Strange law. There is no protectionism involved as far a taxes on Apple and Android products are concerned, however. They are not taxing these products to give a leg up to French tablet makers.
They're taxing the products to give a leg up to French content makers, since French cultural products cannot compete on a level playing field.
France as a whole country is a joke. Billionaires are leaving France because of their higher tax policy on rich.
They better go back to making that Junk Wheat bread and baguette to protect their culture. They look good in kitchen making junk lol
Of course, if you're an American and not wholly ignorant of your own history, you should show a little gratitude, not to mention respect, to the French. Without their help, the outcome of that little skirmish often referred to here as the Revolutionary War might well have been entirely different.
I'd be for that, except for the fact that not only does it legitimize privacy violations, but it gives the state even more of an interest in allowing them to continue.
Unfortunately, this won't be a tax on the wealthy, just a tax on anyone who want to have a smartphone or tablet, most of whom aren't wealthy.
Most of the smartphone/ tablet owners are more wealthy than those don't own the same.
I wouldn't want it in my own country but I don't see the problem - if the French want to use tax this way that's up to the French. 1% isn't going to make a huge difference - VAT (sales tax) differs by much more than this across the EU anyway.
Of course, if you're an American and not wholly ignorant of your own history, you should show a little gratitude, not to mention respect, to the French. Without their help, the outcome of that little skirmish often referred to here as the Revolutionary War might well have been entirely different.
I'm pretty sure that has been repaid innumerable times over in both lives and gold during WWI, WWII, and the Marshal Plan and you can consistently see how ungrateful they are for the much more recent rescuing...
In the end you really can't find a good example of publiclly fianaced art. Such programs aren't culture but rather are welfare programs that generally go to support the unproductive and the useless.
That is complete nonsense. A lot of the best movies in history had (partial) government funding (I am not talking about Hollywood trash), a lot of the best theatres, orchestras and opera houses throughout Europe could not exist without subsidies, pretty much all art schools and universities outside the US are tax funded...
Not quite. As it would also apply to French products (yes, there are French products that do access the Internet), it is not protectionism. It is just another consumption tax (as many EU states already have them on e.g. tobacco, fuel, alcohol, yachts, coffee, energy etc.) and it is absolutely within the rights of each country to define those. If this is a good idea, is a valid question though.
Indeed. I mean, I agree with the intent because typically, when it comes to cultural products like film and music, it's the companies which can lock up the most marketing and distribution channels who end up controlling what gets produced and what doesn't (can't develop a market/following for your products if you can't get them in front of eyes or ears). However, I don't think that taxing products like iPhones and iPads to fund local culture is the answer. I prefer less invasive alternatives like designating that cultural product marketing channels in your country like radio, TV, online music stores, etc reserve a certain percentage for local culture.
You know, AI, I really expect more from you. This article (published anonymously) is the essence of FUD.
If the issue at hand pertains to all foreign devices of this type, then the headline is not:
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Um, the headline does not imply in any way that Apple products are the only ones being taxed. This is an Applecentric website and this could make Apple products more expensive in France. They've had way more bogus headlines on this site and on every other tech site...
I'm pretty sure that has been repaid innumerable times over in both lives and gold during WWI, WWII, and the Marshal Plan and you can consistently see how ungrateful they are for the much more recent rescuing...
That's sort of like saying you've repaid your debt to your mother for giving you life by taking her to McDonald's for Mother's Day, and you wish she'd stop complaining about the ketchup smears on the seats.
You know, AI, I really expect more from you. This article (published anonymously) is the essence of FUD.
If the issue at hand pertains to all foreign devices of this type, then the headline is not:
Apple's iPads, iPhones could be subject to new French 'culture tax'
Grow the "F" up.
Um, the headline does not imply in any way that Apple products are the only ones being taxed. This is an Applecentric website and this could make Apple products more expensive in France. They've had way more bogus headlines on this site and on every other tech site...
But the issue is not Applecentric. It would not potentially make Apple products more expensive, It would potentially make ALL of these products more expensive. THAT is the story here. The headline is a distortion by omission. Oh, you still need help?? OK. That's why the headline is FUD.
They're taxing the products to give a leg up to French content makers, since French cultural products cannot compete on a level playing field.
Except that it's not level when marketing and distribution channels are locked up by a small number of large companies who pay big money to keep it that way. I'm in no way saying that who gets government funding doesn't have similar problems, just pointing out one of the major problems with the so-called "free" market.
It is called a "luxury tax" here in Mexico. Most electronics cost 20-30% more here and if they are considered as luxurious like a mb pro, then even more tax. Such is life.
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Socialism: If it moves, tax it.
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Originally Posted by waldobushman
Strange law. There is no protectionism involved as far a taxes on Apple and Android products are concerned, however. They are not taxing these products to give a leg up to French tablet makers.
They're taxing the products to give a leg up to French content makers, since French cultural products cannot compete on a level playing field.
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Originally Posted by helicopterben
France as a whole country is a joke. Billionaires are leaving France because of their higher tax policy on rich.
They better go back to making that Junk Wheat bread and baguette to protect their culture. They look good in kitchen making junk lol
Of course, if you're an American and not wholly ignorant of your own history, you should show a little gratitude, not to mention respect, to the French. Without their help, the outcome of that little skirmish often referred to here as the Revolutionary War might well have been entirely different.
Originally Posted by auxio
Queue the cornucopia of stereotyping, racism, and reactionary politics.
Can no one use the right cue/queue?!
Most of the smartphone/ tablet owners are more wealthy than those don't own the same.
I wouldn't want it in my own country but I don't see the problem - if the French want to use tax this way that's up to the French. 1% isn't going to make a huge difference - VAT (sales tax) differs by much more than this across the EU anyway.
Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers
france has cultural products?
Champagne?
I'm pretty sure that has been repaid innumerable times over in both lives and gold during WWI, WWII, and the Marshal Plan and you can consistently see how ungrateful they are for the much more recent rescuing...
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Originally Posted by wizard69
In the end you really can't find a good example of publiclly fianaced art. Such programs aren't culture but rather are welfare programs that generally go to support the unproductive and the useless.
That is complete nonsense. A lot of the best movies in history had (partial) government funding (I am not talking about Hollywood trash), a lot of the best theatres, orchestras and opera houses throughout Europe could not exist without subsidies, pretty much all art schools and universities outside the US are tax funded...
Typical US tunnel vision.
You know, AI, I really expect more from you. This article (published anonymously) is the essence of FUD.
If the issue at hand pertains to all foreign devices of this type, then the headline is not:
Apple's iPads, iPhones could be subject to new French 'culture tax'
Grow the "F" up.
What an entirely legitimate use of taxation by a sovereign state!
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Originally Posted by dreyfus2
Not quite. As it would also apply to French products (yes, there are French products that do access the Internet), it is not protectionism. It is just another consumption tax (as many EU states already have them on e.g. tobacco, fuel, alcohol, yachts, coffee, energy etc.) and it is absolutely within the rights of each country to define those. If this is a good idea, is a valid question though.
Indeed. I mean, I agree with the intent because typically, when it comes to cultural products like film and music, it's the companies which can lock up the most marketing and distribution channels who end up controlling what gets produced and what doesn't (can't develop a market/following for your products if you can't get them in front of eyes or ears). However, I don't think that taxing products like iPhones and iPads to fund local culture is the answer. I prefer less invasive alternatives like designating that cultural product marketing channels in your country like radio, TV, online music stores, etc reserve a certain percentage for local culture.
On the other hand ...
Origin of CUE: From the French queue, literally, tail, from Old French cue, coe, queue, from Latin cauda
First Known Use: circa 1749
Um, the headline does not imply in any way that Apple products are the only ones being taxed. This is an Applecentric website and this could make Apple products more expensive in France. They've had way more bogus headlines on this site and on every other tech site...
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Originally Posted by GregInPrague
I'm pretty sure that has been repaid innumerable times over in both lives and gold during WWI, WWII, and the Marshal Plan and you can consistently see how ungrateful they are for the much more recent rescuing...
That's sort of like saying you've repaid your debt to your mother for giving you life by taking her to McDonald's for Mother's Day, and you wish she'd stop complaining about the ketchup smears on the seats.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Can no one use the right cue/queue?!
No, I meant it that way (as in, it's going to be a queue of people putting those type of comments in).
Originally Posted by isaidso
If the issue at hand pertains to all foreign devices of this type, then the headline is not:
Apple's iPads, iPhones could be subject to new French 'culture tax.
Knowing a lot of your past comments, I take it you haven't looked at the URL for this website in a good long while.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
That explains French cinema.
Pretty funny that you use the French word for "movies". Sorta like they created the medium, or something.
Yeah, French culturel pffft!
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Originally Posted by GregInPrague
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Originally Posted by isaidso
You know, AI, I really expect more from you. This article (published anonymously) is the essence of FUD.
If the issue at hand pertains to all foreign devices of this type, then the headline is not:
Apple's iPads, iPhones could be subject to new French 'culture tax'
Grow the "F" up.
Um, the headline does not imply in any way that Apple products are the only ones being taxed. This is an Applecentric website and this could make Apple products more expensive in France. They've had way more bogus headlines on this site and on every other tech site...
But the issue is not Applecentric. It would not potentially make Apple products more expensive, It would potentially make ALL of these products more expensive. THAT is the story here. The headline is a distortion by omission. Oh, you still need help?? OK. That's why the headline is FUD.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
They're taxing the products to give a leg up to French content makers, since French cultural products cannot compete on a level playing field.
Except that it's not level when marketing and distribution channels are locked up by a small number of large companies who pay big money to keep it that way. I'm in no way saying that who gets government funding doesn't have similar problems, just pointing out one of the major problems with the so-called "free" market.