No, they were thinking of you. "Let's release some basically meaningless numbers. Wes will think it means something, even if no one else would".
And apple thinks of you when they release meaningless numbers. I mean, they know apple fanboys will think it means something even if no one else would.
See, we can continue this all day if you want.
Curious, why do apple fanboys assume google had apple in mind?. Google was responding to people who were curious how much they were making in mobile space (i know i was one of those people).. do you think google cares if apple is making a trillion from their mobile business? (maybe they do in terms of wanting to take away some of that revenue) but google did not release these numbers to stick its tongue out at apple.. apple fans are personalizing this news.
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Actually, you are totally right here. And that is why google announcing that the think they might earn $1billion over the next year based on one quarters results is meaningless.
Ok, when apple announces their revenue, i expect to see you in this forum calling it meaningless.. It's not meaningless. It's meaningless for a comparison IF GOOGLE INTENTION WAS TO COMPARE WITH APPLE. Are you guys literate?. Take a deep breath.
The numbers indicate that they are generating revenue from their mobile space and it indicates a significant amount of revenue. Their cost is fixed (or at least a very small portion of revenue). This news is to indicate that their mobile business is healthy and that their business strategy is sound. Google stock price does not depend on how well apple does, it depends on how well they do so why should they care if you can compare their numbers with apple?
I found the above observation most interesting, since iOS devices are still said to well outnumber Android devices. It all makes sense, though, when the most frequent query is revealed: "How do you upgrade this thing?"
Ah good one. I was wondering about that too.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Search queries from mobile devices have grown 5 times over the last couple of years, with most of the queries coming from Android phones, Rosenberg noted.
I was reading this article at Macworld where iOS is way ahead of Android in web usage but maybe iPhone users just don't use that much search. It still seems a little fishy though.
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Just my $.02.
hmm, i bet you never stole music in your life or watched the occasional free movie (cause that would be stealing from someone and being a leech).
Ok, when apple announces their revenue, i expect to see you in this forum calling it meaningless.. It's not meaningless. It's meaningless for a comparison IF GOOGLE INTENTION WAS TO COMPARE WITH APPLE. Are you guys literate?. Take a deep breath.
The numbers indicate that they are generating revenue from their mobile space and it indicates a significant amount of revenue. Their cost is fixed (or at least a very small portion of revenue). This news is to indicate that their mobile business is healthy and that their business strategy is sound. Google stock price does not depend on how well apple does, it depends on how well they do so why should they care if you can compare their numbers with apple?
I would. But when Apple releases their statements, I expect they include profits and margins. I have not once mentioned Apple in this thread, so I am not sure where you are getting that.
I would. But when Apple releases their statements, I expect they include profits and margins. I have not once mentioned Apple in this thread, so I am not sure where you are getting that.
Are you a newbie to this forum?. Apple has previously announced numbers right?. Mind sharing a link where you called those numbers meaningless?. If apple announced revenues of 100 billion tomorrow, would that be meaningless just cause you don't know how much is profit?. I wish i could have income tomorrow of 1 Billion. I'd like you to tell me it's meaningless just cause you don't know what my electric bill is. In fact, i tell you what. I have an old car to sell.. why don't you give me 20,000 meaningless dollars for it (i promise, not to tell you what it cost me). Forget 1 Billion. I can sure appreciate 20,000 meaningless dollars about right now. I have a vacation spot already picked out.
And are you paraphrasing Jesus Christ's statements in John 8:7? If so, perhaps they deserve thought by both of us?
Of course i would lose my bet. I was being sarcastic. you were being so high and mighty about those that use ad-blockers yet you have stolen music.. hmmmm... you have a problem with people getting content for free but you getting music or movies for free is ok?....
Are you a newbie to this forum?. Apple has previously announced numbers right?. Mind sharing a link where you called those numbers meaningless?. If apple announced revenues of 100 billion tomorrow, would that be meaningless just cause you don't know how much is profit?. I wish i could have income tomorrow of 1 Billion. I'd like you to tell me it's meaningless just cause you don't know what my electric bill is. In fact, i tell you what. I have an old car to sell.. why don't you give me 20,000 meaningless dollars for it (i promise, not to tell you what it cost me). Forget 1 Billion. I can sure appreciate 20,000 meaningless dollars about right now. I have a vacation spot already picked out.
Find a link where Apple released as meaningless numbers and it is quite likely I called them meaningless. I have no problem criticizing Apple when suitable.
I am not a newbie, but I'm not around as much these days. I have been here long enough to remember you and your trolling habits. Wasn't it just last year you were trying to bolster your arguments by claiming to be a software developer that could out-program Apple engineers? I believe at the time I called you out as an IT Specialist at IBM's equivalent of Kelly Temporary Placement Services for IT, if I recall correctly, which it seems today you have accidently admitted to. Come on Wesley, we should at least be able to expect honesty in your posts, otherwise what value do they have?
Anyhow, whether it is Apple or Google releasing meaningless numbers, meaningless is meaningless. It is silly for you to even try to wrangle anything worthwhile from them. They accomplished what they were intended for. You are proof of that.
I was reading this article at Macworld where iOS is way ahead of Android in web usage but maybe iPhone users just don't use that much search. It still seems a little fishy though.
One thing that is difficult to quantify is that many apps:
-- replace web searches - maps for instance
-- use intermediate server-based apps to search/harvest web content
-- use search replacements - RSS, Twitter, etc.
I do a lot of web browsing on my iPad and iPhone -- but very seldom do a search .
Find a link where Apple released as meaningless numbers and it is quite likely I called them meaningless. I have no problem criticizing Apple when suitable.
I am not a newbie, but I'm not around as much these days. I have been here long enough to remember you and your trolling habits. Wasn't it just last year you were trying to bolster your arguments by claiming to be a software developer that could out-program Apple engineers? I believe at the time I called you out as an IT Specialist at IBM's equivalent of Kelly Temporary Placement Services for IT, if I recall correctly, which it seems today you have accidently admitted to. Come on Wesley, we should at least be able to expect honesty in your posts, otherwise what value do they have?
Anyhow, whether it is Apple or Google releasing meaningless numbers, meaningless is meaningless. It is silly for you to even try to wrangle anything worthwhile from them. They accomplished what they were intended for. You are proof of that.
Yes, i am proof because google was up all night thinking about how to persuade me.
As to the other stuff.. quite likely you called out apple?.. i doubt it. You better be wearing flame retardant suit. Apple fanboys don't like people calling out apple numbers.
As to out programming apple engineers.. i do believe in my talent. Frankly, i don't give a shit if you do or not so that is irrelevant here. I'm not sure what you think i admitted to but whatever.
But for your reading pleasure
Link to J.P Morgan talking about apple revenue without discussing profit. Please try to find the apple fanboy calling those numbers meaningless.
Another link talks about revenue and earnings per share (which is not the same as profit)
again, no mention of profit but i was hard pressed to find anyone calling these numbers meaningless. In fact, i saw a lot of post basically saying "awesome". Now, remember, before you insult all other apple fanboys, get that flame retardant suit out of the closet.
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Just my $.02.
But you're not actually doing anything favorable to Nissan (the ad that I see above right now) by clicking on the ad. Nissan doesn't care about clicks unless it eventually converts you into buying a car. Functionally speaking, you're not helping AI get paid unless you're clicking ads with the intention of buying.
But you're not actually doing anything favorable to Nissan (the ad that I see above right now) by clicking on the ad. Nissan doesn't care about clicks unless it eventually converts you into buying a car. Functionally speaking, you're not helping AI get paid unless you're clicking ads with the intention of buying.
Well now, to be fair to him, it's possible Nissan pays regardless of whether he buys.. how would they know he bought a car later on? and even if he did, how would they know it was because he saw that particular ad on appleinsider (i've never had a car dealer ask me if i saw their ad and where).. i guess it's possible Nissan would keep track of that..
I'm thinking though, not all advertisers keep track of that stuff.. just like on tv.. advertisers pay regardless of whether you buy. I'm sure foxnews or nbc or whoever does not wait until you buy to get paid.
Yes, i am proof because google was up all night thinking about how to persuade me.
As to the other stuff.. quite likely you called out apple?.. i doubt it. You better be wearing flame retardant suit. Apple fanboys don't like people calling out apple numbers.
As to out programming apple engineers.. i do believe in my talent. Frankly, i don't give a shit if you do or not so that is irrelevant here. I'm not sure what you think i admitted to but whatever.
But for your reading pleasure
Link to J.P Morgan talking about apple revenue without discussing profit. Please try to find the apple fanboy calling those numbers meaningless.
Another link talks about revenue and earnings per share (which is not the same as profit)
again, no mention of profit but i was hard pressed to find anyone calling these numbers meaningless. In fact, i saw a lot of post basically saying "awesome". Now, remember, before you insult all other apple fanboys, get that flame retardant suit out of the closet.
1) The JP Morgan article was an analysts prediction, not Apple's, so not really comparable to Google itself releasing a meaningless projection of 1 year of revenue from one stream.
2) The second link was about Apple's statement, including profit growth and unit sales...you know, an earnings report.
3) What you think about your skill is irrelevant. You claimed you worked as an [IBM] developer and denied emphatically that you were in IT (actually, I think you said it was insulting to even say that). Today you demonstrated more honesty than you intended when you admitted to be an IT consultant.
4) yes, I am well aware of how overly sensitive some Apple fans can to to even a perception of criticism of Apple, regardless of it being deserved. That doesn't make the trolls that visit Apple fan sites to bait them any more mature or worthwhile as human beings. Especially the personally dishonest ones.
Well now, to be fair to him, it's possible Nissan pays regardless of whether he buys.. how would they know he bought a car later on? and even if he did, how would they know it was because he saw that particular ad on appleinsider (i've never had a car dealer ask me if i saw their ad and where).. i guess it's possible Nissan would keep track of that..
I'm thinking though, not all advertisers keep track of that stuff
You can probably bet paychecks that this last line is incorrect and they (or their ad agency for them) track it very thoroughly.
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advertisers pay regardless of whether you buy. I'm sure foxnews or nbc or whoever does not wait until you buy to get paid.
Actually, advertisers pay only because they know that you (Joe Consumer) will buy.
If they advertised and it did nothing for sales, they would not advertise.
Likely they don't know the specifics of which person is buying what (unless you fill out the "product registration" card and send it in) but there is a LOT of demographics on who buys what and how advertising affects sales.
Walmart has the largest consumer demographics database in the world and could tell you more info about what your purchase habits are than even you know.
Google was able to announce $1 billion in mobile revenue for one single reason; People buy when they see ads.
1) The JP Morgan article was an analysts prediction, not Apple's, so not really comparable to Google itself releasing a meaningless projection of 1 year of revenue from one stream.
2) The second link was about Apple's statement, including profit growth and unit sales...you know, an earnings report.
3) What you think about your skill is irrelevant. You claimed you worked as an [IBM] developer and denied emphatically that you were in IT (actually, I think you said it was insulting to even say that). Today you demonstrated more honesty than you intended when you admitted to be an IT consultant.
4) yes, I am well aware of how overly sensitive some Apple fans can to to even a perception of criticism of Apple, regardless of it being deserved. That doesn't make the trolls that visit Apple fan sites to bait them any more mature or worthwhile as human beings. Especially the personally dishonest ones.
1. You made my point. Apple fans should have even been more eager to slam the numbers because it did not come from apple yet they all praised it
2. profit growth is not the same as profit.. common, you are a smart guy, you know that. If i spent 1 million and earned 1 million and 1 dollar one year, then spent 1 million and earned 1 million 2 dollars the next year, that's a profit growth of 100 percent. Profit growth is even more meaningless than revenue. You should really go to that forum topic and point that out.
3. when did i ever deny i was in IT?. please provide the link.
4. Now you are calling me dishonest.. ok, well you are a hyprocrite and a liar. Lets stop discussing and start calling each other names cause that's how we learn.
Here is a more recent link for you to go criticize. It's not from apple yet apple fans seem to enjoy these numbers... you should go educate them how meaningless the numbers are
1. You made my point. Apple fans should have even been more eager to slam the numbers because it did not come from apple yet they all praised it
2. profit growth is not the same as profit.. common, you are a smart guy, you know that. If i spent 1 million and earned 1 million and 1 dollar one year, then spent 1 million and earned 1 million 2 dollars the next year, that's a profit growth of 100 percent. Profit growth is even more meaningless than revenue. You should really go to that forum topic and point that out.
3. when did i ever deny i was in IT?. please provide the link.
4. Now you are calling me dishonest.. ok, well you are a hyprocrite and a liar. Lets stop discussing and start calling each other names cause that's how we learn.
Here is a more recent link for you to go criticize. It's not from apple yet apple fans seem to enjoy these numbers... you should go educate them how meaningless the numbers are
1) Why, external analysts can say whatever they want. It isn't Apple saying it, so why would I criticize Apple for what JP Morgan said?
2) Profit growth is a important part of an earning statement, allowing investors to analyze the trajectory of the company. It has meaning. Don't you get that? Also, the earnings statement from Apple in that case included profit (and margins). AI's story mentioned only the profit growth because it by itself was so incredible.
Now, if we were going to be totally honest, working for IBM in their IT Services division where you are sourced out to other companies is a decent gig, but it is a placement service. One might say they work for Kelly Services, but they don't really. They work for whomever called looking for a body. It's the craigslist of IT (and certainly in no way related to IBM software development any more than the janitor at my work is related to our development).
4) I don't have to call you dishonest. Your posts speak for themselves. I would, however, suggest that dishonestly doesn't bolster your posts. It will, in fact, make them look ever weaker.
1) Why, external analysts can say whatever they want. It isn't Apple saying it, so why would I criticize Apple for what JP Morgan said?
2) Profit growth is a important part of an earning statement, allowing investors to analyze the trajectory of the company. It has meaning. Don't you get that? Also, the earnings statement from Apple in that case included profit (and margins). AI's story mentioned only the profit growth because it by itself was so incredible.
Now, if we were going to be totally honest, working for IBM in their IT Services division where you are sourced out to other companies is a decent gig, but it is a placement service. One might say they work for Kelly Services, but they don't really. They work for whomever called looking for a body. It's the craigslist of IT (and certainly in no way related to IBM software development any more than the janitor at my work is related to our development).
4) I don't have to call you dishonest. Your posts speak for themselves. I would, however, suggest that dishonestly doesn't bolster your posts. It will, in fact, make them look ever weaker.
Have a dutty day wes.
1. I did nto say criutize apple.. i said to state that the numbers are meaningless. Are you dense?
2, Profit growth is useless. it's a meaningless number. It means nothing to me.
3. Do you know what IT consultant means?. It's a generic term. Dude, buy a clue. An architect is an IT consultant, a Software Developer is an IT consultant. IT stands for information technology. all Apple software developers are in the Information Technology field. Buy a clue or ask someone who knows before you open your mouth.
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No, they were thinking of you. "Let's release some basically meaningless numbers. Wes will think it means something, even if no one else would".
And apple thinks of you when they release meaningless numbers. I mean, they know apple fanboys will think it means something even if no one else would.
See, we can continue this all day if you want.
Curious, why do apple fanboys assume google had apple in mind?. Google was responding to people who were curious how much they were making in mobile space (i know i was one of those people).. do you think google cares if apple is making a trillion from their mobile business? (maybe they do in terms of wanting to take away some of that revenue) but google did not release these numbers to stick its tongue out at apple.. apple fans are personalizing this news.
That's what Ad Blocker software is for.
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Just my $.02.
Actually, you are totally right here. And that is why google announcing that the think they might earn $1billion over the next year based on one quarters results is meaningless.
Ok, when apple announces their revenue, i expect to see you in this forum calling it meaningless.. It's not meaningless. It's meaningless for a comparison IF GOOGLE INTENTION WAS TO COMPARE WITH APPLE. Are you guys literate?. Take a deep breath.
The numbers indicate that they are generating revenue from their mobile space and it indicates a significant amount of revenue. Their cost is fixed (or at least a very small portion of revenue). This news is to indicate that their mobile business is healthy and that their business strategy is sound. Google stock price does not depend on how well apple does, it depends on how well they do so why should they care if you can compare their numbers with apple?
I found the above observation most interesting, since iOS devices are still said to well outnumber Android devices. It all makes sense, though, when the most frequent query is revealed: "How do you upgrade this thing?"
Ah good one. I was wondering about that too.
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Search queries from mobile devices have grown 5 times over the last couple of years, with most of the queries coming from Android phones, Rosenberg noted.
I was reading this article at Macworld where iOS is way ahead of Android in web usage but maybe iPhone users just don't use that much search. It still seems a little fishy though.
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Just my $.02.
hmm, i bet you never stole music in your life or watched the occasional free movie (cause that would be stealing from someone and being a leech).
Ok, when apple announces their revenue, i expect to see you in this forum calling it meaningless.. It's not meaningless. It's meaningless for a comparison IF GOOGLE INTENTION WAS TO COMPARE WITH APPLE. Are you guys literate?. Take a deep breath.
The numbers indicate that they are generating revenue from their mobile space and it indicates a significant amount of revenue. Their cost is fixed (or at least a very small portion of revenue). This news is to indicate that their mobile business is healthy and that their business strategy is sound. Google stock price does not depend on how well apple does, it depends on how well they do so why should they care if you can compare their numbers with apple?
I would. But when Apple releases their statements, I expect they include profits and margins. I have not once mentioned Apple in this thread, so I am not sure where you are getting that.
hmm, i bet you never stole music in your life or watched the occasional free movie (cause that would be stealing from someone and being a leech).
You would lose your bet.
And are you paraphrasing Jesus Christ's statements in John 8:7? If so, perhaps they deserve thought by both of us?
I would. But when Apple releases their statements, I expect they include profits and margins. I have not once mentioned Apple in this thread, so I am not sure where you are getting that.
Are you a newbie to this forum?. Apple has previously announced numbers right?. Mind sharing a link where you called those numbers meaningless?. If apple announced revenues of 100 billion tomorrow, would that be meaningless just cause you don't know how much is profit?. I wish i could have income tomorrow of 1 Billion. I'd like you to tell me it's meaningless just cause you don't know what my electric bill is. In fact, i tell you what. I have an old car to sell.. why don't you give me 20,000 meaningless dollars for it (i promise, not to tell you what it cost me). Forget 1 Billion. I can sure appreciate 20,000 meaningless dollars about right now. I have a vacation spot already picked out.
You would lose your bet.
And are you paraphrasing Jesus Christ's statements in John 8:7? If so, perhaps they deserve thought by both of us?
Of course i would lose my bet. I was being sarcastic. you were being so high and mighty about those that use ad-blockers yet you have stolen music.. hmmmm... you have a problem with people getting content for free but you getting music or movies for free is ok?....
Has anyone ever clicked on a mobile ad?
Like on purpose. Not by accident.
C.
Yes! iAds! Some are quite good! There still aren't a lot of them, though!
As a developer, I provide for iAds in some of my apps.
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Are you a newbie to this forum?. Apple has previously announced numbers right?. Mind sharing a link where you called those numbers meaningless?. If apple announced revenues of 100 billion tomorrow, would that be meaningless just cause you don't know how much is profit?. I wish i could have income tomorrow of 1 Billion. I'd like you to tell me it's meaningless just cause you don't know what my electric bill is. In fact, i tell you what. I have an old car to sell.. why don't you give me 20,000 meaningless dollars for it (i promise, not to tell you what it cost me). Forget 1 Billion. I can sure appreciate 20,000 meaningless dollars about right now. I have a vacation spot already picked out.
Find a link where Apple released as meaningless numbers and it is quite likely I called them meaningless. I have no problem criticizing Apple when suitable.
I am not a newbie, but I'm not around as much these days. I have been here long enough to remember you and your trolling habits. Wasn't it just last year you were trying to bolster your arguments by claiming to be a software developer that could out-program Apple engineers? I believe at the time I called you out as an IT Specialist at IBM's equivalent of Kelly Temporary Placement Services for IT, if I recall correctly, which it seems today you have accidently admitted to. Come on Wesley, we should at least be able to expect honesty in your posts, otherwise what value do they have?
Anyhow, whether it is Apple or Google releasing meaningless numbers, meaningless is meaningless. It is silly for you to even try to wrangle anything worthwhile from them. They accomplished what they were intended for. You are proof of that.
I was reading this article at Macworld where iOS is way ahead of Android in web usage but maybe iPhone users just don't use that much search. It still seems a little fishy though.
One thing that is difficult to quantify is that many apps:
-- replace web searches - maps for instance
-- use intermediate server-based apps to search/harvest web content
-- use search replacements - RSS, Twitter, etc.
I do a lot of web browsing on my iPad and iPhone -- but very seldom do a search .
I set my Safari Mobile search engine to Yahoo!
.
Find a link where Apple released as meaningless numbers and it is quite likely I called them meaningless. I have no problem criticizing Apple when suitable.
I am not a newbie, but I'm not around as much these days. I have been here long enough to remember you and your trolling habits. Wasn't it just last year you were trying to bolster your arguments by claiming to be a software developer that could out-program Apple engineers? I believe at the time I called you out as an IT Specialist at IBM's equivalent of Kelly Temporary Placement Services for IT, if I recall correctly, which it seems today you have accidently admitted to. Come on Wesley, we should at least be able to expect honesty in your posts, otherwise what value do they have?
Anyhow, whether it is Apple or Google releasing meaningless numbers, meaningless is meaningless. It is silly for you to even try to wrangle anything worthwhile from them. They accomplished what they were intended for. You are proof of that.
Yes, i am proof because google was up all night thinking about how to persuade me.
As to the other stuff.. quite likely you called out apple?.. i doubt it. You better be wearing flame retardant suit. Apple fanboys don't like people calling out apple numbers.
As to out programming apple engineers.. i do believe in my talent. Frankly, i don't give a shit if you do or not so that is irrelevant here. I'm not sure what you think i admitted to but whatever.
But for your reading pleasure
Link to J.P Morgan talking about apple revenue without discussing profit. Please try to find the apple fanboy calling those numbers meaningless.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hlight=revenue
Another link talks about revenue and earnings per share (which is not the same as profit)
again, no mention of profit but i was hard pressed to find anyone calling these numbers meaningless. In fact, i saw a lot of post basically saying "awesome". Now, remember, before you insult all other apple fanboys, get that flame retardant suit out of the closet.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hlight=revenue
People who use adblocker software are leeches on the backs of sites like this one. Grateful users make it a point to click on the occasional ad in order to supply revenue to their favorite we sites.
Just my $.02.
But you're not actually doing anything favorable to Nissan (the ad that I see above right now) by clicking on the ad. Nissan doesn't care about clicks unless it eventually converts you into buying a car. Functionally speaking, you're not helping AI get paid unless you're clicking ads with the intention of buying.
But you're not actually doing anything favorable to Nissan (the ad that I see above right now) by clicking on the ad. Nissan doesn't care about clicks unless it eventually converts you into buying a car. Functionally speaking, you're not helping AI get paid unless you're clicking ads with the intention of buying.
Well now, to be fair to him, it's possible Nissan pays regardless of whether he buys.. how would they know he bought a car later on? and even if he did, how would they know it was because he saw that particular ad on appleinsider (i've never had a car dealer ask me if i saw their ad and where).. i guess it's possible Nissan would keep track of that..
I'm thinking though, not all advertisers keep track of that stuff.. just like on tv.. advertisers pay regardless of whether you buy. I'm sure foxnews or nbc or whoever does not wait until you buy to get paid.
Yes, i am proof because google was up all night thinking about how to persuade me.
As to the other stuff.. quite likely you called out apple?.. i doubt it. You better be wearing flame retardant suit. Apple fanboys don't like people calling out apple numbers.
As to out programming apple engineers.. i do believe in my talent. Frankly, i don't give a shit if you do or not so that is irrelevant here. I'm not sure what you think i admitted to but whatever.
But for your reading pleasure
Link to J.P Morgan talking about apple revenue without discussing profit. Please try to find the apple fanboy calling those numbers meaningless.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hlight=revenue
Another link talks about revenue and earnings per share (which is not the same as profit)
again, no mention of profit but i was hard pressed to find anyone calling these numbers meaningless. In fact, i saw a lot of post basically saying "awesome". Now, remember, before you insult all other apple fanboys, get that flame retardant suit out of the closet.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hlight=revenue
1) The JP Morgan article was an analysts prediction, not Apple's, so not really comparable to Google itself releasing a meaningless projection of 1 year of revenue from one stream.
2) The second link was about Apple's statement, including profit growth and unit sales...you know, an earnings report.
3) What you think about your skill is irrelevant. You claimed you worked as an [IBM] developer and denied emphatically that you were in IT (actually, I think you said it was insulting to even say that). Today you demonstrated more honesty than you intended when you admitted to be an IT consultant.
4) yes, I am well aware of how overly sensitive some Apple fans can to to even a perception of criticism of Apple, regardless of it being deserved. That doesn't make the trolls that visit Apple fan sites to bait them any more mature or worthwhile as human beings. Especially the personally dishonest ones.
Well now, to be fair to him, it's possible Nissan pays regardless of whether he buys.. how would they know he bought a car later on? and even if he did, how would they know it was because he saw that particular ad on appleinsider (i've never had a car dealer ask me if i saw their ad and where).. i guess it's possible Nissan would keep track of that..
I'm thinking though, not all advertisers keep track of that stuff
You can probably bet paychecks that this last line is incorrect and they (or their ad agency for them) track it very thoroughly.
advertisers pay regardless of whether you buy. I'm sure foxnews or nbc or whoever does not wait until you buy to get paid.
Actually, advertisers pay only because they know that you (Joe Consumer) will buy.
If they advertised and it did nothing for sales, they would not advertise.
Likely they don't know the specifics of which person is buying what (unless you fill out the "product registration" card and send it in) but there is a LOT of demographics on who buys what and how advertising affects sales.
Walmart has the largest consumer demographics database in the world and could tell you more info about what your purchase habits are than even you know.
Google was able to announce $1 billion in mobile revenue for one single reason; People buy when they see ads.
1) The JP Morgan article was an analysts prediction, not Apple's, so not really comparable to Google itself releasing a meaningless projection of 1 year of revenue from one stream.
2) The second link was about Apple's statement, including profit growth and unit sales...you know, an earnings report.
3) What you think about your skill is irrelevant. You claimed you worked as an [IBM] developer and denied emphatically that you were in IT (actually, I think you said it was insulting to even say that). Today you demonstrated more honesty than you intended when you admitted to be an IT consultant.
4) yes, I am well aware of how overly sensitive some Apple fans can to to even a perception of criticism of Apple, regardless of it being deserved. That doesn't make the trolls that visit Apple fan sites to bait them any more mature or worthwhile as human beings. Especially the personally dishonest ones.
1. You made my point. Apple fans should have even been more eager to slam the numbers because it did not come from apple yet they all praised it
2. profit growth is not the same as profit.. common, you are a smart guy, you know that. If i spent 1 million and earned 1 million and 1 dollar one year, then spent 1 million and earned 1 million 2 dollars the next year, that's a profit growth of 100 percent. Profit growth is even more meaningless than revenue. You should really go to that forum topic and point that out.
3. when did i ever deny i was in IT?. please provide the link.
4. Now you are calling me dishonest.. ok, well you are a hyprocrite and a liar. Lets stop discussing and start calling each other names cause that's how we learn.
Here is a more recent link for you to go criticize. It's not from apple yet apple fans seem to enjoy these numbers... you should go educate them how meaningless the numbers are
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hreadid=113836
1. You made my point. Apple fans should have even been more eager to slam the numbers because it did not come from apple yet they all praised it
2. profit growth is not the same as profit.. common, you are a smart guy, you know that. If i spent 1 million and earned 1 million and 1 dollar one year, then spent 1 million and earned 1 million 2 dollars the next year, that's a profit growth of 100 percent. Profit growth is even more meaningless than revenue. You should really go to that forum topic and point that out.
3. when did i ever deny i was in IT?. please provide the link.
4. Now you are calling me dishonest.. ok, well you are a hyprocrite and a liar. Lets stop discussing and start calling each other names cause that's how we learn.
Here is a more recent link for you to go criticize. It's not from apple yet apple fans seem to enjoy these numbers... you should go educate them how meaningless the numbers are
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...hreadid=113836
1) Why, external analysts can say whatever they want. It isn't Apple saying it, so why would I criticize Apple for what JP Morgan said?
2) Profit growth is a important part of an earning statement, allowing investors to analyze the trajectory of the company. It has meaning. Don't you get that? Also, the earnings statement from Apple in that case included profit (and margins). AI's story mentioned only the profit growth because it by itself was so incredible.
3) "I don't work in the IT department." "I am a developer and i work for a large software company whose sole reason for existence is developing software", err, I mean "I'm an IT consultant"
Now, if we were going to be totally honest, working for IBM in their IT Services division where you are sourced out to other companies is a decent gig, but it is a placement service. One might say they work for Kelly Services, but they don't really. They work for whomever called looking for a body. It's the craigslist of IT (and certainly in no way related to IBM software development any more than the janitor at my work is related to our development).
4) I don't have to call you dishonest. Your posts speak for themselves. I would, however, suggest that dishonestly doesn't bolster your posts. It will, in fact, make them look ever weaker.
Have a dutty day wes.
1) Why, external analysts can say whatever they want. It isn't Apple saying it, so why would I criticize Apple for what JP Morgan said?
2) Profit growth is a important part of an earning statement, allowing investors to analyze the trajectory of the company. It has meaning. Don't you get that? Also, the earnings statement from Apple in that case included profit (and margins). AI's story mentioned only the profit growth because it by itself was so incredible.
3) "I don't work in the IT department." "I am a developer and i work for a large software company whose sole reason for existence is developing software", err, I mean "I'm an IT consultant"
Now, if we were going to be totally honest, working for IBM in their IT Services division where you are sourced out to other companies is a decent gig, but it is a placement service. One might say they work for Kelly Services, but they don't really. They work for whomever called looking for a body. It's the craigslist of IT (and certainly in no way related to IBM software development any more than the janitor at my work is related to our development).
4) I don't have to call you dishonest. Your posts speak for themselves. I would, however, suggest that dishonestly doesn't bolster your posts. It will, in fact, make them look ever weaker.
Have a dutty day wes.
1. I did nto say criutize apple.. i said to state that the numbers are meaningless. Are you dense?
2, Profit growth is useless. it's a meaningless number. It means nothing to me.
3. Do you know what IT consultant means?. It's a generic term. Dude, buy a clue. An architect is an IT consultant, a Software Developer is an IT consultant. IT stands for information technology. all Apple software developers are in the Information Technology field. Buy a clue or ask someone who knows before you open your mouth.
This argument has ended.