Google, Microsoft both post big profit jumps

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  • Reply 21 of 53
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    But their profit won't be able to jump to Apple amount in the next 10 years .

    It doesn't need to.
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  • Reply 22 of 53
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,396member


    "


    MICROSOFT PARTNERS SAY WINDOWS 8 CAUSED ‘MILLIONS OF CUSTOMERS’ TO SWITCH TO APPLE"


     


    http://bgr.com/2013/04/18/windows-8-oem-criticism-447837/

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  • Reply 23 of 53
    christophbchristophb Posts: 1,482member
    slurpy wrote: »

    I can't imagine what it would take for me to go Wintel. Fortunately neither can Microsoft.
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  • Reply 24 of 53
    65c81665c816 Posts: 136member

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    There's one game that I would like to buy and play (AOE II HD), and it's Windows only, but I just can't get myself to actually buy a Windows install, no way in hell. If it was $19, then maybe I might consider it.



    Doesn't it run under Wine/Crossover?


     


    *poke poke*  Yup it does:



    http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=11592

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  • Reply 25 of 53
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    slurpy wrote: »
    "
    <h1 class="entry-title" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;font-size:42px;line-height:40px;text-transform:uppercase;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'itcfranklingothicstd-dmcd', 'Arial Narrow', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">MICROSOFT PARTNERS SAY WINDOWS 8 CAUSED ‘MILLIONS OF CUSTOMERS’ TO SWITCH TO APPLE"</h1>


    http://bgr.com/2013/04/18/windows-8-oem-criticism-447837/

    I agree that Windows 8 is a train wreck but it's hard to swallow that it has pushed millions of Windows customers to switch to Macs in the last 6 month. Windows customer tend to make buying decisions like Ents. I would imagine very few were psyched about Windows 8 because they really wanted a new PC, then disappointed so they went out and bought a Mac. If the Mac numbers this quarter are excessively higher than expectations then maybe, but I'm guessing it would have more to do with the holiday switch and low supply more than something MS recently fudged up.

    Are we including the MS Surface in this because I can see more people thinking the Surface would actually offer the best of both worlds instead of worst of each, then deciding to buy an iPad, but would that really account for millions? I wouldn't think so.
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  • Reply 26 of 53
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member


    So they're making money, eh?


     


    Shares, prepare to dive, dive, dive!


     



    /s

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  • Reply 27 of 53
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post



    Windows customer tend to make buying decisions like Ents.


     


    Classic!


     


    Now, now. Let's not be too hasty!

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  • Reply 28 of 53
    simtubsimtub Posts: 277member


    Back in January we bought 6 Windows 8 Pro licenses for the office when Microsoft was doing the introductory offer at 30 something bucks. So far Windows 8 has been refreshing to use, it's quite stable and I'm quite used to the Metro homescreen even though we're not on touchscreen desktops.

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  • Reply 29 of 53
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 65C816 View Post


    Doesn't it run under Wine/Crossover?


     


    *poke poke*  Yup it does:



    http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=11592



    Great! Thanks for that link.


     


    I will certainly be checking it out.


     


    I do already have AOE II for Mac, but it sure would be nice to be able to play AOE II HD. I just have to figure out if it's worth it for me to basically pay $100 just to play one game. AOE II is that good though, so the answer might just be yes.

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  • Reply 30 of 53
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member


    So the Microsoft partners and the know-nothing IT press are declaring Windows8 a failure, and the Microsoft Windows division posts results that are pretty much in line with the sales of Windows7 from last year.


     


    That makes no sense, so I have to ask another layman's question:


     


    When does Microsoft record a Windows license sale? Is it when the license is sold to the OEM, or when the license is activated by the end user? 

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  • Reply 31 of 53
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member


    And here's a weird thought:


     


    Microsoft is paid a royalty on every Android device sold. Assuming (and it is a big assumption) that Microsoft charges a different rate depending on the device, does this mean that the only Google and Microsoft know the real breakdown of the Android market?


     


    http://www.livemint.com/Consumer/HEPjPSnpMIJ5T6gj4fQ0SM/FoxConn-to-pay-Microsoft-royalties-for-Android-devices.html

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  • Reply 32 of 53
    jrobjrob Posts: 49member
    Is it too much to ask in a story with a headline about "Profit", to get more details on the profit breakdown instead of revenue? Or at least, enough info to know what areas generated the higher profits? I assume for Google it was mostly the 16% higher ad revenue, minus Motorola losses. For MSFT, I have no idea where their profits are generated from this article.

    Also, if you are going to note analyst expectations for EPS and rev/share, please give the actuals as well. Otherwise, we are left with more questions than answers after reading the article, and have to go somewhere else to find answers. Thanks.
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  • Reply 33 of 53


    There is a patch for AOE2x that lets you run it in custom resolutions.  You can skip steam and probabbly run that in wine.


     


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    Great! Thanks for that link.


     


    I will certainly be checking it out.


     


    I do already have AOE II for Mac, but it sure would be nice to be able to play AOE II HD. I just have to figure out if it's worth it for me to basically pay $100 just to play one game. AOE II is that good though, so the answer might just be yes.


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  • Reply 34 of 53
    nikon133 wrote: »
    That is also interesting considering that next-gen consoles are (or will be shortly) announced, and everyone already seem to be in PS4/X720 overdrive hype.

    It won't be called X720. The standard name will be Windows Game Console 8 Pro with Microsoft Kinect Live.
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  • Reply 35 of 53
    qualarqualar Posts: 72member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post


     


    Enjoy those profits while you can, Microsoft.  Your post-PC devices and OS-es aren't even moving the needle.


     


     


    Full AppleInsider story:


     http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/04/18/apples-ipad-expands-lead-in-tablet-use-at-the-expense-of-amazon-android-microsoft-surface



     


    Why would you want any company to fail?  That would put thousands of people out of work.

     

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  • Reply 36 of 53
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ClementineOrange View Post


    There is a patch for AOE2x that lets you run it in custom resolutions.  You can skip steam and probabbly run that in wine.


     



    That's also interesting, I didn't know about that. I'll be checking that out too. I haven't touched AOE II in many years.


     


    Thanks.

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  • Reply 37 of 53
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member
    So, at Google:

    - gross margin stumbled
    - nothing but cost-per-click brings money
    - all other projects either fail or bring no money
    - Android brings money to everybody but Google
    - mobile is rising, but earnings there are even thinner
    - having the "biggest mobile share" with Android, yet 75% of Google's profits come from iOS

    however, it's all perfect, as long as your company doesn't have fruity name...

    world is actually ran by a bunch of criminals....
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  • Reply 38 of 53
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    Yeah. Like when Apple reports the largest profits ever for a tech company in recorded history, some people and media with an agenda don't mention much about that, they just look for any small thing that can be spun as a negative, and boom! They've found their headline.



     


    Core of the problem is the fact that stock valuation is left to so-called market. The should be very simple limitations to variation of valuation based on P/E and voila: you have few millions of vultures on the street.  

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  • Reply 39 of 53
    adybadyb Posts: 205member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

    There's one game that I would like to buy and play (AOE II HD), and it's Windows only, but I just can't get myself to actually buy a Windows install, no way in hell. If it was $19, then maybe I might consider it.

     

    Have you tried Codeweavers Crossover software?
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  • Reply 40 of 53
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Apparently Microsoft confirmed on their call that cheap Windows 8 tablets are coming soon. So does Apple benefit if Microsoft and Google are in a race to the bottom with tablets?
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