Who's to say Apple would even make a first-party case? I don't remember seeing any when the original iPhone came out, or even the 3G and 3GS. I also don't see any for the current iPods (although I could be wrong there), or any for their computers. The current Apple iPad case was made because there was literally no market for iPad accessories, so Apple had to lead the charge. Now that there are hundreds of accessory makers, Apple doesn't have to come out with anything case-wise, at least in my opinion.
Even if they don't I'm still curious how 3rd party case makers will come up with a good folio case design..
When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!
Sometime soon, I hope!
I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10? iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.
This is always my dilemma with Apple (in a good way!). Should I wait or start enjoying the iPad now?
The only reason I didn't get an iPad day one, was a little thing called the "world-wide recession!"
And I didn't have enough "cabbage!"
Now, we're on the cusp of a new iteration. I think I have no choice but to wait.
Thank goodness I have my iPhone 4! Loving it!
SD card not a big deal for me...I sold my iPhone 3Gs ($200) and Mophie juice pack ($25), and my Casio Exilim camera ($40) simply b/c the new iPhone 4 had 40% more battery life, HDR, a better camera with a flash.
So instead of storing, charging, carrying, or more appropriately, not remembering to carry...I have it all contained in my iPhone 4! My GF thinks I'm brilliant...that is when she isn't thinking I'm a complete d**kh**d!
Yep, I think the plan will be make one more sale, sell my iMac on CraigsList, order the 11" MBA w/ 4gig of RAM and then get the new iPad...or maybe keep the desktop and just get the new iPad and put the savings into Scuba diving or something...oh hell, what to do?
Best and Happy Holidays everyone!
Best
PS. FYI: FaceTime is a big deal....My daughter is away at school and we use it all the time...it is so cool to be able to change to the fwd facing camera to show our retarded cats licking their ballsack or something!
When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!
Sometime soon, I hope!
But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.
I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10? iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.
Yes, indeed.
Keeping the SDK problem under control would be important
- but, we do seem to be able to manage with a variety of screen res's on our Macs & PCs ...
But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.
I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Yet another compelling reason not to buy an iPad now, no matter how tempting any discount is offered. There's goiing to be a lot of gen1 iPads dumped on eBay this spring because unlike the iPhone there is no contract.
Thank you Appleinsider!
Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.
Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.
An iPad is the only way to go for a tablet as far as I'm concerned cause I'm Mac-centric. Don't know how that plays out for the rest of the population though. I am glad that I've waited now that it's maturing to where it should be. I had no use for it as it was originally released.
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
I think you mean higher, but then everyone would have to sand their fingers pencil-thin.
One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.
Sometimes the conversation seems like we assume Apple is just sort of winging it, bringing out additional devices willy-nilly and then trying to figure out how to manage them. History suggest that this is way off the mark, and that Apple already knows roughly what they'll be bringing to market several years from now, and that the stuff we're seeing now and in the near future have been on the drawing boards for at least that long.
So I sort of doubt that there's any panicky sense of "damn, we'd best make more sizes of iOS device, but how on earth can we keep from having half a dozen resolutions to deal with?"
Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display
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Originally Posted by Kolchak
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
You guys are talking about keeping the same resolution, but that in itself isn?t even close to the biggest issue.
Take the iPhone 4, for example. If you used apps designed for the ¼ the resolution of previous iPhone/Touches they looked fine, but they looked better when the devs added support for the iPhone 4?s display resolution as the display size and dimensions were not altered.
What you?re talking about is changing the physical size of the elements to meet a different display size. This is where a new UI is important. We see that Apple takes this very seriously when looking at what Apple did to rethink the iOS UI for the iPad. You can run an iPhone app on an iPad to see just how bad a converted app works with finger based elements taking up 4x as much space.
One could argue that a drop from 10? to 7? or 3.5? to 7? wouldn?t be as severe as 3.5? to 10?, and that?s true, but that doesn?t mean it doesn?t negatively affect the user experience, something I argue is at the core of Apple?s UI design philosophy. Bottom line: If we get a smaller tablet, we?ll get a new UI with a new SDK.
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Originally Posted by addabox
One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.
One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.
It was reported sometime this past summer that Steve Jobs actually wanted to make the iPad first, but due to production / design and I'm sure other problems they had to shelf it and went with the iPhone first. So both products were actually (if the report is true) they were conceived around the same time and been in the works for years. Would be great to know how long things sit stewing before the public sees them.
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Originally Posted by Wurm5150
Huh.. Good question.. I'd be weird and uncomfortable to be holding the flap when using the rear camera.
I know it's smaller, but my iPhone has a flip cover that I easily push down on a slight angle when taking photos. Since the camera is in the corner you don't need to have the front of the cover hanging down just flip it over so it's against the back then push it down an inch or two to uncover the lense.
On that note I'd like to know why Apple puts the camera in the corner instead of the top center (in portrait mode) when others do put their cam in the center.
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Who's to say Apple would even make a first-party case? I don't remember seeing any when the original iPhone came out, or even the 3G and 3GS. I also don't see any for the current iPods (although I could be wrong there), or any for their computers. The current Apple iPad case was made because there was literally no market for iPad accessories, so Apple had to lead the charge. Now that there are hundreds of accessory makers, Apple doesn't have to come out with anything case-wise, at least in my opinion.
Even if they don't I'm still curious how 3rd party case makers will come up with a good folio case design..
Sometime soon, I hope!
When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!
Sometime soon, I hope!
I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10? iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.
The only reason I didn't get an iPad day one, was a little thing called the "world-wide recession!"
And I didn't have enough "cabbage!"
Now, we're on the cusp of a new iteration. I think I have no choice but to wait.
Thank goodness I have my iPhone 4! Loving it!
SD card not a big deal for me...I sold my iPhone 3Gs ($200) and Mophie juice pack ($25), and my Casio Exilim camera ($40) simply b/c the new iPhone 4 had 40% more battery life, HDR, a better camera with a flash.
So instead of storing, charging, carrying, or more appropriately, not remembering to carry...I have it all contained in my iPhone 4! My GF thinks I'm brilliant...that is when she isn't thinking I'm a complete d**kh**d!
Yep, I think the plan will be make one more sale, sell my iMac on CraigsList, order the 11" MBA w/ 4gig of RAM and then get the new iPad...or maybe keep the desktop and just get the new iPad and put the savings into Scuba diving or something...oh hell, what to do?
Best and Happy Holidays everyone!
Best
PS. FYI: FaceTime is a big deal....My daughter is away at school and we use it all the time...it is so cool to be able to change to the fwd facing camera to show our retarded cats licking their ballsack or something!
When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!
Sometime soon, I hope!
But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.
I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10? iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.
Yes, indeed.
Keeping the SDK problem under control would be important
- but, we do seem to be able to manage with a variety of screen res's on our Macs & PCs ...
- so, I'm sure they can figure it out....
Didn't Apple file for a patent that allowed a camera to focus through a screen?
actually the patent i believe was to use pixels in the screen in a combined form to "create" a camera.
But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.
I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Yet another compelling reason not to buy an iPad now, no matter how tempting any discount is offered. There's goiing to be a lot of gen1 iPads dumped on eBay this spring because unlike the iPhone there is no contract.
Thank you Appleinsider!
Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.
Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.
An iPad is the only way to go for a tablet as far as I'm concerned cause I'm Mac-centric. Don't know how that plays out for the rest of the population though. I am glad that I've waited now that it's maturing to where it should be. I had no use for it as it was originally released.
I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display
I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
I think you mean higher, but then everyone would have to sand their fingers pencil-thin.
I think you mean higher, but then everyone would have to sand their fingers pencil-thin.
Lower. As in the iPhone 4's 960x640 vs. the iPad's 1024x768.
Lower. As in the iPhone 4's 960x640 vs. the iPad's 1024x768.
I see. Oops, I didn't read your post so well.
Sometimes the conversation seems like we assume Apple is just sort of winging it, bringing out additional devices willy-nilly and then trying to figure out how to manage them. History suggest that this is way off the mark, and that Apple already knows roughly what they'll be bringing to market several years from now, and that the stuff we're seeing now and in the near future have been on the drawing boards for at least that long.
So I sort of doubt that there's any panicky sense of "damn, we'd best make more sizes of iOS device, but how on earth can we keep from having half a dozen resolutions to deal with?"
Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display
Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
You guys are talking about keeping the same resolution, but that in itself isn?t even close to the biggest issue.
Take the iPhone 4, for example. If you used apps designed for the ¼ the resolution of previous iPhone/Touches they looked fine, but they looked better when the devs added support for the iPhone 4?s display resolution as the display size and dimensions were not altered.
What you?re talking about is changing the physical size of the elements to meet a different display size. This is where a new UI is important. We see that Apple takes this very seriously when looking at what Apple did to rethink the iOS UI for the iPad. You can run an iPhone app on an iPad to see just how bad a converted app works with finger based elements taking up 4x as much space.
One could argue that a drop from 10? to 7? or 3.5? to 7? wouldn?t be as severe as 3.5? to 10?, and that?s true, but that doesn?t mean it doesn?t negatively affect the user experience, something I argue is at the core of Apple?s UI design philosophy. Bottom line: If we get a smaller tablet, we?ll get a new UI with a new SDK.
One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.
That?s just crazy talk¡
One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.
It was reported sometime this past summer that Steve Jobs actually wanted to make the iPad first, but due to production / design and I'm sure other problems they had to shelf it and went with the iPhone first. So both products were actually (if the report is true) they were conceived around the same time and been in the works for years. Would be great to know how long things sit stewing before the public sees them.
Huh.. Good question.. I'd be weird and uncomfortable to be holding the flap when using the rear camera.
I know it's smaller, but my iPhone has a flip cover that I easily push down on a slight angle when taking photos. Since the camera is in the corner you don't need to have the front of the cover hanging down just flip it over so it's against the back then push it down an inch or two to uncover the lense.
On that note I'd like to know why Apple puts the camera in the corner instead of the top center (in portrait mode) when others do put their cam in the center.