Editorial: Apple's billions are building an empire for the future

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  • Reply 121 of 182
    hill60 wrote: »
    That is the alternative to Apple's "staleness", the Comic Sans on your "life companion", a shitty clock which approximates what you can see out the window, and guess what it has "easy mode" so the "static screens of icons" extend beyond the launcher and across all the home screens.

    If this is the crap you want, go grab some some of this "freshness".

    What?

    Your anger has caused you to make no sense.

    What do non stock Android features have to do with staleness? What does HTC have to do with stock Android? And also what does any of this have to do with my personal opinion that iOS is stale? I didn't badmouth iOS. I stated that in my usage due to my preferences I find it stale.

    Does that hurt your feelings?
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  • Reply 122 of 182
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post





    What?



    Your anger has caused you to make no sense.



    What do non stock Android features have to do with staleness? What does HTC have to do with stock Android? And also what does any of this have to do with my personal opinion that iOS is stale? I didn't badmouth iOS. I stated that in my usage due to my preferences I find it stale.



    Does that hurt your feelings?


     


    Most people do not use "stock" Android.


     


    Most people use Samsung's variant.


     


    Buy an LG Nexus 4 phone or wait until the Galaxy Nexus based on the S4 if you have a lazy $650.


     


    As a Nexus 4 owner I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by "stale" and what is so different about Android's "static grids of icons".

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  • Reply 123 of 182
    hill60 wrote: »
    Most people do not use "stock" Android.

    Most people use Samsung's variant.

    Buy an LG Nexus 4 phone or wait until the Galaxy Nexus based on the S4 if you have a lazy $650.

    As a Nexus 4 owner I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by "stale" and what is so different about Android's "static grids of icons".
    android doesn't have a static grid of icons.

    The way I have mine set up is a way that I could never set up iOS even with jailbreak.

    That's it really. Nothing more or less.

    And by stale I literally mean that the homescreen is boring. That's it. That's why I don't think my little opinion matters and why I do not understand why it's such a big deal here. Of all my comments re:iOS 99% have been positive. I said one minor "negative" thing and people are genuinely upset.
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  • Reply 124 of 182
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post





    You mean like they got away with the poor launch of MobileMe, or those 'every cell phone does it' antenna issues. Steve never admitted that Apple failed etc


     


    Right. He fires most of MobileMe and reinvests and produces iCloud and more. He showed through experts that this antennae gate was bs that 99% of users never experienced. Who in the hell apologizes for that? You seem to make it clear you want to, so bend over if it makes you feel better.

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  • Reply 125 of 182
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member

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    Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post





    Let me translate then. An Apple television set would have to be more than a screen. Apple would need to completely redefine how we get full content. And I feel that apple is the ONLY company as of right now who could do so. And I think the world would benefit from such.



    Jesus Christ.


     


    Save your myth for someone who cares.

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  • Reply 126 of 182
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member

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    Originally Posted by isaidso View Post


    "Insulting to those that do". Insulting...?


    Please don't use words you clearly don't grasp the actual meaning of when it's insulting to those that do.



     


    A numbnuts responds to a short-hand comment about an dereliction by the Op-Ed most certainly misusing concept of the Laws of Physics and you get pissy that a Mechanical Engineer calls him an idiot for its misuse. Deal with it. The Laws of Physics have not a damn thing to do with the Theory of Economics and Financial Markets.


     


    Only an idiot equates the two together. You might misconstrue the use of genetic algorithms and applied mathematics that can be used within the Physical Sciences to aide in models we design to improve our understand of the Physical Universe but the Universe most certainly doesn't use such primitive and incomplete theories to exist.


     


    Go defend a a journalist who never worked for Apple. I as a NeXT/Apple alumnus will most certainly call him out on false statements attempting to enhance his Opinion-Editorial when it damn well suits me.

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  • Reply 127 of 182
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sid Knowles View Post


    Someone needs to plot some graphs superimposing profit, market cap, money etc. for Apple, Amazon, Google etc. so that we can see if Apple is really doomed.



     


    I think its pretty clear Apple won't be doom some time with the amount of cash they have.  But that doesnt means it won't start shrinking or lose major markets. That the problem with tech, most industrials company change slowly, up or down, but tech could rise and collapse in a short period of time.

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  • Reply 128 of 182
    dunksdunks Posts: 1,254member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post



    By stale I literally mean that the homescreen is boring.


     


     


    How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?


     


    Aesthetic changes or functional changes?


     


    Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.

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  • Reply 129 of 182
    bugsnwbugsnw Posts: 717member


    DED disparages the idea of Apple buying Dropbox but in fact Apple did have them in their sights.


     


    It might have yielded some good fruit, too. Dropbox works really well. Sync is not one of Apple's strengths.


     


    I hope Apple is throwing money at this problem. Services and Software need a boost.

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  • Reply 130 of 182
    froodfrood Posts: 771member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dunks View Post


     


     


    How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?


     


    Aesthetic changes or functional changes?


     


    Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.



     


    I left the iPhone after the 3gs so I might be a little dated if some of these features are already in iOS.  Would love to see Jony's new spin on things include Widgets for Apple users.  Maybe include a setting in the options for 'legacy' ui for people that prefer the familiar grid of Apps.


     


    But for those that prefer the new:


    Slide to unlock options...   slide left to right = home screen.  Slide right to left = right to email; Down to Up = Texting ; Up to down = straight to phone


     


    Unlimited Apps as widgets might be too chaotic and confusing for Apple's minimalist/simple interface, but they could do 'defined' widgets that a user can turn on or off and reposition on the screen such as:


     


    Weather (up to 5 days, with temps/outlook)


    Stock market ticker (user can set their own portfolio and update frequency, then you get a stock ticker running on bottom of phone screen with your stocks)


    ToDo list widget


    News you are interested in conglomerator widget


    Appointment widget


    etc...


     


    Basically there are a lot of cool things and a lot of Apps you can use on your iPhone- but there are 5 or 6 things people do really really frequently with their phones (those 5 or 6 things are different from person to person).


     


    The goal should be to have your homescreen customizable with Widgets so those 5 or 6 things are there for you and already updated.  Most of the time instead of turning on your phone and then having to go through each app individually or browse the web to get info- you should just have to turn on your phone, glance at it, and turn it back off.

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  • Reply 131 of 182
    Save your myth for someone who cares.

    So you think Samsung has the clout to convince the content providers to shift their distribution model? Or Google? Or Microsoft? Or Nokia? No. Apple is the only company with the clout to do that. How is that a myth? Or did you not read and assume I was bad mouthing someone?
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  • Reply 132 of 182
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by ApplePi View Post


    1. Were the hell is iLife '13 (or for that matter '12)

    2. Aperture (level it up)

    3. Mac Pros (a new range of machines is needed)


    4. Blu-ray playback / burning support in OSX? (stop ignoring blu-ray and put some burners in your machines)



     


    1. Agreed


    2. Agreed


    3. Already stated to be happening.


    4. Never going to happen, ever, for any reason, at any time, under any circumstance, nor should it.

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  • Reply 133 of 182
    dunks wrote: »

    How would you improve upon the iPhone home screen?
     
    Aesthetic changes or functional changes?
     
    Personally I like that iOS sort of gets out of the way; there are very few software barriers between powering on the device and accessing the applications.

    And I respect your opinion. If I had to change iOS home screen it would be a cleaner version of the Android home screen. Hence why I'm using Android and not iOS. The intents and defaults are a plus.
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  • Reply 134 of 182

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by realitychecks View Post





    Or people need to be allowed to have opinions you don't like and you need to get over yourself.



    Why can't I, as an individual being with individual opinions that have no power over anyone, feel that iOS is stale?


     


    The complaint with using the word "stale" is that you have not described what attributes you feel are "stale".  You are certainly welcome "to feel that iOS is stale", but the other persons who responded to your posts want to know your reasons.  Rather than making a nebulous and unsubstantiated assertion, list the attributes of iOS that you feel are "stale"--and define what you mean by "stale":  Is there something that is deficient and detracts from your user experience?  Is there a feature that is offered by a competing product that performs better?  Are you just looking for a visual change?


     


    Once you have offered an argument to support your opinion, then others can respond to your specific points and tell why they agree or disagree with your opinion.  That can make for an interesting discussion, where various participants may draw different conclusions.  Simply asserting a vague opinion does not add value to any discussion.

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  • Reply 135 of 182
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Selling Apple's share in ARM must have been one of the biggest blunders Steve ever made it seems to me. Or was there some benefit other than a short term financial gain I am missing?
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  • Reply 136 of 182
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    The complaint with using the word "stale" is that you have not described what attributes you feel are "stale".  You are certainly welcome "to feel that iOS is stale", but the other persons who responded to your posts want to know your reasons.  Rather than making a nebulous and unsubstantiated assertion, list the attributes of iOS that you feel are "stale"--and define what you mean by "stale":  Is there something that is deficient and detracts from your user experience?  Is there a feature that is offered by a competing product that performs better?  Are you just looking for a visual change?

    Once you have offered an argument to support your opinion, then others can respond to your specific points and tell why they agree or disagree with your opinion.  That can make for an interesting discussion, where various participants may draw different conclusions.  Simply asserting a vague opinion does not add value to any discussion.

    The view of my street is "stale" but that doesn't mean I'll be moving house, besides I only see it when I'm going somewhere or coming home.
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  • Reply 137 of 182
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    And I respect your opinion. If I had to change iOS home screen it would be a cleaner version of the Android home screen. Hence why I'm using Android and not iOS. The intents and defaults are a plus.

    Come off this "opinion" crap. You are being paid to float the "stale" meme here. You are obvious, transparent.

    Tell your handlers that you're going to have to try something else.
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  • Reply 138 of 182
    flaneur wrote: »
    Come off this "opinion" crap. You are being paid to float the "stale" meme here. You are obvious, transparent.

    Tell your handlers that you're going to have to try something else.

    Lol...

    Stale

    Stale

    Stale

    Let's ignore the glowing praises I've given iOS and Apple. I said stale and these sensitive people can't live comfortably in a world where people don't think exactly like them.

    Stale.

    To me. For very superficial reasons, iOS is stale. You'll live.
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  • Reply 139 of 182
    The complaint with using the word "stale" is that you have not described what attributes you feel are "stale".  You are certainly welcome "to feel that iOS is stale", but the other persons who responded to your posts want to know your reasons.  Rather than making a nebulous and unsubstantiated assertion, list the attributes of iOS that you feel are "stale"--and define what you mean by "stale":  Is there something that is deficient and detracts from your user experience?  Is there a feature that is offered by a competing product that performs better?  Are you just looking for a visual change?

    Once you have offered an argument to support your opinion, then others can respond to your specific points and tell why they agree or disagree with your opinion.  That can make for an interesting discussion, where various participants may draw different conclusions.  Simply asserting a vague opinion does not add value to any discussion.

    I'm not trying to argue that iOS is stale. I'm not trying to have an argument at all. I made a passing comment in a sea of praise got trolled by a moderator and several posters and apparently I'm not allowed to hold an unpopular thoroughly explained superficial opinion of a fuckin homescreen.
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  • Reply 140 of 182
    And my comments were deleted again.

    Fine Apple is 100% perfect and I absolutely love the homescreen.

    Now that my single slightly negative thing said of anything Apple evidenced on this forum is remedied as per the hive mind can we continue being on topic?
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