“If you can't make it good, at least make it look good.” ? Bill Gates (but I think any Fandroid can and will say this as well. Heck, if they did it would be copying)
"An American company who decides to manufacture their product on US soil: Fancy that! What a concept!" (forum member on rockcenter.nbcnews.com after the 12/7 Cook interview)
Gorilla glass. Because Apple likes to throw stones.
This one stands out, but I don't see how it can be made a "rule", per se.
Feel free to delete it; I was just having fun...but yeah, it's more of a tagline. I remember the webmaster at a company that I worked for created a random tagline (beneath our new company name after a merger) on our intranet, replacing it with a new one with every refresh. Yep, I used IE's F5 quite a lot because he wrote fantastic tag lines.
"I'm not too surprised to see that the iphone 5 is selling well, though it was a bit too boring of an upgrade for me... Me and the girlfriend upgraded from the 4S to a Note II and GS3. Jellybean is fantastic and feels like a breath of fresh air coming from iOS."
I love the random anecdotes:
"They've been loosing market share, not to mention I live in iPhones biggest selling region, Los Angeles, and they have gone down considerably in this region."
It's not even based on anything other than presumably this guy wandering around LA looking for Android and iPhone users and determining that iPhones have depleted in favour of Android phones - no doubt because they just threw the iPhones away because if they'd sold them on, they'd either have had to sell out of the region or the number of users would actually be the same. iPhones and Android phones are displacing Nokia and RIM, with Android doing it a bit faster so that's where the growth is coming from.
Here's another one:
"Even the Verizon retail sales folks I run into are getting the Galaxy Note II over iPhone 5 and they know what they're selling."
and another:
"Here in the uk. All i see is people buying android tablets for christmas. These figures will change soon. People are waking up. Apple products are good but way over priced."
Always with the "overpriced" and "waking up" remarks as if buyers don't realise how much they are spending and somehow got tricked into buying something expensive and yet if someone bought a big expensive house or car instead of a small house or car, they'd be seen as doing well for themselves. They don't realise the Kindle and Tab are being sold at either break-even or very low margins and despite that aren't a huge amount cheaper than the iPad Mini - the Galaxy S series isn't that much cheaper than an equivalent iPhone. It just makes me laugh how they come out with things like "all I see is people buying Android" - do they spend hours at a checkout or something? If they are a shopper, the best they'd see is maybe 5 people buying a tablet at the same time.
It is a strange phenomenon with tech companies how people (including us) go on about how much a company is selling when it really doesn't benefit us in any way. I wonder if there are car enthusiast forums where people post about how many units a manufacturer is shipping. I suppose the marketshare matters more with computers as it's about software and hardware support but at this stage, neither Android nor iOS users really have to worry about the numbers. No matter what happens from here on, both have a 400-600 million strong userbase so it really doesn't matter.
One of my favourites is one that crops up on Engadget quite often:
"I used to own Apple products but I switched to a PC / Android device / non-Apple product and my life is so much better now"
As you know, I've been quite vocal on this issue. Of course, I still use a Mac, but I am hesitant to consider the latest MBPs and iMacs.
As for phones though, switching to Android has opened up a whole new world for me, and here's why ~ it is like when I got my own first "modern" Mac, the iBook G3 500mhz (white). I remember that "glow" to the day... It's like, I wake up, go to work, on the train I pull it out, and there's that ~sense of wonder and amazement~ ... that unexpected delight, that not takes over your life, but spices it up like cinnamon tea.
That is Android 4.x to me now. It's not about ideology so much... It's about delight, wonder and amazement that Apple delivered time and time again, and perhaps, to me, they don't quite seem to be doing that anymore despite highly polished products... It's installing that custom ROM, and seeing a remarkable, unexpected boot animation.
You're not so much a geek, but a child... hearing a new instrument for the first time, getting a new book, hearing a different language, meeting a new friend you just instantly connect with.
All the little things that Apple used to do, like OS X ~ you were always learning new things.
To me, Android does that now, though of course I am glad I have my Mac for rock-solid no-nonsense, beautiful computing. I think I have been getting eyestrain using a PC at work, the fonts and antialiasing in Windows is just really off.
For all those at the intersection of the liberal arts and technology, there is a spirit to Android, that, yes, was born of evil and conniving parents, but now has taken on a life of its own, and do not punish it for the sins of the father.
It is a strange phenomenon with tech companies how people (including us) go on about how much a company is selling when it really doesn't benefit us in any way. I wonder if there are car enthusiast forums where people post about how many units a manufacturer is shipping. I suppose the marketshare matters more with computers as it's about software and hardware support but at this stage, neither Android nor iOS users really have to worry about the numbers. No matter what happens from here on, both have a 400-600 million strong userbase so it really doesn't matter.
I think what has happened is that our lives are so infused with consumerism that we attach meaning to all the things around us. Particularly since a lot of tech now gives us a lot of unimaginable opportunities.
What we are also seeing is all that "long tail" stuff economists have been talking about. I recently saw The Hobbit and was aghast, especially with the 3D HFR 48fps. But fans were raving about it still, and yes, at the cinema, audiences (some at least) seemed to enjoy it while I was squirming uncomfortably in my seat.
It is simply the new capitalist landscape, and in the absence of real causes to fight for, we pick up the placard for our favourite piece of technology, feeling that we have a say now in shaping the landscape that we live in.
It works for Western countries, it also works for developing countries where their new found growth and increase in wages is also frought with more corruption and increased stress as they become "Westernised" without enjoying the actual benefits of "Westernisation". In developing countries it gives a chance, again, to discuss, to share, to learn, to whine, to forget one's troubles.
Always with the "overpriced" and "waking up" remarks as if buyers don't realise how much they are spending and somehow got tricked into buying something expensive and yet if someone bought a big expensive house or car instead of a small house or car, they'd be seen as doing well for themselves.
Good post! This 'waking up' isn't just limited to people writing on forums; even Samsung uses it in their advertisement:
Quite sad indeed. And no, I've never come across a car forum where people do the same. Although in 'real' life some people do like to brag, or point out certain features their new car has over the previous one.
Good post! This 'waking up' isn't just limited to people writing on forums; even Samsung uses it in their advertisement:
"Wake up" was the name of a Samsung ad about a year ago.
Quite sad indeed. And no, I've never come across a car forum where people do the same. Although in 'real' life some people do like to brag, or point out certain features their new car has over the previous one.
Designed for humans? Maybe they're about right for MY hands, but I wear XXL and XXXL gloves.
It's about delight, wonder and amazement that Apple delivered time and time again, and perhaps, to me, they don't quite seem to be doing that anymore despite highly polished products... It's installing that custom ROM, and seeing a remarkable, unexpected boot animation.
You're not so much a geek, but a child... hearing a new instrument for the first time, getting a new book, hearing a different language, meeting a new friend you just instantly connect with.
All the little things that Apple used to do, like OS X ~ you were always learning new things.
I don't really mind the lack of change in things so much. People see it as getting stale and for something to be considered artistic, it really should have an element of change but I look at the iPhone as though it is a single piece of artwork. Like how a Porche always looks like a Porche even though they change bits here and there from one model to another.
Android still has the same setup with the homescreens and I still don't like it. I do like the 'openness' such as being able to drop a .avi on an SD card and play it in an app without even having to think about what sync strategy to use with an iOS device. I like how Apple has gone PC free but I still feel like I'm using an accessory device.
I'd like for the iPad to be able to backup to and restore from offline media of some kind without the intervention of a traditional computer - it can just be an SD card. For people who have an ipad as their only device, there isn't an easy way to upgrade and move data over - iCloud won't backup everything.
I'd like it to be able to easily use local storage using an ad-hoc wifi connection - I still don't know why they haven't brought out an iOS media server like the Time Capsule. I'd like to be able to exchange files like a keynote from an iPad to a laptop user easily without relying on a network (e.g AirDrop but an SD card would be good).
I like that Android is an OS that can just be downloaded and run on anything. There is a feeling of security that no matter what happens to the company in control, it will always be an option on new hardware. I don't think that fact alone makes it a better experience though and there is a benefit to not allowing people to customise certain things. You can replace Android's launcher but it's an important part of the OS and if it is coded badly, it will lead to a bad experience.
I think there are absolutely valid reasons for preferring Android over iOS and even something like a Galaxy S over an iPhone - not everyone has the same taste in design. Where people get annoyed (on both sides) is with far-reaching and unsubstantiated statements about one product's superiority or inferiority vs another, especially when we all the know the history. Apple deserves criticism where it's due but I strongly believe that them making the phone by which all other phones are now judged (and to do it with their first product in a new market no less) is enough that they should be free from taunting about a lack of innovation.
The exaggerated statements about Android's openness / Apple's control, about how much cheaper equivalent Android devices are, about how innovative Google / Samsung etc are should be dialled back or else they start to create a new reality distortion field.
I think I have been getting eyestrain using a PC at work, the fonts and antialiasing in Windows is just really off.
Yeah, I don't know how they can't get that right, it annoys me too. Microsoft has a strange tendency to see the right way to do things as other people have done them and then screw it up somehow (the putz that gets passed the ball and then fumbles and drops it). The XBox is one of the few exceptions.
It is simply the new capitalist landscape, and in the absence of real causes to fight for, we pick up the placard for our favourite piece of technology, feeling that we have a say now in shaping the landscape that we live in.
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Wow. You are totally killing it. Well done.
? Bill Gates (but I think any Fandroid can and will say this as well. Heck, if they did it would be copying)
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
“If you can't make it good, at least make it look good.”
? Bill Gates (but I think any Fandroid can and will say this as well. Heck, if they did it would be copying)
"But Apple's sole purpose is to make things that look pretty at the expense of utility!"
Strange that Gates seems to have not lived by that himself. Couldn't accomplish either.
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Gorilla glass. Because Apple likes to throw stones.
This one stands out, but I don't see how it can be made a "rule", per se.
Feel free to delete it; I was just having fun...but yeah, it's more of a tagline. I remember the webmaster at a company that I worked for created a random tagline (beneath our new company name after a merger) on our intranet, replacing it with a new one with every refresh. Yep, I used IE's F5 quite a lot because he wrote fantastic tag lines.
"I used to own Apple products but I switched to a PC / Android device / non-Apple product and my life is so much better now"
Here's an example:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/21/kantar-iphone-5-boosts-apples-us-smartphone-share-to-53-3-perc/
One of the comments is:
"I'm not too surprised to see that the iphone 5 is selling well, though it was a bit too boring of an upgrade for me... Me and the girlfriend upgraded from the 4S to a Note II and GS3. Jellybean is fantastic and feels like a breath of fresh air coming from iOS."
I love the random anecdotes:
"They've been loosing market share, not to mention I live in iPhones biggest selling region, Los Angeles, and they have gone down considerably in this region."
It's not even based on anything other than presumably this guy wandering around LA looking for Android and iPhone users and determining that iPhones have depleted in favour of Android phones - no doubt because they just threw the iPhones away because if they'd sold them on, they'd either have had to sell out of the region or the number of users would actually be the same. iPhones and Android phones are displacing Nokia and RIM, with Android doing it a bit faster so that's where the growth is coming from.
Here's another one:
"Even the Verizon retail sales folks I run into are getting the Galaxy Note II over iPhone 5 and they know what they're selling."
and another:
"Here in the uk. All i see is people buying android tablets for christmas. These figures will change soon. People are waking up. Apple products are good but way over priced."
Always with the "overpriced" and "waking up" remarks as if buyers don't realise how much they are spending and somehow got tricked into buying something expensive and yet if someone bought a big expensive house or car instead of a small house or car, they'd be seen as doing well for themselves. They don't realise the Kindle and Tab are being sold at either break-even or very low margins and despite that aren't a huge amount cheaper than the iPad Mini - the Galaxy S series isn't that much cheaper than an equivalent iPhone. It just makes me laugh how they come out with things like "all I see is people buying Android" - do they spend hours at a checkout or something? If they are a shopper, the best they'd see is maybe 5 people buying a tablet at the same time.
It is a strange phenomenon with tech companies how people (including us) go on about how much a company is selling when it really doesn't benefit us in any way. I wonder if there are car enthusiast forums where people post about how many units a manufacturer is shipping. I suppose the marketshare matters more with computers as it's about software and hardware support but at this stage, neither Android nor iOS users really have to worry about the numbers. No matter what happens from here on, both have a 400-600 million strong userbase so it really doesn't matter.
As you know, I've been quite vocal on this issue. Of course, I still use a Mac, but I am hesitant to consider the latest MBPs and iMacs.
As for phones though, switching to Android has opened up a whole new world for me, and here's why ~ it is like when I got my own first "modern" Mac, the iBook G3 500mhz (white). I remember that "glow" to the day... It's like, I wake up, go to work, on the train I pull it out, and there's that ~sense of wonder and amazement~ ... that unexpected delight, that not takes over your life, but spices it up like cinnamon tea.
That is Android 4.x to me now. It's not about ideology so much... It's about delight, wonder and amazement that Apple delivered time and time again, and perhaps, to me, they don't quite seem to be doing that anymore despite highly polished products... It's installing that custom ROM, and seeing a remarkable, unexpected boot animation.
You're not so much a geek, but a child... hearing a new instrument for the first time, getting a new book, hearing a different language, meeting a new friend you just instantly connect with.
All the little things that Apple used to do, like OS X ~ you were always learning new things.
To me, Android does that now, though of course I am glad I have my Mac for rock-solid no-nonsense, beautiful computing. I think I have been getting eyestrain using a PC at work, the fonts and antialiasing in Windows is just really off.
For all those at the intersection of the liberal arts and technology, there is a spirit to Android, that, yes, was born of evil and conniving parents, but now has taken on a life of its own, and do not punish it for the sins of the father.
I think what has happened is that our lives are so infused with consumerism that we attach meaning to all the things around us. Particularly since a lot of tech now gives us a lot of unimaginable opportunities.
What we are also seeing is all that "long tail" stuff economists have been talking about. I recently saw The Hobbit and was aghast, especially with the 3D HFR 48fps. But fans were raving about it still, and yes, at the cinema, audiences (some at least) seemed to enjoy it while I was squirming uncomfortably in my seat.
It is simply the new capitalist landscape, and in the absence of real causes to fight for, we pick up the placard for our favourite piece of technology, feeling that we have a say now in shaping the landscape that we live in.
It works for Western countries, it also works for developing countries where their new found growth and increase in wages is also frought with more corruption and increased stress as they become "Westernised" without enjoying the actual benefits of "Westernisation". In developing countries it gives a chance, again, to discuss, to share, to learn, to whine, to forget one's troubles.
Good post! This 'waking up' isn't just limited to people writing on forums; even Samsung uses it in their advertisement:
Quite sad indeed. And no, I've never come across a car forum where people do the same. Although in 'real' life some people do like to brag, or point out certain features their new car has over the previous one.
"Wake up" was the name of a Samsung ad about a year ago.
Designed for humans? Maybe they're about right for MY hands, but I wear XXL and XXXL gloves.
Originally Posted by JeffDM
"Wake up" was the name of a Samsung ad about a year ago.
Wait, wasn't that RIM?
Whoever it was, at least they didn't append "iSheep".
You're right. It was speculation, I forgot the conclusion.
Hadn't noticed ¡
I don't really mind the lack of change in things so much. People see it as getting stale and for something to be considered artistic, it really should have an element of change but I look at the iPhone as though it is a single piece of artwork. Like how a Porche always looks like a Porche even though they change bits here and there from one model to another.
Android still has the same setup with the homescreens and I still don't like it. I do like the 'openness' such as being able to drop a .avi on an SD card and play it in an app without even having to think about what sync strategy to use with an iOS device. I like how Apple has gone PC free but I still feel like I'm using an accessory device.
I'd like for the iPad to be able to backup to and restore from offline media of some kind without the intervention of a traditional computer - it can just be an SD card. For people who have an ipad as their only device, there isn't an easy way to upgrade and move data over - iCloud won't backup everything.
I'd like it to be able to easily use local storage using an ad-hoc wifi connection - I still don't know why they haven't brought out an iOS media server like the Time Capsule. I'd like to be able to exchange files like a keynote from an iPad to a laptop user easily without relying on a network (e.g AirDrop but an SD card would be good).
I like that Android is an OS that can just be downloaded and run on anything. There is a feeling of security that no matter what happens to the company in control, it will always be an option on new hardware. I don't think that fact alone makes it a better experience though and there is a benefit to not allowing people to customise certain things. You can replace Android's launcher but it's an important part of the OS and if it is coded badly, it will lead to a bad experience.
I think there are absolutely valid reasons for preferring Android over iOS and even something like a Galaxy S over an iPhone - not everyone has the same taste in design. Where people get annoyed (on both sides) is with far-reaching and unsubstantiated statements about one product's superiority or inferiority vs another, especially when we all the know the history. Apple deserves criticism where it's due but I strongly believe that them making the phone by which all other phones are now judged (and to do it with their first product in a new market no less) is enough that they should be free from taunting about a lack of innovation.
The exaggerated statements about Android's openness / Apple's control, about how much cheaper equivalent Android devices are, about how innovative Google / Samsung etc are should be dialled back or else they start to create a new reality distortion field.
Yeah, I don't know how they can't get that right, it annoys me too. Microsoft has a strange tendency to see the right way to do things as other people have done them and then screw it up somehow (the putz that gets passed the ball and then fumbles and drops it). The XBox is one of the few exceptions.
I think that's a good analysis of it.