? Have you conducted a poll?
When I travel on business, which is frequently, I would love to be able to actually see my wife when I call her, rather than just talking to her.
When I travel on business, which is frequently, I would love to be able to actually see my wife when I call her, rather than just talking to her.
Give us a little time to get out of the shot first.
(kidding!)
I'm not deaf nor hearing impaired, or have any good friends or family that are. But this stuff chokes me up. Even the commercial from June.
It just seems like the simple communication world is really opening up for the rather large subset of humanity that is out there.
It would be sweet, with lots of hurdles I'm sure, if FaceTime could be made available not just on wi-fi, but over 3G etc. to those that require it for daily communication. But it would be right.
I'm glad I'm not the only one chocking up....
Plus, it will probably be easier for our older generation than a webcam to be able to communicate since some are still scared of technology.
Give us a little time to get out of the shot first.
(kidding!)
Touche!
Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
Excellent response, well said
Personally I wish they would work together and fix their network so I could make a plain old telephone call...
I know several deaf people. None of them own cell phones. A pager makes more sense.
I know several Deaf people as well, and they all have cell phones. My ASL teacher in particular is extremely exited about iPhone 4, as both she and her husband are Deaf.
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
@OllieWallyWhiskers - man, you must feel like a total jerk about right now. What a horribly insensitive thing to say. Sending a text is nothing like making a phone call just like listening to a sporting event on the radio is nothing like watching it on TV. Think before you speak, my fine whiskered poster.
Right and texting is a very personal experience. I have a deaf cousin who does have a phone to use for texting but but despite that he always says he has never truly used a phone even though he has one. Deaf people communicate well and on a personal level through sign language and seeing and reading someone's lips. I showed him my iPhone and let him experience FaceTime. He loved it so much he went out and bought one and is talking his hearing impaired friends into getting iPhone 4s also. His mom who lives in another state is planning on getting an iPhone for the sole purpose of communicating better and more personally with her son.
Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
great post! Even better use of the technology. Go Apple! It definitely humanizes the experience of a phone conversation.
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
Well, that is true...but there are also those who are not deaf, yet have a lesser ability to hear...and some of these people do not mind the term "hearing impaired."
FYI for others: Deaf people do not appreciate the term "hearing impaired."
Didn't realize that. I only know three people (personally) who are deaf and none of them are bothered by that term. But thanks for the FYI. Definitely don't want to insult anyone.
I think the deaf community will just text like everyone else. Just like they always have.
Dinosaurs like you may, but deaf doesn't mean stupid.
Well, that is true...but there are also those who are not deaf, yet have a lesser ability to hear...and some of these people do not mind the term "hearing impaired."
Actually, the correct term is "hard of hearing."
Didn't realize that. I only know three people (personally) who are deaf and none of them are bothered by that term. But thanks for the FYI. Definitely don't want to insult anyone.
Glad to let you know.
I'm sure there are some Deaf people out there who don't mind "Hearing Impaired," but as far as Deaf Culture is concerned, "Hard of Hearing" is the preferred term.
Deaf people were some of the first to start texting. My Deaf Culture teacher was Deaf and she was part of a kind of test group to see how well texting would go over with people. Since Deaf people were initially ideal subjects, she was part of the test. After that, texting on different devices became mainstream. I believe she did this while she attended Gallaudet.
Actually, the correct term is "hard of hearing."
Glad to let you know.
I'm sure there are some Deaf people out there who don't mind "Hearing Impaired," but as far as Deaf Culture is concerned, "Hard of Hearing" is the preferred term.
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This is categorically false, if you view the disability exclusively pathologically, you could get away with it, however, anthropologically, Deaf is BY FAR the more appropriate answer.
9.9 times out of 10, people will call themselves deaf and by proud of it.
source: i was born in a deaf family, i have my degree in "deaf culture studies", my job as a sign language interpreter (certified), I could go on and on.
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This is categorically false, if you view the disability exclusively pathologically, you could get away with it, however, anthropologically, Deaf is BY FAR the more appropriate answer.
9.9 times out of 10, people will call themselves deaf and by proud of it.
source: i was born in a deaf family, i have my degree in "deaf culture studies", my job as a sign language interpreter (certified), I could go on and on.
It is not just a matter of degree. An audiologist would say I have a 'moderately profound hearing loss', but powerful hearing aids work well for me. I don't use sign language. I've dealt with a deaf person who did rely on sign language, and we had to communicate via e-mail (a form of texting). I'm aware of the tremendous cultural gap between those who are deaf and those with some hearing.
I was pleasantly surprised when viewing the WWDC keynote speech to see the iPhone 4 Retina Display being used for sign language.
...snip...Thank you Mr. Sensitivity for your very insightful and well thought opinion.
Jerk!
LOL