I don't get it. Apple [not so] discretely rips off dozens of UI elements and features from competitors in their iOS7 refresh. All the while they peruse this frivolous 'rubber banding' feature against Samsung. I love Apple, but they are starting to become hypocritical patent-trolling trash.
Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
I don't get it. Apple [not so] discretely rips off dozens of UI elements and features from competitors in their iOS7 refresh. All the while they peruse this frivolous 'rubber banding' feature against Samsung. I love Apple, but they are starting to become hypocritical patent-trolling trash.
Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
Yo, lemme guess.
You also own an iPhone and probably a couple of Macs too? Right?
Doesn't really matter since Google would be highly unlikely to initiate a lawsuit over any of them. They studiously avoid IP lawsuits, having only filed one so far in their 15 years. Apple isn't in any danger of attracting one from treading a little too close to Google IP IMO.
I don't understand how this can be patentable. It's a virtual imitation of physics that humans discovered, not invented.
Funny, I don't recall a letter I received bouncing back when I had reached the end. Ditto for the newspaper article, no matter how hard I tried to see if there was more of it. The rubber-banding might be a virtual representation of physics, but not in the context of the way it is used in iOS.
Funny, I don't recall a letter I received bouncing back when I had reached the end. Ditto for the newspaper article, no matter how hard I tried to see if there was more of it. The rubber-banding might be a virtual representation of physics, but not in the context of the way it is used in iOS.
Put that letter inside a cardboard box and push it toward the side. It will rebound slightly when it can't travel anymore.
Samsung didn't discover anything and Samsung didn't just accidentally stumble upon rubber banding one day, they stole the idea from Apple.
Did I say anything about Samsung? No, I didn't. Samsung shouldn't copy Apple's software in blatant ways, but Apple shouldn't patent things that aren't patentable.
I understand patents very well. Please explain to me how making a virtual copy of a physical phenomenon is patentable.
Here... let me help:
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iOS just shows that Apple aren't above using other ideas and making them better.
What do you think the iPod was to the MP3 player market? The MacBook Air to the ultraportable market? The iPad to the entire PC industry? Hell, we could go on forever...
Tell me that you're a better developer than you are at recognising the difference between genuine, legal competition and infringement...
Put that letter inside a cardboard box and push it toward the side. It will rebound slightly when it can't travel anymore.
Wow, that's a stretch (no pun intended). Now if the thing that was rubber-banding in iOS started to fold or wrinkle, you might have something. Also, why would I be reading a letter in a cardboard box anyway?
Did I say anything about Samsung? No, I didn't. Samsung shouldn't copy Apple's software in blatant ways, but Apple shouldn't patent things that aren't patentable.
I'm not a patent lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one.
Key aspects of Apple's so-called "rubber banding" patent related to scrolling in iOS have been validated by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
You should let the US patent office know that you object to their decision, because it seems to me that they have validated Apple's rubber banding patent.
I don't get it. Apple [not so] discretely rips off dozens of UI elements and features from competitors in their iOS7 refresh. All the while they peruse this frivolous 'rubber banding' feature against Samsung. I love Apple, but they are starting to become hypocritical patent-trolling trash.
Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
Android would not even exist if it weren't for the iPhone.
Not exactly true - Android started out as a copy of Blackberry, then re-oriented their copiers when the iPhone came. A Blackberry copy would have been their maximum success if not for the iPhone.
Exactly. Because everyone knows how much credibility the USPTO has had in recent years... /s
Have you seen the copious amounts of news about US patent reform, coming straight from the top? This lawsuit falls in the frivolous category that Obama is trying to stop.
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I understand patents very well. Please explain to me how making a virtual copy of a physical phenomenon is patentable.
Obviously you don't understand patents. A representation of a physical phenomena in digital form is completely different. Do real-world physics cause those effects to occur on a screen? Wow...
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Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
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Originally Posted by Accidental
I don't get it. Apple [not so] discretely rips off dozens of UI elements and features from competitors in their iOS7 refresh. All the while they peruse this frivolous 'rubber banding' feature against Samsung. I love Apple, but they are starting to become hypocritical patent-trolling trash.
Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
Yo, lemme guess.
You also own an iPhone and probably a couple of Macs too? Right?
Doesn't really matter since Google would be highly unlikely to initiate a lawsuit over any of them. They studiously avoid IP lawsuits, having only filed one so far in their 15 years. Apple isn't in any danger of attracting one from treading a little too close to Google IP IMO.
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Originally Posted by UnbiasedDave
"Fandroids take notice. STEALING others' ideas and justifying it makes you just as sad. I'm hoping for a sledgehammer to Samsung's skull next."
Yeah, just look at iOS 7!
- control centre from Android
- task switching from WebOS
- email from BB10
http://blog.inner-active.com/2013/06/here-are-the-things-apple-totally-ripped-off-from-competitors-for-ios-7/
So before you berate Android for copying, your precious Apple is doing the same thing.
Well, if that's the case, then let them litigate and find out, as Apple has done.
Your claim (and the silly blog you linked to) is nothing more than some pathetic troll rambling.
'Unbiased', my ass.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
I don't understand how this can be patentable. It's a virtual imitation of physics that humans discovered, not invented.
Funny, I don't recall a letter I received bouncing back when I had reached the end. Ditto for the newspaper article, no matter how hard I tried to see if there was more of it. The rubber-banding might be a virtual representation of physics, but not in the context of the way it is used in iOS.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
You should have just written "What is a patent?" for your post. You'd be saying the same thing.
I understand patents very well. Please explain to me how making a virtual copy of a physical phenomenon is patentable.
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Originally Posted by Rob55
Funny, I don't recall a letter I received bouncing back when I had reached the end. Ditto for the newspaper article, no matter how hard I tried to see if there was more of it. The rubber-banding might be a virtual representation of physics, but not in the context of the way it is used in iOS.
Put that letter inside a cardboard box and push it toward the side. It will rebound slightly when it can't travel anymore.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Samsung didn't discover anything and Samsung didn't just accidentally stumble upon rubber banding one day, they stole the idea from Apple.
Did I say anything about Samsung? No, I didn't. Samsung shouldn't copy Apple's software in blatant ways, but Apple shouldn't patent things that aren't patentable.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
I understand patents very well. Please explain to me how making a virtual copy of a physical phenomenon is patentable.
Here... let me help:
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Apple ][: I have a MacBook Pro, but not an iPhone. Thanks.
We're enjoying your disbelief. In fact, it's kind of turning us on...
Where is your Flawgic God now!
What do you think the iPod was to the MP3 player market? The MacBook Air to the ultraportable market? The iPad to the entire PC industry? Hell, we could go on forever...
Tell me that you're a better developer than you are at recognising the difference between genuine, legal competition and infringement...
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
Put that letter inside a cardboard box and push it toward the side. It will rebound slightly when it can't travel anymore.
Wow, that's a stretch (no pun intended). Now if the thing that was rubber-banding in iOS started to fold or wrinkle, you might have something. Also, why would I be reading a letter in a cardboard box anyway?
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
Did I say anything about Samsung? No, I didn't. Samsung shouldn't copy Apple's software in blatant ways, but Apple shouldn't patent things that aren't patentable.
I'm not a patent lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one.
Key aspects of Apple's so-called "rubber banding" patent related to scrolling in iOS have been validated by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
You should let the US patent office know that you object to their decision, because it seems to me that they have validated Apple's rubber banding patent.
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Originally Posted by Accidental
I don't get it. Apple [not so] discretely rips off dozens of UI elements and features from competitors in their iOS7 refresh. All the while they peruse this frivolous 'rubber banding' feature against Samsung. I love Apple, but they are starting to become hypocritical patent-trolling trash.
Don't even get me started on the pull-down notification..
You're right. You don't get it.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Android would not even exist if it weren't for the iPhone.
Not exactly true - Android started out as a copy of Blackberry, then re-oriented their copiers when the iPhone came. A Blackberry copy would have been their maximum success if not for the iPhone.
Exactly. Because everyone knows how much credibility the USPTO has had in recent years... /s
Have you seen the copious amounts of news about US patent reform, coming straight from the top? This lawsuit falls in the frivolous category that Obama is trying to stop.
Edit, let me help by providing the link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/06/04/fact-sheet-white-house-task-force-high-tech-patent-issues
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Here... let me help:
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They're not going to answer my question. Looks like you don't have an answer either. It shouldn't be patentable. Refute me with a real argument.
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Originally Posted by GTR
We're enjoying your disbelief. In fact, it's kind of turning us on...
Where is your Flawgic God now!
I see what you did there
Only logic here. Give me an answer and I'll consider why the rubber banding action should be patentable.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
I understand patents very well. Please explain to me how making a virtual copy of a physical phenomenon is patentable.
Obviously you don't understand patents. A representation of a physical phenomena in digital form is completely different. Do real-world physics cause those effects to occur on a screen? Wow...
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Originally Posted by Rob55
Wow, that's a stretch (no pun intended). Now if the thing that was rubber-banding in iOS started to fold or wrinkle, you might have something.
Not a stretch at all. The UI is a virtual sheet inside a virtual box, reacting to a virtual wall with a virtual rebound.