Still, Haswell chips will be out in a little over three months.
This should be a nice boost to battery life. I'd like to see some kind of stand alone GPU in the 13inch (not that I will ever buy one, I like the 15) but I think for a high end laptop, we should see some low end Nvidia in it, even if it was sharing the system memory still.
This "article" is misleading/moronic. Why are prices being compared to the original launch price and not the newly reduced Apple price of $1499? Why is the old price still showing up in the price guide, which is included in the story?
What? They are cleaning things and upping production so they can stop selling the regular models.
They are the only ones left with a healthy PC business. In fact it's better than all others combined. Stop the BS and go read a book.
Apple iPhone is becoming the Macbook which has a shrinking market share. Apple has already reduced prices across all the iMac and MacBook, but still need to reduce it further.
Portable Mac prices continue their downward trend, as one authorized reseller has dropped the price on Apple's entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display to just $1,299, a savings of $400.
That looks like a pretty good price - until you realize that it's about the same price as the vastly less capable Chromebook or fully equipped WIndows Surface Pro. Then it's a GREAT price.
That looks like a pretty good price - until you realize that it's about the same price as the vastly less capable Chromebook or fully equipped WIndows Surface Pro. Then it's a GREAT price.
LOL. Trying to compare different products is a failure. 1TB of free online storage with Pixel chromebook compared to 50 GB at $100 for icloud ($2000 for 1TB). Pixel Chromebook is a great price.
Me, I'd buy the Retina, but other people have different needs.
I really liked the scaled res of 1680 x 1050 on the 13" rMBP when I looked at them at the Apple Store. This is a big selling point for me vs the 1280 x 800 res on the standard MBP. The other nice part is nearly a pound less weight. Just have to be a bit more patient for the Haswell upgrade for better graphics performance.
Except of course people who want an internal optical drive; or standard form factor, user replaceable main storage; or upgradeable RAM.
Best be careful about who you call "retarded", lest your face show up in the picture frame.
You are EXACTLY right. I WON'T buy a $2300-$2800 15" Retina Laptop that will require me to replace a $1500 logic board if $30 memory fails in a year or two. Apple should provide 3YR warranty standard on these and offer 5YR Applecare if they are going to make all their stuff proprietary like this. It like the Apple of old.
A word of wisdom to Apple. Just because something is "thinner" doesn't make it better. How hard would it be to make the Retina MBP with minimally servicable memory and a standard SSDs. Make the laptop 1/8 thicker? Or is the problem that no one will order the systems with a $200-$400 upgrade and have you put in $70 of RAM. Good grief!!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Still, Haswell chips will be out in a little over three months.
This should be a nice boost to battery life. I'd like to see some kind of stand alone GPU in the 13inch (not that I will ever buy one, I like the 15) but I think for a high end laptop, we should see some low end Nvidia in it, even if it was sharing the system memory still.
yes because Apple always does a product upgrade as soon as a new chip is out.
The headline says it's a $400 savings from $1699. This is false. Please correct and update your post.
Originally Posted by Just_Me
yes because Apple always does a product upgrade as soon as a new chip is out.
The last time they didn't was the last iMac. Before that, they did it within a month of launch with just about every product.
The first two models of Mac Pro had processors months in advance.
I don't know, you get a bigger HDD & an optical drive. The machines are hardly slow. SSD is still expensive, especially at Apples rates
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
The last time they didn't was the last iMac. Before that, they did it within half a year of launch with just about every product.
Fixed for you.
Ivybridge April 2012
iMac Nov 2012
Delta 7 months
Sandybridge Jan 2011
iMac May 2011
Delta 5 months
Westmere Jan 2010
iMac July 2010
Delta 7 months
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Originally Posted by saarek
I don't know, you get a bigger HDD & an optical drive. The machines are hardly slow. SSD is still expensive, especially at Apples rates
You dont need apple SSD. You can upgrade yourself easily. MBA are trickier but can be done
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
One has to be very retarded to buy the regular MBP. They will for sure be discontinued this year.
Except of course people who want an internal optical drive; or standard form factor, user replaceable main storage; or upgradeable RAM.
Best be careful about who you call "retarded", lest your face show up in the picture frame.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
What? They are cleaning things and upping production so they can stop selling the regular models.
They are the only ones left with a healthy PC business. In fact it's better than all others combined. Stop the BS and go read a book.
Apple iPhone is becoming the Macbook which has a shrinking market share. Apple has already reduced prices across all the iMac and MacBook, but still need to reduce it further.
Originally Posted by peter236
Apple iPhone is becoming the Macbook which has a shrinking market share.
Except it's growing.
…still need to reduce it further.
They "need" to do absolutely nothing. Stop.
That looks like a pretty good price - until you realize that it's about the same price as the vastly less capable Chromebook or fully equipped WIndows Surface Pro. Then it's a GREAT price.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Still, Haswell chips will be out in a little over three months.
True. I was doing some bandwidth calculations and I'm not sure if the HD4000 can really handle the Retina display.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
That looks like a pretty good price - until you realize that it's about the same price as the vastly less capable Chromebook or fully equipped WIndows Surface Pro. Then it's a GREAT price.
LOL. Trying to compare different products is a failure. 1TB of free online storage with Pixel chromebook compared to 50 GB at $100 for icloud ($2000 for 1TB). Pixel Chromebook is a great price.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
So you would be willing to pay full price for a machine that will not be in production anymore?
You lose a lot on the regular MBP. (screen, design, overall quality, speed, SSD)
What about design? They're almost identical.
Overall Quality - they're both of equal quality.
Speed - Retina is slower at many graphics tasks
SSD - you can get an SSD in a regular MBP.
Me, I'd buy the Retina, but other people have different needs.
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Originally Posted by Gustav
What about design? They're almost identical.
Overall Quality - they're both of equal quality.
Speed - Retina is slower at many graphics tasks
SSD - you can get an SSD in a regular MBP.
Me, I'd buy the Retina, but other people have different needs.
I really liked the scaled res of 1680 x 1050 on the 13" rMBP when I looked at them at the Apple Store. This is a big selling point for me vs the 1280 x 800 res on the standard MBP. The other nice part is nearly a pound less weight. Just have to be a bit more patient for the Haswell upgrade for better graphics performance.
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Originally Posted by Gustav
What about design? They're almost identical.
Overall Quality - they're both of equal quality.
Speed - Retina is slower at many graphics tasks
SSD - you can get an SSD in a regular MBP.
Me, I'd buy the Retina, but other people have different needs.
rMBP are also thinner, lighter but uses more glue compared to ogMBP
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Originally Posted by NeilM
Except of course people who want an internal optical drive; or standard form factor, user replaceable main storage; or upgradeable RAM.
Best be careful about who you call "retarded", lest your face show up in the picture frame.
You are EXACTLY right. I WON'T buy a $2300-$2800 15" Retina Laptop that will require me to replace a $1500 logic board if $30 memory fails in a year or two. Apple should provide 3YR warranty standard on these and offer 5YR Applecare if they are going to make all their stuff proprietary like this. It like the Apple of old.
A word of wisdom to Apple. Just because something is "thinner" doesn't make it better. How hard would it be to make the Retina MBP with minimally servicable memory and a standard SSDs. Make the laptop 1/8 thicker? Or is the problem that no one will order the systems with a $200-$400 upgrade and have you put in $70 of RAM. Good grief!!