That thing labelled "Cathedral of Pisa" is actually the bell tower next to the Cathedral of Pisa. Hurry up, start up a Tumblr: Google45DegreeGoofs, call the WSJ, put it on Yahoo's front page!
Good one. Apple can't find nonexistent addresses, but Google fails Social Studies.
They really ought not to sling mud when so much of it could end up back on them.
That thing labelled "Cathedral of Pisa" is actually the bell tower next to the Cathedral of Pisa. Hurry up, start up a Tumblr: Google45DegreeGoofs, call the WSJ, put it on Yahoo's front page!
Good one. Apple can't find nonexistent addresses, but Google fails Social Studies.
They really ought not to sling mud when so much of it could end up back on them.
I thought the Leaning Tower of Pisa was in Brooklyn... or, maybe State College, PA.
Please, maps was not a cash cow. All it lost was the licensing fee Apple was paying which was probably a few million. There are now enough Android devices for them to draw data from.
If USD $500 mn is a "few million" to you then I am certain that I could never spend your entire fortune. Please adopt me.
Android-based smartphones are a curiosity. My customers who use Android-based smartphones have mostly been completely shocked when I told them their "smartphone" could provide turn-by-turn navigation.
So first we have another misreporting from AI -nothing new or to 'take on' here just additions- then the usual dishonest fanbois and their Pavlovian nonsense, then people claiming that the Pisa tower/ campanile isn't actually part of the cathedral... Oh well, ignorant if not dishonest misinformation at its best...
... someday in the future unless they develop (if they haven't already) an effective mobile plan that relies very little on Apple's cooperation.
For now any loss of revenue's from Google' Maps not being the default on iOS devices is probably a minor blip and all but unnoticeable in the big picture. The total revenue from ALL Google services on iOS are estimated to contribute just 2.5% of Google overall revenues, and maps is is just a percentage of that 2.5%. IMO it's unlikely to be more than a few hundred million if the estimates of iOS contributions were correct.
I think your buddies at Google realize that future is coming sooner rather than later. If Apple "iPods" the tablet market, Google is literally screwed. Why do you think Page gripes about people accessing the web through apps (sans Google Analytics and the rest of their spyware) every chance he gets, or why the Nexus 7 has to be sold at a loss? I for one can hardly wait for that future.
Correct from the ones I've looked at. All the images I've seen have been 45? from the south.
Then it's not really comparable. In the months I've been using iOS 6 I've had absolutely no use for FlyOver and miss Street View quite a bit but this 45° shot from a single angle is no FlyOver.
But that won't stop Google and all of its shills from pretending that it's just the same.
I wouldn't be surprised if Google (through Moto) is now busy trying to find some 45° angle still shot that is beautiful on Google Maps but rendered poorly by FlyOver to prove how it's superior.
What's sad is that Google has some legitimate claims it can make against Apple Maps but it's make sleazy claims instead.
Correct from the ones I've looked at. All the images I've seen have been 45? from the south.
Then it's not really comparable. In the months I've been using iOS 6 I've had absolutely no use for FlyOver and miss Street View quite a bit but this 45° shot from a single angle is no FlyOver.
Completely agree, although I might use the flyover thing more if I lived somewhere where it is implemented. The 45? view is pleasing to look at, but it's not the view that you would actually see - it has to be re-projected to the underlying map projection in use.
Further, Google launched 45-degree imagery back in late 2009 - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/changing-your-perspective.html. This isn't some new feature they just launched. They regulary add new cities - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/search/label/oblique imagery. It's similar to Bing's Birds Eye mode. Rather than break 45-degree out as a seperate layer (like Bing did), Google integrated it into the zoom levels -- if you have satellite imagery enabled, when you zoom in, you'll automatically be switched to 45-degree imagery once you zoom in far enough. If you have Maps GL enabled, if you keep zooming in, you'll transition to Street View. It's kind of a neat trick.
Um, this was just a regular imagery update for Google Maps. They post them all the time (earlier posts are here: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/search/label/imagery). It has nothing to do with Apple MaAps.
Further, Google launched 45-degree imagery back in late 2009 - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/changing-your-perspective.html. This isn't some new feature they just launched. They regulary add new cities - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/search/label/oblique imagery. It's similar to Bing's Birds Eye mode. Rather than break 45-degree out as a seperate layer (like Bing did), Google integrated it into the zoom levels -- if you have satellite imagery enabled, when you zoom in, you'll automatically be switched to 45-degree imagery once you zoom in far enough. If you have Maps GL enabled, if you keep zooming in, you'll transition to Street View. It's kind of a neat trick.
I never saw it in Google because of my somewhat rural location. Bing does have my location in their Birds Eye 45 degree view from two directions. Apple flyover only gets basic landscape topology for me, no 3D buildings or foliage. These features are nice, but the utility is often limited. SteetView proved helpful a couple times.
Apple is going to throw some more very serious money at this problem to keep Google out of their user database. And well they should. They have been feeding one of their big competitors customer info for free for a long time, and the old Google maps on Apple were never anything to write home about. My son had Google's Android maps on his Samsung and we'd compared the version on his phone vs. my iPhone 4, and Google was providing better features in their OS than Apple's. So why would Apple continue to support that crap.... No, Apple needed to cut the cord, go cold turkey. The current pain is just withdrawal symptoms from a bad drug. It will get better and Apple will eventually be much better off.
As impressive as 3D flyover, or 45 degree visualization is, how really useful is it?
I've been using this feature on the Google Maps web site (which has had it for almost a year now) pretty extensively. It's very useful for me when house-hunting for a new house, along with Google Street it allows me to get a good look at the house and neighborhood I might be interested in from various perspectives. I can see whether the neighbors are hoarders, resolution is often good enough to tell how good the roof is and what it's made out of (tile, wood shake, shingle, metal), and then I can drop down to street level and see whether the surrounding houses are in good condition with neat lawns and the cars parked in the driveways and along the streets are well maintained and relatively new, or whether it's an utter ghetto. I just checked my new Samsung Galaxy SIII that replaced my iPhone 4, and it appears Google *has* implemented this, sort of, in their new Google Maps for Android. But as usual with Google, the user interface is terrible (you have to hit the little "target" on the screen until it flips into angle view, then swivel the picture by twirling two fingers until it has the perspective you want). I just went and looked at the new iOS5 map on my iPad for my neighborhood, and compared to the Google map it is... odd. It shows two cars in my driveway, for example, but I only have one car. Both cars (and all the cars in all the driveways for that matter) look weirdly deformed, one looks like a pile of junk even. And I know when the photo was taken and that it was when I lived in this place because it was taken during the time between when the television tower fell on the roof of my house, and when it was removed. (Said tower was just a steel pole with a bunch of aluminum tubes on the top so didn't go thru the roof, but it was a rather large assemblage of tubes and wires on the roof for some months while the best way of removing it was investigated). Uhm, yeah. I think Apple needs to do a bit more work with their data provider on this one. (Google, of course, is their own data provider -- they quit using TeleNav for their imagery long ago).
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Good one. Apple can't find nonexistent addresses, but Google fails Social Studies.
They really ought not to sling mud when so much of it could end up back on them.
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Originally Posted by phasornc
That thing labelled "Cathedral of Pisa" is actually the bell tower next to the Cathedral of Pisa. Hurry up, start up a Tumblr: Google45DegreeGoofs, call the WSJ, put it on Yahoo's front page!
Good one. Apple can't find nonexistent addresses, but Google fails Social Studies.
They really ought not to sling mud when so much of it could end up back on them.
I thought the Leaning Tower of Pisa was in Brooklyn... or, maybe State College, PA.
If USD $500 mn is a "few million" to you then I am certain that I could never spend your entire fortune. Please adopt me.
Android-based smartphones are a curiosity. My customers who use Android-based smartphones have mostly been completely shocked when I told them their "smartphone" could provide turn-by-turn navigation.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
... someday in the future unless they develop (if they haven't already) an effective mobile plan that relies very little on Apple's cooperation.
For now any loss of revenue's from Google' Maps not being the default on iOS devices is probably a minor blip and all but unnoticeable in the big picture. The total revenue from ALL Google services on iOS are estimated to contribute just 2.5% of Google overall revenues, and maps is is just a percentage of that 2.5%. IMO it's unlikely to be more than a few hundred million if the estimates of iOS contributions were correct.
I think your buddies at Google realize that future is coming sooner rather than later. If Apple "iPods" the tablet market, Google is literally screwed. Why do you think Page gripes about people accessing the web through apps (sans Google Analytics and the rest of their spyware) every chance he gets, or why the Nexus 7 has to be sold at a loss? I for one can hardly wait for that future.
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forgive me if this was covered already but being a satellite image it's just a 45° from one side, not the 3D view you get from FlyOver, right?
Correct from the ones I've looked at. All the images I've seen have been 45? from the south.
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I think you actually would have made more money over the last several months by investing in Google stock over Apple
There's alot of stocks which would have made more than Apple in that timeframe. This year I've already more than doubled up my portfolio...
Then it's not really comparable. In the months I've been using iOS 6 I've had absolutely no use for FlyOver and miss Street View quite a bit but this 45° shot from a single angle is no FlyOver.
But that won't stop Google and all of its shills from pretending that it's just the same.
I wouldn't be surprised if Google (through Moto) is now busy trying to find some 45° angle still shot that is beautiful on Google Maps but rendered poorly by FlyOver to prove how it's superior.
What's sad is that Google has some legitimate claims it can make against Apple Maps but it's make sleazy claims instead.
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Originally Posted by muppetry
Correct from the ones I've looked at. All the images I've seen have been 45? from the south.
Then it's not really comparable. In the months I've been using iOS 6 I've had absolutely no use for FlyOver and miss Street View quite a bit but this 45° shot from a single angle is no FlyOver.
Completely agree, although I might use the flyover thing more if I lived somewhere where it is implemented. The 45? view is pleasing to look at, but it's not the view that you would actually see - it has to be re-projected to the underlying map projection in use.
question...in all seriousness...
who the hell has actually said that?
There you go constructing your straw army so you can walk in, battle-ready, like a fool defeating your fabricated foes.
Further, Google launched 45-degree imagery back in late 2009 - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/changing-your-perspective.html. This isn't some new feature they just launched. They regulary add new cities - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/search/label/oblique imagery. It's similar to Bing's Birds Eye mode. Rather than break 45-degree out as a seperate layer (like Bing did), Google integrated it into the zoom levels -- if you have satellite imagery enabled, when you zoom in, you'll automatically be switched to 45-degree imagery once you zoom in far enough. If you have Maps GL enabled, if you keep zooming in, you'll transition to Street View. It's kind of a neat trick.
I never saw it in Google because of my somewhat rural location. Bing does have my location in their Birds Eye 45 degree view from two directions. Apple flyover only gets basic landscape topology for me, no 3D buildings or foliage. These features are nice, but the utility is often limited. SteetView proved helpful a couple times.
You haters are so insecure, you troll Apple forums.
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As impressive as 3D flyover, or 45 degree visualization is, how really useful is it?
I've been using this feature on the Google Maps web site (which has had it for almost a year now) pretty extensively. It's very useful for me when house-hunting for a new house, along with Google Street it allows me to get a good look at the house and neighborhood I might be interested in from various perspectives. I can see whether the neighbors are hoarders, resolution is often good enough to tell how good the roof is and what it's made out of (tile, wood shake, shingle, metal), and then I can drop down to street level and see whether the surrounding houses are in good condition with neat lawns and the cars parked in the driveways and along the streets are well maintained and relatively new, or whether it's an utter ghetto. I just checked my new Samsung Galaxy SIII that replaced my iPhone 4, and it appears Google *has* implemented this, sort of, in their new Google Maps for Android. But as usual with Google, the user interface is terrible (you have to hit the little "target" on the screen until it flips into angle view, then swivel the picture by twirling two fingers until it has the perspective you want). I just went and looked at the new iOS5 map on my iPad for my neighborhood, and compared to the Google map it is... odd. It shows two cars in my driveway, for example, but I only have one car. Both cars (and all the cars in all the driveways for that matter) look weirdly deformed, one looks like a pile of junk even. And I know when the photo was taken and that it was when I lived in this place because it was taken during the time between when the television tower fell on the roof of my house, and when it was removed. (Said tower was just a steel pole with a bunch of aluminum tubes on the top so didn't go thru the roof, but it was a rather large assemblage of tubes and wires on the roof for some months while the best way of removing it was investigated). Uhm, yeah. I think Apple needs to do a bit more work with their data provider on this one. (Google, of course, is their own data provider -- they quit using TeleNav for their imagery long ago).