Why don't you show us where Apple claimed to have done all of the above first?
Put up or shut up.
Not to mention Apple has more applications of `curved glass,' than any corporation in history. Do we need to discuss multitasking? That's innovation because it was sluggishly added to underpowered embedded processors first by the Android group?
Everyone knows Apple doesn't have nearly 40 years of OS expertise long before Android--whose founder comes from Apple but sure as hell wouldn't have cut it at NeXT.
NFC--not mature enough technology and not deployed at levels worth including. Yes, Apple has quite a few NFC patents and working examples of it. When the market matures on the infrastructure Apple will include it.
LTE--a moving standard. Bravo! Now that Apple has a huge stake of patents in it we saw it included.
The mobile projector -- it's value to consumers?
quad core processors -- Apple's worked with Quad core for years with ARM designs. Try again.
voice controls -- I'll take Siri over being first, but then again Apple was working with voice controls decades prior
8 megapixel cameras -- seriously?
4g LTE -- post iPhone 4S Telcos are heavily investing in it due to Apple's overall demand on their networks, not Android.
wireless syncing -- Not a technical issue, but low on the list of providing to the public, not to mention bandwidth is highly constrained
multitasking -- truly sad
pressure sensitive styluses -- long done before
curved glass -- long done before
deep black AMOLED displays -- who gives a crap. The bulk of AMOLED patents are with Dupont, not Samsung or other Android competitors and until they actually mature to a point where they are useful beyond a 5 in screen at current competitor tech pricing this will continue to be a waste of time.
NFC -- premature ejaculation
Face Unlock -- retarded
Burst mode photo shooting -- gimmick with crappy sensors
taking pictures while shooting video -- resource hog to show a gimmick that takes a still from one frame of video and saving it as a photo. More power drain
pop up video players while using another app -- premature ejaculation. Glad it gets you off
Not to mention Apple has more applications of `curved glass,' than any corporation in history. Do we need to discuss multitasking? That's innovation because it was sluggishly added to underpowered embedded processors first by the Android group?
Everyone knows Apple doesn't have nearly 40 years of OS expertise long before Android--whose founder comes from Apple but sure as hell wouldn't have cut it at NeXT.
NFC--not mature enough technology and not deployed at levels worth including. Yes, Apple has quite a few NFC patents and working examples of it. When the market matures on the infrastructure Apple will include it.
LTE--a moving standard. Bravo! Now that Apple has a huge stake of patents in it we saw it included.
The mobile projector -- it's value to consumers?
quad core processors -- Apple's worked with Quad core for years with ARM designs. Try again.
voice controls -- I'll take Siri over being first, but then again Apple was working with voice controls decades prior
8 megapixel cameras -- seriously?
4g LTE -- post iPhone 4S Telcos are heavily investing in it due to Apple's overall demand on their networks, not Android.
wireless syncing -- Not a technical issue, but low on the list of providing to the public, not to mention bandwidth is highly constrained
multitasking -- truly sad
pressure sensitive styluses -- long done before
curved glass -- long done before
deep black AMOLED displays -- who gives a crap. The bulk of AMOLED patents are with Dupont, not Samsung or other Android competitors and until they actually mature to a point where they are useful beyond a 5 in screen at current competitor tech pricing this will continue to be a waste of time.
NFC -- premature ejaculation
Face Unlock -- retarded
Burst mode photo shooting -- gimmick with crappy sensors
taking pictures while shooting video -- resource hog to show a gimmick that takes a still from one frame of video and saving it as a photo. More power drain
pop up video players while using another app -- premature ejaculation. Glad it gets you off
eye recognition anti-lock -- gimmick
There was curved glass long before it was able to be made straight.
How could NFC not be mature enough? The Japanese have been using mobile phones as payment for years now, why are we so behind?
LTE is the natural progression of GSM. It getting built out has nothing to do with Apple.
That's fine. With the mindshare Apple has, "nothing" will still equate to record sales and billions in profit. Nor does it mean that Apple cannot still engage in litigation.
Apple has very, very little to lose. It's obvious that they're doing this because the benefits far outweigh the costs.
The world is gripped in Apple-mania. And for the foreseeable future, provided a thermonuclear device is not dropped on Cupertino, and provided the Apple team don't suddenly go bonkers, this is how it'll be.
Samsung: Galaxy Nexus designed to avoid Apple patents
“The Galaxy Nexus smartphone, the first handset built using a new version of the Android system called ‘ice cream sandwich,’ is designed to bypass potential legal attacks from Apple Inc., the mobile chief of Samsung Electronics Co. said,” Lee Youkyung reports for Yonhap.
“‘Now we will avoid everything we can and take patents very seriously,’ Shin told reporters Tuesday on the eve of the Galaxy Nexus launch. His comments were embargoed until Wednesday,” Youkyung reports.
Youkyung reports, “Apple secured temporary sales bans on Samsung’s Galaxy Tab tablet computer in Germany and Australia on the argument that it copied the iPad. The injunctions will likely force the Korean firm to miss out on the key holiday sales season in both countries.”
“Patents are very complicated and can be difficult to identify, Shin said, but Samsung tried to ensure that no known patent by Apple is included in the new Android smartphone,” Youkyung reports. “Despite such efforts, he could not say with certainty that the Galaxy Nexus, dubbed by media as Google and Samsung’s answer to the iPhone 4S, would be entirely safe from Apple’s legal offense. ‘We will see if (the Galaxy Nexus) will be 100 percent free,’ from Apple lawsuits, he added.”
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This is gold.
Shin admitted they have either a) been copying Apple shamelessly the whole time, or b) have no understanding at all about what Intellectual Property means and don't particularly care to find out, or c) both a and b.
So NOWSamsung will respect Apple's patented IP?? How many units have these crooks sold already? They get away with copying and *then* make a late admission of guilt, and tack on a "we hope we'll be in the clear" statement?
Samsung has already, in a roundabout way, admitted to theft.
This is gold.
No, THIS is gold.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
No, they're just laughing at you for how complete your lack of understanding is.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
Wholesale photocopying someone else's work doesn't count. Great artists also add something of their own that's great. Something that Samsung hasn't done yet. You don't get a work into the MOMA with a "me too" work.
Great artists also add something of their own that's great. Something that Samsung hasn't done yet. You don't get a work into the MOMA with a "me too" work.
Samsung was the first to introduce LED TVs, then 3D TVs, now they will be first again with big screen OLEDs. "Me too" wannabe is Apple.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
No, they're just laughing at you for how complete your lack of understanding is.
I don't know about anybody else, but I love it when the moderators here sling personal insults at the posters. This one deserves it because he doesn't like apple.
I don't know about anybody else, but I love it when the moderators here sling personal insults at the posters.
That's no insult; that's just my observation. It happens to be true that he has completely misunderstood the tone and meaning of that quote, and it's quite often you see anti-Apple folk use it incorrectly in exactly the same manner.
No one deserves personal insults*. And no, my italicization of only the first word doesn't give me or anyone else leave to do the second.
*Maybe pirates, but never personal.
Safari crashed three times for me while editing this post. Just while editing, not at any other time. I hope that gets resolved in DP4…
Samsung was the first to introduce LED TVs, then 3D TVs, now they will be first again with big screen OLEDs. "Me too" wannabe is Apple.
Nice troll.
What has Samsung added to the mobile device design other than replicating Apple's product designs, accessory designs, packaging, dimensions and changing a couple specs?
I don't know about anybody else, but I love it when the moderators here sling personal insults at the posters. This one deserves it because he doesn't like apple.
Why not? People that come here to troll with distorted facts and an axe to grind deserve a bit of abuse.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Why don't you show us where Apple claimed to have done all of the above first?
Put up or shut up.
Not to mention Apple has more applications of `curved glass,' than any corporation in history. Do we need to discuss multitasking? That's innovation because it was sluggishly added to underpowered embedded processors first by the Android group?
Everyone knows Apple doesn't have nearly 40 years of OS expertise long before Android--whose founder comes from Apple but sure as hell wouldn't have cut it at NeXT.
NFC--not mature enough technology and not deployed at levels worth including. Yes, Apple has quite a few NFC patents and working examples of it. When the market matures on the infrastructure Apple will include it.
LTE--a moving standard. Bravo! Now that Apple has a huge stake of patents in it we saw it included.
The mobile projector -- it's value to consumers?
quad core processors -- Apple's worked with Quad core for years with ARM designs. Try again.
voice controls -- I'll take Siri over being first, but then again Apple was working with voice controls decades prior
8 megapixel cameras -- seriously?
4g LTE -- post iPhone 4S Telcos are heavily investing in it due to Apple's overall demand on their networks, not Android.
wireless syncing -- Not a technical issue, but low on the list of providing to the public, not to mention bandwidth is highly constrained
multitasking -- truly sad
pressure sensitive styluses -- long done before
curved glass -- long done before
deep black AMOLED displays -- who gives a crap. The bulk of AMOLED patents are with Dupont, not Samsung or other Android competitors and until they actually mature to a point where they are useful beyond a 5 in screen at current competitor tech pricing this will continue to be a waste of time.
NFC -- premature ejaculation
Face Unlock -- retarded
Burst mode photo shooting -- gimmick with crappy sensors
taking pictures while shooting video -- resource hog to show a gimmick that takes a still from one frame of video and saving it as a photo. More power drain
pop up video players while using another app -- premature ejaculation. Glad it gets you off
eye recognition anti-lock -- gimmick
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Because there's always the chance of losing just like Oracle did and you get nothing.
If Samsung was confident about taking it to court they would have done so long ago. They aren't and were hoping to settle. Apple holds the cards.
There was curved glass long before it was able to be made straight.
How could NFC not be mature enough? The Japanese have been using mobile phones as payment for years now, why are we so behind?
LTE is the natural progression of GSM. It getting built out has nothing to do with Apple.
That's fine. With the mindshare Apple has, "nothing" will still equate to record sales and billions in profit. Nor does it mean that Apple cannot still engage in litigation.
Apple has very, very little to lose. It's obvious that they're doing this because the benefits far outweigh the costs.
The world is gripped in Apple-mania. And for the foreseeable future, provided a thermonuclear device is not dropped on Cupertino, and provided the Apple team don't suddenly go bonkers, this is how it'll be.
I never mentioned either company, I made a general statement. The same could be said of both Apple and Samsung.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
How could NFC not be mature enough? The Japanese have been using mobile phones as payment for years now, why are we so behind?
"Our country is bigger. Can't be expected to have the same level of tech as the rest of the world."
… Nope, doesn't work here, either.
That's an argument that I'll accept not that its not mature enough.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
That's an argument that I'll accept…
Really? Pretty weak argument, in my view.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
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Originally Posted by sleepy3
Its MY opinion that they stole it from apple, and the opinion of the rest of this forum as well.
Hey that is YOUR opinion and donn't speak for everyone else as you certainly don't speak for me.
If you deny that Samsung stole Apple's designs and tech, you are in deep denial.
Samsung has already, in a roundabout way, admitted to theft.
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2011/10/19/26/0501000000AEN20111019000200320F.HTML
Samsung: Galaxy Nexus designed to avoid Apple patents
“The Galaxy Nexus smartphone, the first handset built using a new version of the Android system called ‘ice cream sandwich,’ is designed to bypass potential legal attacks from Apple Inc., the mobile chief of Samsung Electronics Co. said,” Lee Youkyung reports for Yonhap.
“‘Now we will avoid everything we can and take patents very seriously,’ Shin told reporters Tuesday on the eve of the Galaxy Nexus launch. His comments were embargoed until Wednesday,” Youkyung reports.
Youkyung reports, “Apple secured temporary sales bans on Samsung’s Galaxy Tab tablet computer in Germany and Australia on the argument that it copied the iPad. The injunctions will likely force the Korean firm to miss out on the key holiday sales season in both countries.”
“Patents are very complicated and can be difficult to identify, Shin said, but Samsung tried to ensure that no known patent by Apple is included in the new Android smartphone,” Youkyung reports. “Despite such efforts, he could not say with certainty that the Galaxy Nexus, dubbed by media as Google and Samsung’s answer to the iPhone 4S, would be entirely safe from Apple’s legal offense. ‘We will see if (the Galaxy Nexus) will be 100 percent free,’ from Apple lawsuits, he added.”
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This is gold.
Shin admitted they have either a) been copying Apple shamelessly the whole time, or b) have no understanding at all about what Intellectual Property means and don't particularly care to find out, or c) both a and b.
So NOW Samsung will respect Apple's patented IP?? How many units have these crooks sold already? They get away with copying and *then* make a late admission of guilt, and tack on a "we hope we'll be in the clear" statement?
Wow.
You can't make this stuff up. You just can't.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Why don't you show us where Apple claimed to have done all of the above first?
Put up or shut up.
pretty sure that post was served up with quite a bit of /s.
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610
Samsung has already, in a roundabout way, admitted to theft.
This is gold.
No, THIS is gold.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
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Originally Posted by angler
No, THIS is gold.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
No, they're just laughing at you for how complete your lack of understanding is.
Wholesale photocopying someone else's work doesn't count. Great artists also add something of their own that's great. Something that Samsung hasn't done yet. You don't get a work into the MOMA with a "me too" work.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Great artists also add something of their own that's great. Something that Samsung hasn't done yet. You don't get a work into the MOMA with a "me too" work.
Samsung was the first to introduce LED TVs, then 3D TVs, now they will be first again with big screen OLEDs. "Me too" wannabe is Apple.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Quote:
Originally Posted by angler
No, THIS is gold.
I show this on my Galaxy Note to potential Apple shoppers while I'm at Best Buy. It has an especially profound affect on teen/young adults. Love to see their illusion of Apple shattered before my eyes.
No, they're just laughing at you for how complete your lack of understanding is.
I don't know about anybody else, but I love it when the moderators here sling personal insults at the posters. This one deserves it because he doesn't like apple.
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Originally Posted by Hyram Gestan
I don't know about anybody else, but I love it when the moderators here sling personal insults at the posters.
That's no insult; that's just my observation. It happens to be true that he has completely misunderstood the tone and meaning of that quote, and it's quite often you see anti-Apple folk use it incorrectly in exactly the same manner.
No one deserves personal insults*. And no, my italicization of only the first word doesn't give me or anyone else leave to do the second.
*Maybe pirates, but never personal.
Safari crashed three times for me while editing this post. Just while editing, not at any other time. I hope that gets resolved in DP4…
Nice troll.
What has Samsung added to the mobile device design other than replicating Apple's product designs, accessory designs, packaging, dimensions and changing a couple specs?
Why not? People that come here to troll with distorted facts and an axe to grind deserve a bit of abuse.