Apple unveils new, instant-on MacBook Air: 'MacBook meets iPad'

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    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,762member
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    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post


    A Netbook IS an Ultraportable laptop.



    Yup, a cheap version full of compromises. but you are correct, it is a subset of ultraportables.
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  • Reply 322 of 359
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,762member
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    Thank you! Wish you had commented yesterday, would have shut a lot of people up.



    Don't bank on it - because you are still going to get the inane comments like this:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gescom View Post


    Oh Steve I just came.... please Steve tell me what should I do next.



    If your that incapable of independent thought it's pretty dangerous for someone of your week intellectual ability to be reading Internet forums, let alone posting in them
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  • Reply 323 of 359
    cmf2cmf2 Posts: 1,427member
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    A Netbook IS an Ultraportable laptop. The End, Good Bye!



    Netbooks are a type of ultraportable, but not all ultraportables are netbooks. The Air is not a netbook since it does not use an Atom processor.
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  • Reply 324 of 359
    strobestrobe Posts: 369member
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    The iPad is not a cheap client device. The inability of their competitors to follow in their footsteps kind of puts that to bed.



    Um, there are many tablets out there. Look up the Galaxy Tab, for example.
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  • Reply 325 of 359
    Just got back from the Apple store, well as expected the 11" 1.4ghz under performed on a basic hd video stream test, very choppy video not even in fullscreen. The same video ran smooth on the 13" 1,86ghz air. both had 2gb ram... i'll tell you one thing the regular 13" MBP now feels heavy as lead in comparison to these new birds !
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  • Reply 327 of 359
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    Um, there are many tablets out there. Look up the Galaxy Tab, for example.



    The Galaxy Tab is the only viable alternative, and it's not available until next month. Prices are not yet worked out, but at first glance, the iPad is still looking pretty good.
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    drxcmdrxcm Posts: 50member
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    Just got back from the Apple store, well as expected the 11" 1.4ghz under performed on a basic hd video stream test, very choppy video not even in fullscreen. The same video ran smooth on the 13" 1,86ghz air. both had 2gb ram... i'll tell you one thing the regular 13" MBP now feels heavy as lead in comparison to these new birds !



    Interesting, I tried a few 720p movie trailers from the Apple site on the 11.6" 1.4ghz today and found the video playback to be smooth, even in fullscreen.
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    strobestrobe Posts: 369member
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YYac2zrGVg



    Ha, sorry but the ultimate Steve Jobs video will always be:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNSHA3FBW2U



    (with animated RDF!)
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    strobestrobe Posts: 369member
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    Interesting, I tried a few 720p movie trailers from the Apple site on the 11.6" 1.4ghz today and found the video playback to be smooth, even in fullscreen.



    Maybe he was using Flash (without h264 GPU decoding)
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  • Reply 331 of 359
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    I've flown transatlantic flights on American, British Air, Air France and United. Unless you 're sitting in the 1st or Business class, you won't get a power outlet.

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    Originally Posted by DocNo42 View Post


    You must really be flying a crappy airline if they don't have power available to you on a transatlantic flight - in fact, looking through a smattering of planes on the major carriers on seatguru.com they all have power of some form available.



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  • Reply 332 of 359
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Then go back and watch the keynote, because SJ just say they did focus group for these products. he may not have called them focus group (if i could find a transcript I would send a link) but that's essentially what he was describing.



    that wasn't even the point of my comment, so if you have anything to say about that I welcome it.

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    Originally Posted by Futuristic View Post


    Apple doesn't do focus groups. And Apple doesn't look at the competition. A side effect of this will inevitably be that some items on users' wishlists won't make it to market. But honestly, I don't think Steve or his engineering teams lose much sleep over this, considering the huge popularity Apple is currently enjoying. Naysayer's comments aside, it's pretty clear that Apple's been doing it right for some time now.



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  • Reply 333 of 359
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    if you actually read and understood my comment, you would see that i was agreeing with you. So I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

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    I am sick and tired of the complaining about the iPad price.



    When someone release a tablet with the same size and quality screen and similar features (heck, it could even be heavier and bulkier and I will concede) then any commentary on price will be justified.



    So far no one has been able to touch Apple at their price point - even using cheaper displays (which according to sites like iSupply are the bulk of the iPad cost).



    I know people aren't used to thinking of Apple as a price leader, but with the iPad they clearly are and they deserve credit for it.



    Just like with Netbooks, if you aren't willing to pay for that level of quality, that's another discussion - but all this talk that the iPad is overpriced or that there should be a $299 version is just plain nuts - it's not going to happen.



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  • Reply 334 of 359
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    Maybe he was using Flash (without h264 GPU decoding)



    Yep Flash: http://kanyewest.com/GOODFridays/
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  • Reply 335 of 359
    drxcmdrxcm Posts: 50member
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    Yep Flash: http://kanyewest.com/GOODFridays/



    I've ordered an 11.6 1.6ghz - will try this out when it arrives and report to see if its any better than the 1.4 at playback..
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    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Never said Apple proclaimed this, just in general.



    Gotcha. Thought you meant they claimed this



    you got no one dude



    You?ve never heard the term used to indicate that one is acknowledging what the other is saying? In other words, after your clarification I get where you are coming from.
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  • Reply 337 of 359
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    You?ve never heard the term used to indicate that one is acknowledging what the other is saying? In other words, after your clarification I get where you are coming from.



    Unfortunately, he misinterpreted it (incredibly incorrectly and mystifyingly) as "Aha, I gotcha (got you/successfully pulled a prank); that's not really what I meant."



    TONIGHT ON LINGUISTIC THEATRE!
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  • Reply 338 of 359
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
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    Just got back from the Apple store, well as expected the 11" 1.4ghz under performed on a basic hd video stream test, very choppy video not even in fullscreen. The same video ran smooth on the 13" 1,86ghz air. both had 2gb ram... i'll tell you one thing the regular 13" MBP now feels heavy as lead in comparison to these new birds !



    Interesting. I would tend to accept the following review over your anecdotal experience. However, I may have read the review wrong.
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    The reason why Apple chose to stay with a Core 2 Duo was so that it can benefit from a better graphics environment, specifically Nvidia's integrated one. The Nvidia GeForce 320M graphics chip is the MacBook Air's one redeeming feature in terms of performance.



    Though it's not the kind of laptop you'd bring to a LAN party, it's a better gaming solution than Intel's integrated graphics?the kind found in the Asus Ul20FT-A1, Acer AS1830T-3721, and Toshiba T235-S1350.



    Its 3DMark 06 scores (4,569 and 3,984) were at least three-times better than the rest of the field.



    It was the only laptop that could handle our 3D intensive gaming demos, Crysis and Lost Planet 2.



    PCMark Vantage scores also favored the 11-inch Air (4,226), since a good chunk of this test is 3D intensive.



    A better graphics solution also benefits HD playback: I tried several 1080p and 720p high-definition video clips, at high bit rates, and the 11-inch MacBook Air played them beautifully.



    For those who are worried about heat, the base of the system measured 83-87 degree Fahrenheit (measured with a Fluke Thermometer) while playing back an HD video clip and rendering a photo with Photoshop CS5. Excessive heat is not an issue from what I'm seeing so far.



    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371199,00.asp#



    Note that the reviewer found that MBA 11 lacking under the Photoshop CS5 test. Then, it might have faired better with more RAM, but why anybody would consider getting this model for such duties is beyond comprehension.
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    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Unfortunately, he misinterpreted it (incredibly incorrectly and mystifyingly) as "Aha, I gotcha (got you/successfully pulled a prank); that's not really what I meant."



    TONIGHT ON LINGUISTIC THEATRE!



    I can see how the term by itself could be misunderstood, but I thought my statement immediately followed would have clarified the meaning. I think I?ll go back to ?mea culpa? just to be safe.
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  • Reply 340 of 359
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
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    We are not mad that Apple reneged on any promise, and we are not mad at SJ for raising the Middle Finger. We're mad because 3G on an Ultra-portable is something of a given when looking at the competition. Even ATT is selling Mini's on their site with 3G built-in. It's as much of a given on a Ultra-portable as a wireless network card.



    You completely missed the point of our posts on this forum about the short-comings of Apple product. We're not offended, just frustrated that Apple is not addressing certain obvious requests of their users. SJ claims they went through tons of user/focus groups and incorporated those studies into their new products, but some issues just don't come up in a test lab.



    Just who are 'we' you continually refer to? Bet they are the same people that complained about the iPhone 4 antenna, even though they didn't have one.
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