Apple's iPads, iPhones could be subject to new French 'culture tax'

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Apple products like the iPhone and iPad may soon be subject to a new "culture tax," as France ponders levying such a fee on technology giants in order to help preserve its cultural products.

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Smartphones and tablets are at the center of new proposals from former Canal Plus CEO Pierre Lescure, whom France's socialist government tasked with finding new ways of funding French cultural projects in the face of an economic downturn, Reuters reported on Monday. Lescure, noting that consumers are spending more money on hardware than on content, proposed a one percent tax on the sale of Internet-compatible devices.

The new tax would target iPhones and iPads from Apple, but also Android tablets and Amazon's Kindle Fire devices.

Lescure's plan would likely yield roughly 86 million euros per year. That revenue would go to support cultural industries creating French music, images, and videos, according to the proposal. Television users, TV and radio broadcasters, and Internet service providers already pay a similar tax.

In France, cinema, music, and other creative sectors fall under the "cultural exception," which largely protects them from foreign competition. France lobbies heavily for the protection of its culture, with officials from the country expected to push for the exemption of its cultural products from free trade rules in forthcoming talks.

The proposal, expected to go before parliament in the fall, has drawn criticism for contributing to the perception of France as an anti-business nation. As the global economic downturn drags on, France has repeatedly targeted the pocketbooks of the wealthy in order to fund its government and protect social and cultural institutions.

French officials are torn as to the future of the proposal, which some believe oversteps the bounds of the state's role with regard to the private sector. France's Industry Minister recently blocked an attempt by Yahoo to buy a majority stake in the country's video clip site Dailymotion.

The French government previously clashed with Google in 2010 following the proposal of a one percent tax on all online advertising expenses. French officials also this year proposed a tax on the collection of personal data from users.
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  • Reply 1 of 148
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
    A very opportunistic proposal. If they go ahead I hope they also add 1% percent to all fast food and give the money to sports and leisure initiatives. And ditto on cars and gas to fund alternative transport initiatives.
  • Reply 2 of 148
    france has cultural products?
  • Reply 3 of 148
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,860member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    ... France has repeatedly targeted the pocketbooks of the wealthy in order to fund its government and protect social and cultural institutions.



    ...



    The French government previously clashed with Google in 2010 following the proposal of a one percent tax on all online advertising expenses. French officials also this year proposed a tax on the collection of personal data from users.


     


    I'd be for that, except for the fact that not only does it legitimize privacy violations, but it gives the state even more of an interest in allowing them to continue.


     


    Unfortunately, this won't be a tax on the wealthy, just a tax on anyone who want to have a smartphone or tablet, most of whom aren't wealthy.

  • Reply 4 of 148
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    So all this time the Apple Tax was really pronounced Eiffel Tax.
  • Reply 5 of 148
    coffeetimecoffeetime Posts: 116member


    You gotta love the French.  Like Great Britain, allowing vast Muslim immigration turn their "culture" inside out.  Then they elect Hollande (Socialist Party) for President, who immediately wants a 75% income tax rate on revenue over one million euros a year (which predictably sent several rich Frenchmen/women packing to neighboring countries).  Now this "culture tax."  Don't let Obama and the Democrats catch a whiff of this: "Let me be perfectly clear - I'm upset only because I didn't think of it first."  LOL

  • Reply 6 of 148
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    It's protectionism by another name. As I understand it, the EU doesn't allow that, nominally.
  • Reply 7 of 148
    jpdlvmhjpdlvmh Posts: 72member


    Typical b****y frog-tactics.


    Other countries will see this quite rightly as unfair protectionism.


    If this country, where the people don't even like their own fellow human beings let alone "foreigners", made something like iPHONES themselves it would be understandable.


    However, they don't.

  • Reply 8 of 148
    That explains French cinema.
  • Reply 9 of 148
    curmudgeoncurmudgeon Posts: 483member


    Yet another example of a country with too much government.

  • Reply 10 of 148


    France as a whole country is a joke. Billionaires are leaving France because of their higher tax policy on rich.

    They better go back to making that Junk Wheat bread and baguette to protect their culture. They look good in kitchen making junk lol

  • Reply 11 of 148
    Don't be so hard on the French. Just take a look at some of the taxes coming to you soon in the US. All courtesy of the politicians in DC. :-)
  • Reply 12 of 148
    moxommoxom Posts: 326member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    So all this time the Apple Tax was really pronounced Eiffel Tax.

    :D
  • Reply 13 of 148
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,727member


    Queue the cornucopia of stereotyping, racism, and reactionary politics.

  • Reply 14 of 148
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member


    What a disgusting proposal. But then again, I don't really care, since I don't live in France. 

  • Reply 15 of 148
    dreyfus2dreyfus2 Posts: 1,072member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers View Post



    france has cultural products?


     


    Yeah, like the Statue of Liberty.


     


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post



    It's protectionism by another name. As I understand it, the EU doesn't allow that, nominally.


     


    Not quite. As it would also apply to French products (yes, there are French products that do access the Internet), it is not protectionism. It is just another consumption tax (as many EU states already have them on e.g. tobacco, fuel, alcohol, yachts, coffee, energy etc.) and it is absolutely within the rights of each country to define those. If this is a good idea, is a valid question though.

  • Reply 16 of 148
    Strange law. There is no protectionism involved as far a taxes on Apple and Android products are concerned, however. They are not taxing these products to give a leg up to French tablet makers.

    Homogeneity is not a good thing, and I applaud France for having pride in their culture and wanting the French to be in charge of it, rather than moneyed interests. Whether they are going about it in the right way is the question, not their goal.
  • Reply 17 of 148
    France IS a joke. Socialism doesn't work. What a disastrous Country.
  • Reply 18 of 148
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    It is no wonder when there is a war on the French re always yelling retreat! Sooner or later France needs to realize if their culture can't stand on its own then they really don't have a culture worth a damn.

    In the end you really can't find a good example of publiclly fianaced art. Such programs aren't culture but rather are welfare programs that generally go to support the unproductive and the useless.
  • Reply 19 of 148
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    auxio wrote: »
    Queue the cornucopia of stereotyping, racism, and reactionary politics.

    Thankfully [the worst of] those posts have been disappearing from this thread.
  • Reply 20 of 148
    monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,234member


    They'll ban Tomato Sauce for 'cultural reasons' next...

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