As to the screen itself, please stick with the crisp high resolution IPS displays and ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired. Your primary focus should be on more pixels and increasing dynamic range.
It's not whining, it's common sense. Reflections suck. It's too bad you ruined an otherwise good post with this comment. Experience, my a$$.
ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired.
Thanks, I don't why I assumed my personal experience was valid with respect to matte vs glossy. Now I know better, I should just stop whining, enjoy the pain, and forget the ~10 years of using matte LCD screens without issue.
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD
wow you have used the word "port" way to much to make this a realistic Apple device. Also 6 USB Ports? Don't know how many the current one has but for me 2 are way sufficient. (Have my external harddrives connected to my Airport)
Finally it would be really nice to see LightPeak in the iMac. Copper interconnects like USB3 and FireWire have really hit a dead end. Gives us an iMac update that will have a future. It is not that the faster copper standards won't work, they do to some extent, it's just that you don't want to be buying peripheral hardware built around a deadens tech.
Uhh... USB 3 doesn't just use copper connecters - I believe it has a fibre component or something as well. The copper is there to carry power and provide the backwards compatiabilty to USB 2...
Other than that, I couldn't agree with you more on your other points.
I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
If Apple wants to make iMacs resemble the unibody MacBook Pro styling, then they should make iMacs with a removable back panel to enable easy access to the hard drive and optical drive.
I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
So consumers aren't worthy of a display that doesn't cause excessive eye strain?
A display should last at least twice as long as the computer you buy with it. My kids' LCD has lasted 5 generations of Mac from quicksilver G4 to 2009 Intel mini.
How much are you trying to make this sell for? You're already talking at least $1k for the monitor, another 1k for the cpu, $300 for the GPU and $1300 for the SSD. That's a $3600 system before taking anything else into consideration. Actually filling up with 32GB of RAM would add another few K as well heh.
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I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple put a pro quality IPS display in the current iMac and has a quad core desktop i7 in it. At worst it is considered Pro-Sumer these days. If you don't need the expandability of the current Mac Pro, you can get a great monitor and a faster system for less by buying one of the top end iMacs.
Also, what about the new iMac case being two pieces of black glass (front and back) with a band of aluminum sandwiched between like the iPhone 4?
In retrospect, it would have been better if the new iPhone had been aluminum unibody like the iMac or iPad than having a glass back, which has to be thicker than aluminum to be strong and which serves no purpose anyway.
The only justifiable reason for the iPhone having a glass back would have been if they had put the antenna inside the phone, because the signal could penetrate it more easily than metal. But, no, they had to put the antenna on the outside where any 10-year old who ever used a walkie-talkie could have told them the signal would be interfered with by touching it.
Although I waited expectantly for an iPhone 4, I have now decided to pass. It is the Vista of smartphones.
Triple that. No iMac without BTO matte. 2-3 iMacs right now with matte.
Missed those post before I quadrupled above, why is apple so resistant to these, this is bar far the biggest let down of the whole ecosystem, innumerable iMacs are not sold because of this, us four alone could probably chalk about 50 from our purchase and those of friends and family.
And I am sorry to user wizard but that's some of the biggest garbage I ve heard recently.
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As to the screen itself, please stick with the crisp high resolution IPS displays and ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired. Your primary focus should be on more pixels and increasing dynamic range.
It's not whining, it's common sense. Reflections suck. It's too bad you ruined an otherwise good post with this comment. Experience, my a$$.
ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired.
Thanks, I don't why I assumed my personal experience was valid with respect to matte vs glossy. Now I know better, I should just stop whining, enjoy the pain, and forget the ~10 years of using matte LCD screens without issue.
How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...
30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD
wow you have used the word "port" way to much to make this a realistic Apple device. Also 6 USB Ports? Don't know how many the current one has but for me 2 are way sufficient. (Have my external harddrives connected to my Airport)
BluRay
My last hope is SIGGRAPH next week. Certainly that would be the perfect timing for Apple to announce new Mac Pros!
How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...
30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD
Sure... for $4000.
I hate glossy screens. The best upgrade Apple could do here (and with everything they make that has a screen) is provide a matte screen option.
Agreed. I've bought 20 inch glossy after my first generation Core2Duo White iMac died and I hate it as much as I expected. :-( I want a matte option.
Finally it would be really nice to see LightPeak in the iMac. Copper interconnects like USB3 and FireWire have really hit a dead end. Gives us an iMac update that will have a future. It is not that the faster copper standards won't work, they do to some extent, it's just that you don't want to be buying peripheral hardware built around a deadens tech.
Uhh... USB 3 doesn't just use copper connecters - I believe it has a fibre component or something as well. The copper is there to carry power and provide the backwards compatiabilty to USB 2...
Other than that, I couldn't agree with you more on your other points.
I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
Seconded. I can't buy an iMac until then.
Triple that. No iMac without BTO matte. 2-3 iMacs right now with matte.
If they could figure out how to make it look like a big iPhone that would be one sexy beast!
Isn't a new iMac all but guaranteed to look like a big iPad?
I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
So consumers aren't worthy of a display that doesn't cause excessive eye strain?
A display should last at least twice as long as the computer you buy with it. My kids' LCD has lasted 5 generations of Mac from quicksilver G4 to 2009 Intel mini.
How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...
30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
How much are you trying to make this sell for? You're already talking at least $1k for the monitor, another 1k for the cpu, $300 for the GPU and $1300 for the SSD. That's a $3600 system before taking anything else into consideration. Actually filling up with 32GB of RAM would add another few K as well heh.
I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple put a pro quality IPS display in the current iMac and has a quad core desktop i7 in it. At worst it is considered Pro-Sumer these days. If you don't need the expandability of the current Mac Pro, you can get a great monitor and a faster system for less by buying one of the top end iMacs.
New iMacs already?
They're due. The Core 2 Duo is becoming quite dated.
Also, what about the new iMac case being two pieces of black glass (front and back) with a band of aluminum sandwiched between like the iPhone 4?
In retrospect, it would have been better if the new iPhone had been aluminum unibody like the iMac or iPad than having a glass back, which has to be thicker than aluminum to be strong and which serves no purpose anyway.
The only justifiable reason for the iPhone having a glass back would have been if they had put the antenna inside the phone, because the signal could penetrate it more easily than metal. But, no, they had to put the antenna on the outside where any 10-year old who ever used a walkie-talkie could have told them the signal would be interfered with by touching it.
Although I waited expectantly for an iPhone 4, I have now decided to pass. It is the Vista of smartphones.
Although I waited expectantly for an iPhone 4, I have now decided to pass. It is the Vista of smartphones.
Too bad the people I know who own the iPhone4 don't know that!
I like the iMacs, I like the iPad, I like the iPhone.
Dear Steve,
Please update my Mac Pro!
Thanks
How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...
30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD
What have you been smoking?
What's it going to be apple, I can't handle glare one the iPad, how would I handle it on a 27" screen.
This is one of the disappointments of so many people that can't go away....
Triple that. No iMac without BTO matte. 2-3 iMacs right now with matte.
Missed those post before I quadrupled above, why is apple so resistant to these, this is bar far the biggest let down of the whole ecosystem, innumerable iMacs are not sold because of this, us four alone could probably chalk about 50 from our purchase and those of friends and family.
And I am sorry to user wizard but that's some of the biggest garbage I ve heard recently.