Dang. Wish I was a skilled enough programmer to apply to one of these positions!
I would dearly love to QA for Apple, but I live practically on the other side of the country. Last time I checked, it looked like all the positions were local to Cupertino.
Your use of the past tense ("shifted") seems to indicate that you think that the original iOS Maps app was written by Google. It was not. It was an Apple-developed application that used Google's mapping data. Google didn't shift any resources away from iOS as there were none to begin with.
Because The original iOS map was basically dependent on Google mapping data, I believe it's more of Google restricting Apple's iOS on new key features at that time like turn by turn. Google was reluctant to give up a key competitive advantage for Android which led to Apple rethinking their dependency on Google's mapping data. Point is competition brings good things to both iOS and Android users.
All well and good, but until all of these acquisitions and hirings make substantial headway in reducing the errors in Apple Maps, the product itself remains well short of what Apple's users need? Apple's making it easier to report problems and now wants to involve users with the "Help Improve Maps" function. But, what good is better problem reporting when the errors in the Maps app persist for months and months after being reported? I've submitted numerous corrections on business listings in my area, but to date, Apple has only corrected one of the errors that I reported.
Even though Google Maps also have a large number of errors, my experiences indicate that they are much more responsive in correcting erroneous data.
Yes, Apple has made a lot of progress with the maps app and improved things to a point where I prefer the turn-by-turn directions over Google. But, the business listings remain the major issue, and progress on that front has been minimal at best, in my experience.
Because I want to use Apple's app and not Google's I always try Maps first to gauge progress and then switch to Google if Maps fails. In the areas I travel, Maps is frequently wrong.
This week I was looking for a location in a more affluent neighbourhood. Maps recognized the obscure name of the LANEWAY between two buildings (not even a real street) and showed its location with pinpoint accuracy.
How about apple give something back to the users who opt in to help Apple profit, rather than take the Google approach approach of exploiting their users data for free.
What Google does is worst. It extracts data from users for free to turn around and sell ads that will be shown to the users based on that data.
With that said, I think it would be interesting to turn providing map data improvements into a game whereby users get points for providing not previously provided corrections. Points could be redeemed on iTunes. I also think it would be cool to allow users to take pictures that could somehow be attached to specific locations, and perhaps voted on inclusions by users.
All well and good, but until all of these acquisitions and hirings make substantial headway in reducing the errors in Apple Maps, the product itself remains well short of what Apple's users need? Apple's making it easier to report problems and now wants to involve users with the "Help Improve Maps" function. But, what good isbetter problem reporting when the errors in the Maps app persist for months and months after being reported? I've submitted numerous corrections on business listings in my area, but to date, Apple has only corrected one of the errors that I reported.
Even though Google Maps also have a large number of errors, my experiences indicate that they are much more responsive in correcting erroneous data.
Yes, Apple has made a lot of progress with the maps app and improved things to a point where I prefer the turn-by-turn directions over Google. But, the business listings remain the major issue, and progress on that front has been minimal at best, in my experience.
Apple's directions, in my view, is better than Google. Apple's biggest weakness is point of interest data, which is provided by Yelp. I suspect Yelp is responsible for making the corrections. Apple either needs to get Yelp to make corrections quicker, look for another company, or work on acquiring the data itself.
Yes, I'd much rather it was Al Qaida that was flying planes over me. /s/
Why would they? Even the US government now claims al Qaida has pretty much been defeated. Boogeymen remain for power-protecting politicians and governments to blame whenever they desire to act unopposed and in their own interest.
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Originally Posted by Dave MacLachlan
Dang. Wish I was a skilled enough programmer to apply to one of these positions!
I would dearly love to QA for Apple, but I live practically on the other side of the country. Last time I checked, it looked like all the positions were local to Cupertino.
your comment immediately made me remember one of my favorite cartoons ...
Because The original iOS map was basically dependent on Google mapping data, I believe it's more of Google restricting Apple's iOS on new key features at that time like turn by turn. Google was reluctant to give up a key competitive advantage for Android which led to Apple rethinking their dependency on Google's mapping data. Point is competition brings good things to both iOS and Android users.
Obama has that covered.
Seeing as you would already know what's wrong with the map in your area you're helping others and Apple, not yourself.
Heh, heh... I should've said "privately owned" drones.
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Originally Posted by Pooch
your comment immediately made me remember one of my favorite cartoons ...
sigh, my life's story lol
That'd be funny except for NORAD and the fact that it's an entirely different argument.
All well and good, but until all of these acquisitions and hirings make substantial headway in reducing the errors in Apple Maps, the product itself remains well short of what Apple's users need? Apple's making it easier to report problems and now wants to involve users with the "Help Improve Maps" function. But, what good is better problem reporting when the errors in the Maps app persist for months and months after being reported? I've submitted numerous corrections on business listings in my area, but to date, Apple has only corrected one of the errors that I reported.
Even though Google Maps also have a large number of errors, my experiences indicate that they are much more responsive in correcting erroneous data.
Yes, Apple has made a lot of progress with the maps app and improved things to a point where I prefer the turn-by-turn directions over Google. But, the business listings remain the major issue, and progress on that front has been minimal at best, in my experience.
Because I want to use Apple's app and not Google's I always try Maps first to gauge progress and then switch to Google if Maps fails. In the areas I travel, Maps is frequently wrong.
This week I was looking for a location in a more affluent neighbourhood. Maps recognized the obscure name of the LANEWAY between two buildings (not even a real street) and showed its location with pinpoint accuracy.
Hmmm...
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Tried to apply for Ground Truth Expert in Los Angeles but it doesn't appear on the site.
It's there on the 2nd page
https://jobs.apple.com/us/search?#specs&ss=ground truth&t=1&so=&pN=1&openJobId=28264350
Both L.A. and New York.
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Originally Posted by Mac_128
How about apple give something back to the users who opt in to help Apple profit, rather than take the Google approach approach of exploiting their users data for free.
What Google does is worst. It extracts data from users for free to turn around and sell ads that will be shown to the users based on that data.
With that said, I think it would be interesting to turn providing map data improvements into a game whereby users get points for providing not previously provided corrections. Points could be redeemed on iTunes. I also think it would be cool to allow users to take pictures that could somehow be attached to specific locations, and perhaps voted on inclusions by users.
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Originally Posted by Woochifer
All well and good, but until all of these acquisitions and hirings make substantial headway in reducing the errors in Apple Maps, the product itself remains well short of what Apple's users need? Apple's making it easier to report problems and now wants to involve users with the "Help Improve Maps" function. But, what good is better problem reporting when the errors in the Maps app persist for months and months after being reported? I've submitted numerous corrections on business listings in my area, but to date, Apple has only corrected one of the errors that I reported.
Even though Google Maps also have a large number of errors, my experiences indicate that they are much more responsive in correcting erroneous data.
Yes, Apple has made a lot of progress with the maps app and improved things to a point where I prefer the turn-by-turn directions over Google. But, the business listings remain the major issue, and progress on that front has been minimal at best, in my experience.
Apple's directions, in my view, is better than Google. Apple's biggest weakness is point of interest data, which is provided by Yelp. I suspect Yelp is responsible for making the corrections. Apple either needs to get Yelp to make corrections quicker, look for another company, or work on acquiring the data itself.
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Yes, I'd much rather it was Al Qaida that was flying planes over me. /s/
Why would they? Even the US government now claims al Qaida has pretty much been defeated. Boogeymen remain for power-protecting politicians and governments to blame whenever they desire to act unopposed and in their own interest.
Even Tom Tom's data is not perfect.
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