Actually, rock in the early '60's was dying out -- with Chuck Berry in jail, Elvis in the Army and Jerry Lee Lewis in scandal -- and the Beatles completely revitalized it. Over an eight year period they were pioneers in...
- Performers writing their own songs
- Songs with more than three chords
- Songs more than three minutes long
- Multi-track recording
- "Studio only" projects
- Independent record labels
...without which it's hard to imagine rock and roll existing today.
I'd say other elements like the use of psychedelic drugs and the introduction of Eastern themes and instrumentation were essential to '60's culture but less so today.
Pretty much covers it!
Though, if you can bar an F -- you can play any chord!
You know, I would love to buy all my music from the iTMS, I just wish they would step up one more level in bit rate. Perhaps when iDevices have a bit more memory, they'll switch to 320k. The only thing that concerns me, like when they switched to 256k, is that they'll charge us again to "upgrade" to the higher quality.
I wouldn't mind an upgrade either, to be honest. But, like you, I don't want to have to pay for it. I mean, I sort of get their point; but then, I already paid for it!
...and this is the first time they are selling their music digitally? Wow, they are stupid too. Hopefully no one buys their music on iTunes. They think they are sooo special. Fuck the Beatles.
And your contribution to the world of music is what exactly?
Sorry, but while I understand the historical relevance of the beatles (I mean people lost their mind over these guys in the 60's) from the stand point of just being part of history, I think they have always been overrated. Not saying their music is not well written and note worthy, but the hysteria that surrounded them back then and the hype they get today I think is overrated.
For Apple, it's kind of like a personal victory and for everyone else, eh. I mean c'mon, if yur a fan you either bought the CDs by NOW or downloaded illegally to spite the fab four.
Sorry, but while I understand the historical relevance of the beatles (I mean people lost their mind over these guys in the 60's) from the stand point of just being part of history, I think they have always been overrated. Not saying their music is not well written and note worthy, but the hysteria that surrounded them back then and the hype they get today I think is overrated.
I was born mid 60s so by the time I knew what was going on Beatlemania was done and dusted. However I enjoyed the 70s listening to all the artists influenced by the fab four and believe me that was a diverse mixture covering many Genre.
The 80s not so good and the 90s to present day listening to music from the 70s.
That's the significance of how influential the Beatles were. Same could be said for Hendrix, the Who, etc.. I'm not a Beatles fan and own not one single track but appreciate the history.
Now we have the X Factor, pop idol, lady GaGa. Oh how we need another Beatles.
Untrue. I recently bought a music video just to see if it was locked down and it was.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
No we got the point, the point is you are a troll and an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about. Point well taken! Peace and Love, Peace and Love!
After thinking about it for a while, I've come to the conclusion that Mr Jobs is really a genius.
Who, but a genius could have devised such a stupid, over-hyped way of introducing the recordings of the world's most stupid, over-hyped band to their tone-deaf, dance-impaired fans.
The fans will think that Apple is making a big deal about the "band," while the rest of us can see that Apple is mocking the band.
Sorry, but while I understand the historical relevance of the beatles (I mean people lost their mind over these guys in the 60's) from the stand point of just being part of history, I think they have always been overrated. Not saying their music is not well written and note worthy, but the hysteria that surrounded them back then and the hype they get today I think is overrated.
hysteria and hype are always overrated, by definition, whatever the era. look at today's hysteria and hype topics ... it's everywhere. yuck.
but you take them out of context, and context is what makes history. you could certainly say the same of Elvis. the importance of both is they represented cultural era breakthroughs in the global public mind, and that opened the door to a whole new wave of not just musical expansion but social as well. they were just symbols, yes, but symbols are essential to consummate change. someone has to play the role ...
as pop song writers - which was really their music category, not "rock" - lennon/mccartney are up there with the other 20th century masters someplace. you can debate the ranking ...
what we are seeing today is a first class job of marketing still-potent memories. i was wondering what will be the total sales over the holidays. there might be 100 million Beatle fans worldwide, and they might buy an average of one album/10 songs each. that would total a gross of $1.4 billion. with actual costs - mainly advertising - of just a few %, there will be a lot of loot to split up.
and by the time Apple's exclusive ends whenever next year, probably 80% of the potential sales will have been made, leaving just leftovers for all the others. slick business on Apple's part.
btw, Apple is also smartly using the Beatles to showcase its iTunes LP and Ping features.
I wouldn't mind an upgrade either, to be honest. But, like you, I don't want to have to pay for it. I mean, I sort of get their point; but then, I already paid for it!
And not only did we already pay for it, but we probably already paid as much as we would have for the CD. So, having to pay even more for the upgrade would be a really tough sell.
what we are seeing today is a first class job of marketing still-potent memories. i was wondering what will be the total sales over the holidays. there might be 100 million Beatle fans worldwide, and they might buy an average of one album/10 songs each. that would total a gross of $1.4 billion. with actual costs - mainly advertising - of just a few %, there will be a lot of loot to split up.
and by the time Apple's exclusive ends whenever next year, probably 80% of the potential sales will have been made, leaving just leftovers for all the others. slick business on Apple's part.
btw, Apple is also smartly using the Beatles to showcase its iTunes LP and Ping features.
Interesting analogy. The phrase "killing two birds with one stone" springs to mind.
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Actually, rock in the early '60's was dying out -- with Chuck Berry in jail, Elvis in the Army and Jerry Lee Lewis in scandal -- and the Beatles completely revitalized it. Over an eight year period they were pioneers in...
- Performers writing their own songs
- Songs with more than three chords
- Songs more than three minutes long
- Multi-track recording
- "Studio only" projects
- Independent record labels
...without which it's hard to imagine rock and roll existing today.
I'd say other elements like the use of psychedelic drugs and the introduction of Eastern themes and instrumentation were essential to '60's culture but less so today.
Pretty much covers it!
Though, if you can bar an F -- you can play any chord!
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Don't sweat it. It's all good.
Thanks.
You know, I would love to buy all my music from the iTMS, I just wish they would step up one more level in bit rate. Perhaps when iDevices have a bit more memory, they'll switch to 320k. The only thing that concerns me, like when they switched to 256k, is that they'll charge us again to "upgrade" to the higher quality.
I wouldn't mind an upgrade either, to be honest. But, like you, I don't want to have to pay for it. I mean, I sort of get their point; but then, I already paid for it!
...and this is the first time they are selling their music digitally? Wow, they are stupid too. Hopefully no one buys their music on iTunes. They think they are sooo special. Fuck the Beatles.
And your contribution to the world of music is what exactly?
Big deal. Who actually buys music anymore, especially music full of DRM?
you do realize that the iTMS doesn't have DRM anymore, right?
you do realize that the iTMS doesn't have DRM anymore, right?
rtm135 didn't rtm
you do realize that the iTMS doesn't have DRM anymore, right?
No, I don't think he does.
Sorry, but while I understand the historical relevance of the beatles (I mean people lost their mind over these guys in the 60's) from the stand point of just being part of history, I think they have always been overrated. Not saying their music is not well written and note worthy, but the hysteria that surrounded them back then and the hype they get today I think is overrated.
I was born mid 60s so by the time I knew what was going on Beatlemania was done and dusted. However I enjoyed the 70s listening to all the artists influenced by the fab four and believe me that was a diverse mixture covering many Genre.
The 80s not so good and the 90s to present day listening to music from the 70s.
That's the significance of how influential the Beatles were. Same could be said for Hendrix, the Who, etc.. I'm not a Beatles fan and own not one single track but appreciate the history.
Now we have the X Factor, pop idol, lady GaGa. Oh how we need another Beatles.
I love how a handful actually expected something like lossless tracks.
Awesome news for many people, however, and that's great.
you do realize that the iTMS doesn't have DRM anymore, right?
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
Untrue. I recently bought a music video just to see if it was locked down and it was.
You sheep missed the point. DRM or not, no one buys music anymore.
No we got the point, the point is you are a troll and an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about. Point well taken! Peace and Love, Peace and Love!
Who, but a genius could have devised such a stupid, over-hyped way of introducing the recordings of the world's most stupid, over-hyped band to their tone-deaf, dance-impaired fans.
The fans will think that Apple is making a big deal about the "band," while the rest of us can see that Apple is mocking the band.
Brilliant.
Sorry, but while I understand the historical relevance of the beatles (I mean people lost their mind over these guys in the 60's) from the stand point of just being part of history, I think they have always been overrated. Not saying their music is not well written and note worthy, but the hysteria that surrounded them back then and the hype they get today I think is overrated.
hysteria and hype are always overrated, by definition, whatever the era. look at today's hysteria and hype topics ... it's everywhere. yuck.
but you take them out of context, and context is what makes history. you could certainly say the same of Elvis. the importance of both is they represented cultural era breakthroughs in the global public mind, and that opened the door to a whole new wave of not just musical expansion but social as well. they were just symbols, yes, but symbols are essential to consummate change. someone has to play the role ...
as pop song writers - which was really their music category, not "rock" - lennon/mccartney are up there with the other 20th century masters someplace. you can debate the ranking ...
what we are seeing today is a first class job of marketing still-potent memories. i was wondering what will be the total sales over the holidays. there might be 100 million Beatle fans worldwide, and they might buy an average of one album/10 songs each. that would total a gross of $1.4 billion. with actual costs - mainly advertising - of just a few %, there will be a lot of loot to split up.
and by the time Apple's exclusive ends whenever next year, probably 80% of the potential sales will have been made, leaving just leftovers for all the others. slick business on Apple's part.
btw, Apple is also smartly using the Beatles to showcase its iTunes LP and Ping features.
I wouldn't mind an upgrade either, to be honest. But, like you, I don't want to have to pay for it. I mean, I sort of get their point; but then, I already paid for it!
And not only did we already pay for it, but we probably already paid as much as we would have for the CD. So, having to pay even more for the upgrade would be a really tough sell.
Apple , you must have been joking with me , you disappointed me so much today that I will never forget !!!
Yes. If only they had delivered the teleportation machine to your house!
what we are seeing today is a first class job of marketing still-potent memories. i was wondering what will be the total sales over the holidays. there might be 100 million Beatle fans worldwide, and they might buy an average of one album/10 songs each. that would total a gross of $1.4 billion. with actual costs - mainly advertising - of just a few %, there will be a lot of loot to split up.
and by the time Apple's exclusive ends whenever next year, probably 80% of the potential sales will have been made, leaving just leftovers for all the others. slick business on Apple's part.
btw, Apple is also smartly using the Beatles to showcase its iTunes LP and Ping features.
Interesting analogy. The phrase "killing two birds with one stone" springs to mind.