Your App Ethan, should you choose not to pay for it, will self destruct in 10 days. As always, should any of your devices fail to support the App, we will disavow any knowledge of your download.
When Google opened their app store in Oct of 2008 it was in conjunction with release of the first Android phone, the HTC Dream, rolled out that same day. In fact the original Google app store didn't even have paid apps. That didn't come until several months later. Apple already had millions of iOS devices sold before the first Android phone ever hit the market. In effect Apple had a 16 month headstart on apps instead of just three that the article infers.
ok so Android is "winning" when comparing to only the iPhones but in actuality it's not when comparing to iOS (ipod touches, ipads, iphones). Do most developers for iOS care if it's on an iphone or on iOS in totality.
Yep. Nothing says "Quality" like having 20+ fart apps in an app store.
Thankfully, Apple finally put an end to adding even more fart apps. But oddly, this happened only after the author of one of them (who also distinguished himself by making a urination app) became the app store director, effectively cutting out his competition:
Boths stores need housekeeping, very badly. The one App Store has couldn't keep now, and Google Play doesn't have any. Does Microsoft has an app housekeeper?
Feel free to believing some post based on information from anonymous, unverified sources if you wish.
OTOH, Apple has specifically addressed that situation with their public statement that 90% of apps are downloaded regularly.
Not claiming you incorrect, but a link to the source might be appropriate. That's an incredibly high download rate IMHO, and pretty impressive if true. I see where someone at Apple supposedly determined that 90% of their apps have been downloaded by at least one user over a 30-day period. Is that what you're considering "regularly" or is it from a different source?
EDIT: The identified source for the AI article claiming zombie apps is here:
ok so Android is "winning" when comparing to only the iPhones but in actuality it's not when comparing to iOS (ipod touches, ipads, iphones). Do most developers for iOS care if it's on an iphone or on iOS in totality.
I didn't know anyone was "winning" based solely on device sales numbers or apps downloaded.
Not claiming you incorrect, but a link to the source might be appropriate. That's an incredibly high download rate IMHO, and pretty impressive if true. I see where someone at Apple supposedly determined that 90% of their apps have been downloaded by at least one user over a 30-day period. Is that what you're considering "regularly" or is it from a different source?
Such lies. Then there is the non-linear fragmentation which does force legitimate developers to make multiple versions for no other reason that supporting multiple devices.
The vast majority of android apps +95% work form android 2.1 to the current version no problem, and adjust for screen size, hardware. Android App compatibility is amazing.
Google play store has many many quality apps App store still has a the edge but android apps are catching up in both quality and customers who are willing to pay for them.
OK. At least 12 times in a year would be what you're considering "regularly" then. I was just curious.
If so then the two claims wouldn't necessarily be at odds (tho 2/3 of all iOS apps being zombies??). Considering the 400million+ iOS devices sold, an app getting only a dozen or so downloads over an entire year might be approprioately considered a "zombie" app, wouldn't you agree?
1. None of the Android apps are good as the apps for iOS and. . .
2. There's no productivity apps on Android either, mostly rip-off privacy-stealing free games. And that's because. . .
3. No developers are making money with crappy, buggy, laggy and fragmented Android anyway since. . .
4. Android users are too cheap and/or stupid to pay for quality apps which helps explain why . . .
5. There's no apps for Android tablets, just buggy re-sized phone versions with poor resolution. That might be a good thing for those couple of dozen actual Android tablet users because. . .
6. Google's appstore is littered with spyware and malware, infecting users devices by the millions. Stands to reason since. . .
7. There's no security in Android unlike iOS and besides. . .
8. Google lies about the numbers.
Think that about covers it, avoiding the need to turn the article into another click-bait thread. You're welcome...
I own Google shares and tons of their stuff, but I really think that they're starting to slip.
The rot really seems to have set in ever since they lost Eric Schmidt as CEO. Larry's not so much one of the founders of Google, more just a simple operations guy who probably won't be able to keep Google in profitability for much longer now that Eric is gone.
I think that Google might be doomed.
Still, at least Google's not trying to protect one of the only things that they were ever actually successful at (making money from advertising) rather than just pumping out just another crappy product or service.
They truly understand the importance of quality over quantity, and that's enough to keep me as a loyal customer who will line up at their awesome stores wherever and whenever they release something new, claims of me being suckered in by marketing be damned...
OK. At least 12 times in a year would be what you're considering "regularly" then. I was just curious.
If so then the two claims wouldn't necessarily be at odds (tho 2/3 of all iOS apps being zombies??). Considering the 400million+ iOS devices sold, an app getting only a dozen or so downloads over an entire year might be approprioately considered a "zombie" app, wouldn't you agree?
Not at all. They were defining 'zombie' apps as apps that don't get downloaded. Apple says 90% of apps get downloaded and are therefore not zombies. Thus the '2/3 of Apple App Store apps are zombies" statement is clearly wrong.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to welcome back Gatorguy to the forums.
Recently he seems to have been
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very...
very...
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Welcome back!
Let's hope you're not losing your form with all the great news that Apple's had recently, and don't worry, you can always 'challenge our minds' and 'present us with a different opinion' by bringing up Apple maps!
I wasn't actually absent as I did check in every couple of days at least when I was vacationing (and cramming in a project on my return). I just didn't see anything important enough to interrupt some pleasurable fishing. I plan to do so again for a week in Nov.
I wasn't actually absent as I did check in every couple of days at least when I was vacationing (and cramming in a project on my return). I just didn't see anything important enough to interrupt some pleasurable fishing. I plan to do so again for a week in Nov.
You mis-spelled "I was hiding my head in shame after Samsung's drubbing in California".
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Your App Ethan, should you choose not to pay for it, will self destruct in 10 days. As always, should any of your devices fail to support the App, we will disavow any knowledge of your download.
Ethan? Pfft.
Should be Jim, or Dan, the true IMF leaders. :-)
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When Google opened their app store in Oct of 2008 it was in conjunction with release of the first Android phone, the HTC Dream, rolled out that same day. In fact the original Google app store didn't even have paid apps. That didn't come until several months later. Apple already had millions of iOS devices sold before the first Android phone ever hit the market. In effect Apple had a 16 month headstart on apps instead of just three that the article infers.
ok so Android is "winning" when comparing to only the iPhones but in actuality it's not when comparing to iOS (ipod touches, ipads, iphones). Do most developers for iOS care if it's on an iphone or on iOS in totality.
Feel free to believing some post based on information from anonymous, unverified sources if you wish.
OTOH, Apple has specifically addressed that situation with their public statement that 90% of apps are downloaded regularly.
Originally Posted by MacRulez
…cut too far into the bottom line: the so-called "troll" posts are worth far more… …increased page views.
You'd be surprised how little we care about that.
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You'd be surprised how little we care about that.
Not when the server bills come I think.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
Yep. Nothing says "Quality" like having 20+ fart apps in an app store.
Thankfully, Apple finally put an end to adding even more fart apps. But oddly, this happened only after the author of one of them (who also distinguished himself by making a urination app) became the app store director, effectively cutting out his competition:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/apple-fart-apps/all/
Boths stores need housekeeping, very badly. The one App Store has couldn't keep now, and Google Play doesn't have any. Does Microsoft has an app housekeeper?
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Feel free to believing some post based on information from anonymous, unverified sources if you wish.
OTOH, Apple has specifically addressed that situation with their public statement that 90% of apps are downloaded regularly.
Not claiming you incorrect, but a link to the source might be appropriate. That's an incredibly high download rate IMHO, and pretty impressive if true. I see where someone at Apple supposedly determined that 90% of their apps have been downloaded by at least one user over a 30-day period. Is that what you're considering "regularly" or is it from a different source?
EDIT: The identified source for the AI article claiming zombie apps is here:
http://gigaom.com/europe/app-store-infested-with-zombie-software-claims-analytics-startup-adeven/
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ok so Android is "winning" when comparing to only the iPhones but in actuality it's not when comparing to iOS (ipod touches, ipads, iphones). Do most developers for iOS care if it's on an iphone or on iOS in totality.
I didn't know anyone was "winning" based solely on device sales numbers or apps downloaded.
Wow!! 25 billion FREE downloades! Google must be raking in the money and the developers getting rich!!
Oh wait... nevermind.
Hmm... I wonder why???
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/25/ios-android-appcelerato/
I'm sure the Android apologists will spin this story into something else.
It was widely discussed after the iPhone 5 launch and a simple search brings it up:
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/apple-90-all-ios-apps-downloaded-least-once-month/2012-09-12
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Such lies. Then there is the non-linear fragmentation which does force legitimate developers to make multiple versions for no other reason that supporting multiple devices.
The vast majority of android apps +95% work form android 2.1 to the current version no problem, and adjust for screen size, hardware. Android App compatibility is amazing.
Google play store has many many quality apps App store still has a the edge but android apps are catching up in both quality and customers who are willing to pay for them.
http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/read/android-gaining-ground-on-paid-apps/019285
...and then this:
http://www.wired.com/business/2012/09/reviews-column-saving-android/
might get interesting.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
It was widely discussed after the iPhone 5 launch and a simple search brings it up:
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/apple-90-all-ios-apps-downloaded-least-once-month/2012-09-12
OK. At least 12 times in a year would be what you're considering "regularly" then. I was just curious.
If so then the two claims wouldn't necessarily be at odds (tho 2/3 of all iOS apps being zombies??). Considering the 400million+ iOS devices sold, an app getting only a dozen or so downloads over an entire year might be approprioately considered a "zombie" app, wouldn't you agree?
I own Google shares and tons of their stuff, but I really think that they're starting to slip.
The rot really seems to have set in ever since they lost Eric Schmidt as CEO. Larry's not so much one of the founders of Google, more just a simple operations guy who probably won't be able to keep Google in profitability for much longer now that Eric is gone.
I think that Google might be doomed.
Still, at least Google's not trying to protect one of the only things that they were ever actually successful at (making money from advertising) rather than just pumping out just another crappy product or service.
They truly understand the importance of quality over quantity, and that's enough to keep me as a loyal customer who will line up at their awesome stores wherever and whenever they release something new, claims of me being suckered in by marketing be damned...
Not at all. They were defining 'zombie' apps as apps that don't get downloaded. Apple says 90% of apps get downloaded and are therefore not zombies. Thus the '2/3 of Apple App Store apps are zombies" statement is clearly wrong.
Originally Posted by GTR
I think that Google might be doomed.
???? An inversion! Have we slipped into bizarro-Earth?
Saying this to the Anti-Apple Brigade is the equivalent of telling an early logical engine that everything you say is a lie.
Recently he seems to have been
very...
very...
very...
quiet.
Welcome back!
Let's hope you're not losing your form with all the great news that Apple's had recently, and don't worry, you can always 'challenge our minds' and 'present us with a different opinion' by bringing up Apple maps!
What a cartostrophe that's been! ;-)
Thanks GTR for the surprising welcome!
I wasn't actually absent as I did check in every couple of days at least when I was vacationing (and cramming in a project on my return). I just didn't see anything important enough to interrupt some pleasurable fishing.
You mis-spelled "I was hiding my head in shame after Samsung's drubbing in California".