Apple obtains exclusive rights to custom, super-durable metal alloy

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  • Reply 101 of 126
    rabbit_coachrabbit_coach Posts: 1,114member
    Oh my goodness! I know this is very off topic but I just found the most shocking announcement from my mobile provider











    The Retina display on iPhone 4 is the sharpest, most vibrant, highest-resolution phone screen ever, with four times the pixel count of previous iPhone models. In fact, the pixel density is so high that the human eye is unable to distinguish individual pixels.



    This device is currently out of stock. The estimated delivery time is about 10 weeks
  • Reply 102 of 126
    Is it conductive? May be a great fix for the so called Antennagate problem.
  • Reply 103 of 126
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by r00fus View Post


    LOL re: Hurd.



    As to why Apple couldn't buy them: I'm guessing they weren't for sale... not every company behaves Oracle or Microsoft.



    I am sorry to be cynical about this, but there is a price at which just about anything will sell in the US (corporate sector).
  • Reply 104 of 126
    gmhutgmhut Posts: 242member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GQB View Post


    No, its Unobtanium.



    It's not quite as good as Unobtanium, which James Cameron already holds the patents on. I think Apples new acquisition is a rebranding of another alloy called, reallyhardtogetdashitium.
  • Reply 105 of 126
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach View Post


    Oh my goodness! I know this is very off topic but I just found the most shocking announcement from my mobile provider











    The Retina display on iPhone 4 is the sharpest, most vibrant, highest-resolution phone screen ever, with four times the pixel count of previous iPhone models. In fact, the pixel density is so high that the human eye is unable to distinguish individual pixels.



    This device is currently out of stock. The estimated delivery time is about 10 weeks



    Tell me about it. I ordered one online about an hour after it became available in Canada, and it's still going to be a month before they even ship the thing.



    Worse is I've heard a lot of stories about poorly put together iPhones, the odds of getting one that actually works seem kind of small at this point.
  • Reply 106 of 126
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    Tell me about it. I ordered one online about an hour after it became available in Canada, and it's still going to be a month before they even ship the thing.



    Worse is I've heard a lot of stories about poorly put together iPhones, the odds of getting one that actually works seem kind of small at this point.



    Don't let the Internet win! The Internet is an echo chamber of negativity.



    There will be bad units ships, but the likelihood of you getting one seems no higher to me than any other CE on the market. I would even bet other manufacturers have a higher percentage of issues but no one cares enough about most of their products to expect perfection or make a fuss.



    I did have two friends with iPhone 4s that had HW issues but they were replaced right away with functional units, so at the very least you know that Apple will at least stand by and honor their product if you are unlucky enough to grab defective unit
  • Reply 107 of 126
    neutrino23neutrino23 Posts: 1,563member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jb510 View Post


    So how is this likely to play out in Apple's product lines?



    Will this quickly or slowly replace all the aluminum or steel components? Can they mill this stuff like aluminum for unibody cases? What is the material cost in comparison to aluminum?



    This posting reads way to much like a press release and too little like journalism.



    This material is so different from other engineering materials that it is difficult to predict with precision what Apple will do.



    The whole field of material science is huge. For demanding applications you need to consider many factors when using a material. Think of the aluminum can. To make that the right alloy is chosen, the material is thinned and even the crystal structure is altered. Too many parallel grains and the metal will crack when stretched into the shape of a can.



    Think of the steps often involved to make something like a frame or case. The metal is cast, probably heat treated to adjust the crystal structure, it is milled or extruded or bent to the right shape. Holes are drilled and tapped. Excess material is cut away. Rough edges are sanded or otherwise smoothed. Sometimes there are limitations on making things because the alloy of choice can't be bent or stretched as desired and still keep it's strength.



    The claim for this material is that you can do all of this in one step and do it with great precision and the resulting material has all sorts of great properties. That is amazing.
  • Reply 108 of 126
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kyle76 View Post


    Is this the same substance used to make the T-1000 Terminator?





    Yes, Apple will be releasing Skynet 1.0 in January. It works only with Verizon.
  • Reply 109 of 126
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    Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post


    Bouncy? Made transparent like glass? I would be curious what sort of metals or metal alloys have achieved this. At least, I have not encountered any so far. Will be very informative.

    .



    CGC



    Don't you remember how Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott invented transparent aluminum in San Francisco in 1986 using the original Macintosh as chronicled in Star Trek documentary series.



    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminum









    Interesting ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminium
  • Reply 110 of 126
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post


    Bouncy? Made transparent like glass? I would be curious what sort of metals or metal alloys have achieved this. At least, I have not encountered any so far. Will be very informative.

    .



    CGC



    He got it wrong, transparency to light is not a property of amorphous metals. I think he saw the word 'glass' in the Wiki article and thought it implied transparency. Being prone to cracking and shattering like glass is a property.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by brucep View Post


    nice post



    by the by

    all metals are liquid



    No they are not.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post


    Tungsten and tungsten carbide may be too heavy, and costly?





    CGC



    Same for Amorphous Metals - heavy and costly.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ch2co View Post


    But does it make a good antenna?



    Yes.



    I found this and thought it quite interesting:



    Quote:

    As applied to mobile phones it means that it is possible to create unique phone bodies - light and durable at the same time. Of course the price of such phone will exceed the price of the standard handset made from aluminum alloy in 20 or 30 times.



    http://www.mobile-review.com/article...luxury-e.shtml
  • Reply 111 of 126
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    I found this and thought it quite interesting:



    Quote:

    As applied to mobile phones it means that it is possible to create unique phone bodies - light and durable at the same time. Of course the price of such phone will exceed the price of the standard handset made from aluminum alloy in 20 or 30 times.



    http://www.mobile-review.com/article...luxury-e.shtml



    Interesting. One of the benefits Apple reserves of cash and excessive units sales per model compared to any other premium smartphone vendor is their ability to potentially make this viable. Case in point, the increasing number of milled aluminum components. Now in the Mac Mini and iPhone, both of which I still find shocking.



    PS: AnandTech released a review of the new MacMini yesterday. While I don't agree with many of his points about including extras just because or that Mac OS X makes for a great HTPC, he certainly has some great technical data about how committed to being "green" Apple is with a focus on power efficiency. Good review overall, especially Page 8 which how's that even with 2GB RAM it bests a 5yo Mac Pro G5. Craziness!
  • Reply 112 of 126
    cgc0202cgc0202 Posts: 624member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by juanm105 View Post


    Don't you remember how Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott invented transparent aluminum in San Francisco in 1986 using the original Macintosh as chronicled in Star Trek documentary series.



    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminum



    Interesting ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminium



    I am not sure if you are jesting about the first link. Wikipedia is not always acccurate; but, if you read the second link more thoroughly -- focus on the thickness of the material as well as the use of the term "transparency". It is a more technical use of the term of "transparency" with respect to certain forms of radiations only, in the wikipedia article, this would be specific soft X-ray -- not transparency to the entire "light" radiation sprectrum to render objects like glass, plexiglass or certain crystals "light transparent", in a layman's term. Also, the transparency to X-ray, described in the article, was transient (temporary state).



    Most important the material itself is very thin (50nm)***; that is nanometer. Casing materials are around the millimeter (mm) give or take a few micrometers (um) in thickness.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    He got it wrong, transparency to light is not a property of amorphous metals. I think he saw the word 'glass' in the Wiki article and thought it implied transparency. Being prone to cracking and shattering like glass is a property.



    Indeed, I was wondering if there were new "commericially" available transparent metal alloys that I was not aware of, especially as casing materials. So far, if they indeed exist, I have not seen them yet in my "window shoppings".



    CGC



    ***The entire earth, however thick it is, for example is "transparent" to certain subparticles released by stars, like the sun.
  • Reply 113 of 126
    bagmanbagman Posts: 349member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by juanm105 View Post


    Yes, Apple will be releasing Skynet 1.0 in January. It works only with Verizon.



    OMG! When the Verizon iPhone is announced, Skynet will make all iPhones SELF-AWARE, and they will network with each other (similar to the "Colossus, the Forbin Project"), and both Verizon and ATT will wipe out humanity, first by iPodding them whilst they sleep, Mac Attacking them at work, and iPadding their brains with digital overload. Switch to Android if you value your life, pretend you are Droids, and you will be spared.
  • Reply 114 of 126
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bagman View Post


    Skynet will make all iPhones SELF-AWARE, and they will network with each other



    Sorry to disillusion you, but the only 'awareness' iPhones possess, is the current location of your wallet and how best to siphon off the contents.
  • Reply 115 of 126
    Forget about LiquidMetal, Mithril, Adamantium or Unobtanium. Everyone nows Laconia makes the strongest ones until you can equip you and your team with the full set of NeiMac, NeiPhone, NeiPod and NeiPad.
  • Reply 116 of 126
    jahonenjahonen Posts: 364member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post


    Android will always lose when it comes to hardware. HTC & others are only interesting in offering things they can sell as features, even if they don't work properly for as little cost as possible. They're not interested in making the best product possible..



    Except: http://www.liquidmetal.com/SamsungEgo.pdf



    Remember the "Never say never!"?



    Regs, Jarkko
  • Reply 117 of 126
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Interesting. One of the benefits Apple reserves of cash and excessive units sales per model compared to any other premium smartphone vendor is their ability to potentially make this viable. Case in point, the increasing number of milled aluminum components. Now in the Mac Mini and iPhone, both of which I still find shocking.



    I don't think Apple have in mind to use amorphous metals for large scale components like casings, they are way too addicted to their hefty profit margins. They are not in the habit of trading profit for technological leadership.



    I think it more likely they have in mind, very highly stressed, small sub components that can be formed by injection molding instead of machining. Apple always seems to strive to reduce costs, not increase them. If you just want scratch resistance and a durable finish, ceramics are probably a much cheaper and lighter alternative. The Rado watch springs to mind.
  • Reply 118 of 126
    Hmm, it all begins to make sense. The moment that Steve uploads his conciousness into Apple Skynet, he will make his move and will take over the world. In the meantime Apple is subplanting all world leaders with Terminators. I already thought that the governor of California couldn't be the real Arnie
  • Reply 119 of 126
    kyle76kyle76 Posts: 54member
    I love the context-specific ads on this website. The one I am seeing now is for metallurgical testing. Not exactly what you would expect on an Apple discussion board.
  • Reply 120 of 126
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gunner1954 View Post


    If you combine Zr-alloy with Corning Gorilla Glass do you get ?Transparent aluminum?? (Anyone still remember Star Trek?)



    "Star Trek: Save the Whales", sure...
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