The BBC iPlayer uses Flash so it should work on the most recent version of Android without even requiring an Android App. Of course they might need to improve the performance of Flash on Android devices.
Content protection is the one big advantage Flash still has over HTML5.
Presumably they are going to update the web based iPlayer to handle international subscriptions as well. I'd be very surprised if the international version was really iPad only and there was no option for me to watch on my iMac.
I'm a huge fan of British television but there is no way I'd say that it's quality is higher than US television. They simply don't have the revenue or creative protections that US show have access to. Don't get me wrong, some of my favorite shows are from the UK, but they can't compare in scope to the best shows in the US.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
People are not used to paying for access to a single network. Is this the wave of the future? Paying for a subscription app for every TV channel that you might ever want to watch?
I'm pretty sure I don't want that sort of thing.
If HBO offered something like this, I might pay for it.
I just use a VPN service like Strong VPN.they give a UK IP Address when I log on to them.I can then watch all the stuff at the BBC iPlayer site for $50 a year.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
I think it's rebranded as MI-5 here, but yes it's a great drama series. I've only watched a couple of episodes but it's pretty intriguing.
But my fav is Top Gear by a long shot.
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So we're finally going to be able to watch Top Gear legitimately without waiting a year or so for a heavily edited version? I know some people who would buy a subscription for that alone.
+100 for that. Cant stand the US / Canada version that cuts part of the news section of the show. Here's to hoping.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
I used to watch it. It was pretty good for a British drama, but I stopped around series 4 or 5. Like many of these shows the creator seems to get less interested and the writing seems to unravel a bit,. There become inconsistencies in characters between episodes. Like I said, Spooks was pretty good in this regard, but it can?t compare to the US equivalents which have teams of writers that can work on a show for years at a time. If I watched it again I could point out specific examples, but I don?t have the time or interest to do so. Again, I?m not saying that British shows are bad as i clearly stated I watch plenty, i?m pointing the false claim that US shows offer no quality or standards.
I used to watch it. It was pretty good for a British drama, but I stopped around series 4 or 5. Like many of these shows the creator seems to get less interested and the writing seems to unravel a bit,. There become inconsistencies in characters between episodes. Like I said, Spooks was pretty good in this regard, but it can?t compare to the US equivalents which have teams of writers that can work on a show for years at a time. If I watched it again I could point out specific examples, but I don?t have the time or interest to do so. Again, I?m not saying that British shows are bad as i clearly stated I watch plenty, i?m pointing the false claim that US shows offer no quality or standards.
That's right, you have just explained why the US versions of UK shows turned out so well, Life on Mars, and the IT crowd are good examples...
Actually Channel 4 news is a lot better than the BBC news, but the BBC is far better than any US news channels I have seen... they are terrible.
Channel 4 News is very "labour" supportive, where you see BBC News is much more unbiased and unfiltered. In-fact they even report corruption within their own company/staff and government.
As a UK resident, the license fee is worth paying, you get brilliant quality TV, which with no ads means no breaks, which means you get full 30 min, 1 hour episodes/shows.
Not to mention all the recourses you get online and on the radio, ad-free radio, ad-free on their website with educational recourses, historic recourses, news, media, sports, games, business, music food etc.
There is currently no iOS iPlayer app, however the iPad and iPhone have optimised sites that use HTML5, since there HTML5 players don't have an option to download the content, where Android because of its problems people can make mods on it that allow them to download BBC Videos, which is why BBC disabled access to it.
You have to love the BBCs originally, where they come out with original shoes, where many of them have been copied by other stations, ugh hmm The Apprentice.
I absolutely can't stand the BBC. Socialist propaganda spewing force fed TV. Hate it. Hate it.
It disgusts me that my country forces me to pay for it's bias reporting even though I don't watch it and am against it's commie terrorist loving anti american principles.
The BBC, who obviously need to protect their content as well, will launch on the iPad exclusively and not the Galaxy Tab or other Android tablets.
Could it be that the great Android openness is a blessing and a curse. It's just we don't hear very much about the curse.
To be honest I have some sympathy with the content providers on this one. If you are buying then DRM should be stripped, but if you are doing a subscription model then it just flat our doesn't work without DRM.
The BBC are massive supporters of being platform independent. Don't try and lump them into your iOS fanboi gang.
Besides you don't even need an app for android. You can run the whole BBC iPlayer experience on the website in flash. They could just allow foreigners a subscription to their site if an app was so difficult on android.
I absolutely can't stand the BBC. Socialist propaganda spewing force fed TV. Hate it. Hate it.
It disgusts me that my country forces me to pay for it's bias reporting even though I don't watch it and am against it's commie terrorist loving anti american principles.
Are we watching the same BBC News channel? Relative to all the other news sources we have in the UK BBC News is "socialist propaganda spewing" and "commie terrorist loving anti american principles"?
I think that's all wrong but just to pick one, what anti American principles?
The UK TV licence fee funds not only BBC TV, radio and websites, but also the digital switchover of Channel 4, BBC Welsh language programming aired on S4C, and Digital UK (the body established to assist in the process of digital switchover).
From 2015, all of S4C programming, BBC World Service on radio and BBC Arabic Television will also be funded by the licence fee, instead of BBC Worldwide.
You have to love the BBCs originally, where they come out with original shoes, where many of them have been copied by other stations, ugh hmm The Apprentice.
Other way around with The Apprentice. It was a US show originally (with Donald Trump) and was then sold to other countries. The creator, Mark Burnett, is a Brit living in the US.
On the ad value/cost, if you don't believe Schor's numbers, think about your time. Even if you are only sitting through 10 minutes of TV advertising per day, that's 60 hours/year of your time wasted. So if it's not worth $277/year to strip off the ads, you are saying your leisure time is worth less than $4.60/hour. Mine is worth more than that.
I use a DVR. Problem solved.
About the only thing I watch live is CNN. And even then, I often have my laptop or the remote control on my lap and I surf during the commercials.
The BBC iPlayer uses Flash so it should work on the most recent version of Android without even requiring an Android App. Of course they might need to improve the performance of Flash on Android devices.
So although they could use flash it wouldn't be very practical because the majority Android devices don't support it and you admit yourself the performance needs improving.
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Originally Posted by Orlando
Content protection is the one big advantage Flash still has over HTML5.
And one big advantage Windows Phone 7 and iOS have over Android.
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The BBC iPlayer uses Flash so it should work on the most recent version of Android without even requiring an Android App. Of course they might need to improve the performance of Flash on Android devices.
Content protection is the one big advantage Flash still has over HTML5.
Netflix uses Silverlight.
But you can't view the iPlayer outside of the UK.
I hope this is a trend. Next stop Sky Sport and Netflix streaming pls.
OMG YES i would like to see some old cricket matches would even pay for them
But you can't view the iPlayer outside of the UK.
Presumably they are going to update the web based iPlayer to handle international subscriptions as well. I'd be very surprised if the international version was really iPad only and there was no option for me to watch on my iMac.
I'm a huge fan of British television but there is no way I'd say that it's quality is higher than US television. They simply don't have the revenue or creative protections that US show have access to. Don't get me wrong, some of my favorite shows are from the UK, but they can't compare in scope to the best shows in the US.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
People are not used to paying for access to a single network. Is this the wave of the future? Paying for a subscription app for every TV channel that you might ever want to watch?
I'm pretty sure I don't want that sort of thing.
If HBO offered something like this, I might pay for it.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
I think it's rebranded as MI-5 here, but yes it's a great drama series. I've only watched a couple of episodes but it's pretty intriguing.
But my fav is Top Gear by a long shot.
So we're finally going to be able to watch Top Gear legitimately without waiting a year or so for a heavily edited version? I know some people who would buy a subscription for that alone.
+100 for that. Cant stand the US / Canada version that cuts part of the news section of the show. Here's to hoping.
Then you haven't watched Spooks, which is (hands down) the best drama to hit the small screen. It well hides the lack of revenue you speak of - a spy show that doesn't come off as low budget at all.
I used to watch it. It was pretty good for a British drama, but I stopped around series 4 or 5. Like many of these shows the creator seems to get less interested and the writing seems to unravel a bit,. There become inconsistencies in characters between episodes. Like I said, Spooks was pretty good in this regard, but it can?t compare to the US equivalents which have teams of writers that can work on a show for years at a time. If I watched it again I could point out specific examples, but I don?t have the time or interest to do so. Again, I?m not saying that British shows are bad as i clearly stated I watch plenty, i?m pointing the false claim that US shows offer no quality or standards.
Which is why they've announced they're about to launch one...
True, but the report said it is already available in the UK, which it's not.
I used to watch it. It was pretty good for a British drama, but I stopped around series 4 or 5. Like many of these shows the creator seems to get less interested and the writing seems to unravel a bit,. There become inconsistencies in characters between episodes. Like I said, Spooks was pretty good in this regard, but it can?t compare to the US equivalents which have teams of writers that can work on a show for years at a time. If I watched it again I could point out specific examples, but I don?t have the time or interest to do so. Again, I?m not saying that British shows are bad as i clearly stated I watch plenty, i?m pointing the false claim that US shows offer no quality or standards.
That's right, you have just explained why the US versions of UK shows turned out so well, Life on Mars, and the IT crowd are good examples...
The BBC are the best thing about British TV. Fact.
Actually Channel 4 news is a lot better than the BBC news, but the BBC is far better than any US news channels I have seen... they are terrible.
Actually Channel 4 news is a lot better than the BBC news, but the BBC is far better than any US news channels I have seen... they are terrible.
Channel 4 News is very "labour" supportive, where you see BBC News is much more unbiased and unfiltered. In-fact they even report corruption within their own company/staff and government.
As a UK resident, the license fee is worth paying, you get brilliant quality TV, which with no ads means no breaks, which means you get full 30 min, 1 hour episodes/shows.
Not to mention all the recourses you get online and on the radio, ad-free radio, ad-free on their website with educational recourses, historic recourses, news, media, sports, games, business, music food etc.
There is currently no iOS iPlayer app, however the iPad and iPhone have optimised sites that use HTML5, since there HTML5 players don't have an option to download the content, where Android because of its problems people can make mods on it that allow them to download BBC Videos, which is why BBC disabled access to it.
You have to love the BBCs originally, where they come out with original shoes, where many of them have been copied by other stations, ugh hmm The Apprentice.
BBC is a clear example where paid is better.
It disgusts me that my country forces me to pay for it's bias reporting even though I don't watch it and am against it's commie terrorist loving anti american principles.
Netflix won't launch on Android because it lacks generic copy protection system.
The BBC, who obviously need to protect their content as well, will launch on the iPad exclusively and not the Galaxy Tab or other Android tablets.
Could it be that the great Android openness is a blessing and a curse. It's just we don't hear very much about the curse.
To be honest I have some sympathy with the content providers on this one. If you are buying then DRM should be stripped, but if you are doing a subscription model then it just flat our doesn't work without DRM.
The BBC are massive supporters of being platform independent. Don't try and lump them into your iOS fanboi gang.
Besides you don't even need an app for android. You can run the whole BBC iPlayer experience on the website in flash. They could just allow foreigners a subscription to their site if an app was so difficult on android.
I absolutely can't stand the BBC. Socialist propaganda spewing force fed TV. Hate it. Hate it.
It disgusts me that my country forces me to pay for it's bias reporting even though I don't watch it and am against it's commie terrorist loving anti american principles.
Are we watching the same BBC News channel? Relative to all the other news sources we have in the UK BBC News is "socialist propaganda spewing" and "commie terrorist loving anti american principles"?
I think that's all wrong but just to pick one, what anti American principles?
From 2015, all of S4C programming, BBC World Service on radio and BBC Arabic Television will also be funded by the licence fee, instead of BBC Worldwide.
You have to love the BBCs originally, where they come out with original shoes, where many of them have been copied by other stations, ugh hmm The Apprentice.
Other way around with The Apprentice. It was a US show originally (with Donald Trump) and was then sold to other countries. The creator, Mark Burnett, is a Brit living in the US.
On the ad value/cost, if you don't believe Schor's numbers, think about your time. Even if you are only sitting through 10 minutes of TV advertising per day, that's 60 hours/year of your time wasted. So if it's not worth $277/year to strip off the ads, you are saying your leisure time is worth less than $4.60/hour. Mine is worth more than that.
I use a DVR. Problem solved.
About the only thing I watch live is CNN. And even then, I often have my laptop or the remote control on my lap and I surf during the commercials.
The BBC iPlayer uses Flash so it should work on the most recent version of Android without even requiring an Android App. Of course they might need to improve the performance of Flash on Android devices.
So although they could use flash it wouldn't be very practical because the majority Android devices don't support it and you admit yourself the performance needs improving.
Content protection is the one big advantage Flash still has over HTML5.
And one big advantage Windows Phone 7 and iOS have over Android.