I use Excel for my home finances, so I gave the web version of Numbers a try. First I tried to drag over a file saved as an Excel binary workbook (.xlsb). Numbers didn't recognize it as an Excel file. I then tried another file saved as an Excel workbook (.xlsx). That transferred fine.
Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content. When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically. On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear. It's almost unusable at the moment.
I am editing a 118 page document (66,689 words; 240 kb) in Pages via iCloud)
It opens in less than 3 seconds. Scrolling down a single page is virtually instantaneous. And if I grab the scroll bar and go from page 1 to page 118, the refresh is less than a second.
I just doubled the document and I still get the same results.
What computer are you using and what is you internet speed? I am using a Macbook Pro Retina 13; Download Speed = 34.65 MBPS; Upload Speed = 2.12 Mbps
iCloud has been hit or miss for me honestly. But most of my problems come when I'm trying to access iCloud.com from a PC. Not an ideal environment obviously but icloud is advertised to work on PCs as well so that as a real issue.
Advertised to work, and it does. Not advertised to work as well. Maybe that's the distinction?
I just realized the new iOS 7 icon for Contacts uses different color tabs for "A", "B", "C", and "D". That makes the colors seem relevant to the Contacts features. However, I'm not aware of any functionality that assigns different colors to anything alphabetical or anything at all, right?
Seems like a misleading visual cue if it doesn't address actual funactionality %u2013 especially since the other productivity app icons (Calendar, Notes, Reminders) use colors that mimic actual elements in each app.
I never felt that about iCloud.. Thought it was snapy fast. Dont know what your talking about.. What in ur opinion in the application is slow ?
Pretty much everything, frankly.
It even takes a good few seconds to bring up the login dialogue. Click on Mail and enjoy a spinning progress wheel, followed by an unnecessary animation; and usually at least 5 seconds before you actually see any data, sometimes a lot more. Then try and search. And wait.... Then go into the Archive and wait even longer... And then wait some more...
Compare this with Google's web apps and you're talking about a totally different experience, Google is quick as a spring buck. Obv Apple have them nailed on interface design, but that's only so much good when you're stuck on a progress wheel.
I find iCloud to be fine when using Mail.app, Notes.app, Reminders.app, etc on the Mac or iOS because all of the processing is done on-device, but the web client is and always has been terribly slow at accessing libraries and loading up my stuff. These iWork apps are even more complicated than Mail and are taking ages to do anything from where I'm currently sitting.
What are you running it on?
I have a loaded iMac 27" running Mavericks, Maps, FCPX, Xcode, Mail, Quicktime. iTunes 2 Mac Xcode OSX Mapping apps, and 25 browser windows...
It even takes a good few seconds to bring up the login dialogue. Click on Mail and enjoy a spinning progress wheel, followed by an unnecessary animation; and usually at least 5 seconds before you actually see any data, sometimes a lot more. Then try and search. And wait.... Then go into the Archive and wait even longer... And then wait some more...
Compare this with Google's web apps and you're talking about a totally different experience, Google is quick as a spring buck. Obv Apple have them nailed on interface design, but that's only so much good when you're stuck on a progress wheel.
I find iCloud to be fine when using Mail.app, Notes.app, Reminders.app, etc on the Mac or iOS because all of the processing is done on-device, but the web client is and always has been terribly slow at accessing libraries and loading up my stuff. These iWork apps are even more complicated than Mail and are taking ages to do anything from where I'm currently sitting.
Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content. When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically. On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear. It's almost unusable at the moment.
I don't get any delay scrolling to the next or prior 3-5 pages in a 160 page document with images, text, etc. After that, it takes about 2 seconds to load the next pages.
I think it may be something to do with browser caching -- I just emptied the Safari cache and at first, I could refresh and scroll about 14 pages without a delay... after a while, though it went back to 3-5 pages.
I suspect Apple will monitor and fiddle with this during the beta.
Love it! The latest release has some new issues -- but it is very solid!. I use it on 2 "production" iMacs.
It is very fast -- like getting a new machine (I dread going back to ML).
The Maps app is best in class for my needs!
The AppNap feature causes the machines to run a lot cooler than ML -- and a lot less power.
Cool.. I used to get Beta code a LONG time ago so I could play around with it, but I decided I didn't like running unstable code, so I just opt for waiting. I just wanted to see how it was coming along.
I personally wish they would change the theme away from brushed aluminum and maybe go to that black/dark gray look like they seem to be doing with FCP, Logic and some of their apps.
Meanwhile, this is what happened the last time I used Google Maps.
Now, I do like the nice little touch they've done where you pull the globe all the way out and as you run the reflection (realtime!) of the sunlight near the terminator, it changes color in the atmosphere like the sun really does at that height. I think that's a very Apple Detail of them (see how such details are NAMED 'Apple Details', though). But really, when the entire map is completely and utterly unusable and all you have is the Apple Details, well…
Meanwhile, this is what happened the last time I used Google Maps.
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Honestly I never seen anything like that. I have Google Maps on my iPad and the interface looks nothing like that. How exactly are you observing images like that?
<span style="line-height:1.231;">The Maps app is best in class for my needs!</span>
Meanwhile, this is what happened the last time I used Google Maps.
[images]
Honestly I never seen anything like that. I have Google Maps on my iPad and the interface looks nothing like that. How exactly are you observing images like that?
Oh, this is part of a beta? That'd be it, then. Yeah, it's certainly not on an iOS device; I just wanted to point it out here, given how horrible it is.
Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content. When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically. On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear. It's almost unusable at the moment.
I am trying iCloud at the moment at my summer house in the middle of nowhere over a lousy 3G network (download speed 1,5 M, upload 1,5 M) and Pages is incredibly fast! Can't wait to get back home to try it over proper internet connection.
I'm using 15" MacBook Pro (2,6 GHz Core i7, 16 GB RAM).
Oh, this is part of a beta? That'd be it, then. Yeah, it's certainly not on an iOS device; I just wanted to point it out here, given how horrible it is.
1) What I don't understand is why they rely on Google Maps in the FMI section; if it's beta why not use beta software from 10.9 as well? Same applies to Aperture, possibly likely also in iPhoto.
2) I find it easier to use the first 5 apps in a Safari window than having 5 separate apps open. This can't possibly mean I long for the days of Outlook, can it ¿
I'll have to check as I forget what it was now … but I was using something in either Mavericks or iOS 7 yesterday and noticed it used Apple Maps where the previous iteration had used Google … I think things are changing over.
side bar / I was shocked to see leather stitching is still on Find My Friends in the latest updates … surely that will be gone by the GM particularly as that is the epitome of the criticism in that area. Having said that I am thrilled with the realistic use of graphics in Logic pro X
Now, I do like the nice little touch they've done where you pull the globe all the way out and as you run the reflection (realtime!) of the sunlight near the terminator, it changes color in the atmosphere like the sun really does at that height. I think that's a very Apple Detail of them (see how such details are NAMED 'Apple Details', though). But really, when the entire map is completely and utterly unusable and all you have is the Apple Details, well…
Wowa … That looks like my entire Mac screen last night after half a bottle of 18 year old Glenfiddich
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Originally Posted by antkm1
So to offer this on iCloud.com to users who have never used iWork before is basically a lost cause.
Just like giving iTunes and iPod access PC users was a lost cause.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content. When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically. On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear. It's almost unusable at the moment.
I am editing a 118 page document (66,689 words; 240 kb) in Pages via iCloud)
It opens in less than 3 seconds. Scrolling down a single page is virtually instantaneous. And if I grab the scroll bar and go from page 1 to page 118, the refresh is less than a second.
I just doubled the document and I still get the same results.
What computer are you using and what is you internet speed? I am using a Macbook Pro Retina 13; Download Speed = 34.65 MBPS; Upload Speed = 2.12 Mbps
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Originally Posted by blackbook
iCloud has been hit or miss for me honestly. But most of my problems come when I'm trying to access iCloud.com from a PC. Not an ideal environment obviously but icloud is advertised to work on PCs as well so that as a real issue.
Advertised to work, and it does. Not advertised to work as well. Maybe that's the distinction?
Seems like a misleading visual cue if it doesn't address actual funactionality %u2013 especially since the other productivity app icons (Calendar, Notes, Reminders) use colors that mimic actual elements in each app.
What are you running it on?
I have a loaded iMac 27" running Mavericks, Maps, FCPX, Xcode, Mail, Quicktime. iTunes 2 Mac Xcode OSX Mapping apps, and 25 browser windows...
Every iCloud beta app runs smooth and fast.
Here's a pretty good review:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2047239/hands-on-iwork-for-icloud-beta-almost-as-good-as-mac-ios-versions.html#tk.rss_all
I don't get any delay scrolling to the next or prior 3-5 pages in a 160 page document with images, text, etc. After that, it takes about 2 seconds to load the next pages.
I think it may be something to do with browser caching -- I just emptied the Safari cache and at first, I could refresh and scroll about 14 pages without a delay... after a while, though it went back to 3-5 pages.
I suspect Apple will monitor and fiddle with this during the beta.
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
What are you running it on?
I have a loaded iMac 27" running Mavericks, Maps, FCPX, Xcode, Mail, Quicktime. iTunes 2 Mac Xcode OSX Mapping apps, and 25 browser windows...
Every iCloud beta app runs smooth and fast.
Here's a pretty good review:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2047239/hands-on-iwork-for-icloud-beta-almost-as-good-as-mac-ios-versions.html#tk.rss_all
So, how do you like Mavericks? What's your prognosis?
Love it! The latest release has some new issues -- but it is very solid!. I use it on 2 "production" iMacs.
It is very fast -- like getting a new machine (I dread going back to ML).
The Maps app is best in class for my needs!
The AppNap feature causes the machines to run a lot cooler than ML -- and a lot less power.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Love it! The latest release has some new issues -- but it is very solid!. I use it on 2 "production" iMacs.
It is very fast -- like getting a new machine (I dread going back to ML).
The Maps app is best in class for my needs!
The AppNap feature causes the machines to run a lot cooler than ML -- and a lot less power.
Cool.. I used to get Beta code a LONG time ago so I could play around with it, but I decided I didn't like running unstable code, so I just opt for waiting. I just wanted to see how it was coming along.
I personally wish they would change the theme away from brushed aluminum and maybe go to that black/dark gray look like they seem to be doing with FCP, Logic and some of their apps.
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
The Maps app is best in class for my needs!
Meanwhile, this is what happened the last time I used Google Maps.
Now, I do like the nice little touch they've done where you pull the globe all the way out and as you run the reflection (realtime!) of the sunlight near the terminator, it changes color in the atmosphere like the sun really does at that height. I think that's a very Apple Detail of them (see how such details are NAMED 'Apple Details', though). But really, when the entire map is completely and utterly unusable and all you have is the Apple Details, well…
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
The Maps app is best in class for my needs!
Meanwhile, this is what happened the last time I used Google Maps.
[images]
Honestly I never seen anything like that. I have Google Maps on my iPad and the interface looks nothing like that. How exactly are you observing images like that?
It looks more like Google Earth or the Goongle Maps beta on the web.
...maybe he was using the Chrome browser
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
…the Goongle Maps beta on the web.
Oh, this is part of a beta? That'd be it, then. Yeah, it's certainly not on an iOS device; I just wanted to point it out here, given how horrible it is.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Also in the new Pages beta, if you scroll down even a single page, there is a one second pause before it can display the content. When you work with bigger documents, the wait increases dramatically. On a small 100 page document, you can scroll the view down a page and a half and you will generally wait two or three seconds for the content to appear. It's almost unusable at the moment.
I am trying iCloud at the moment at my summer house in the middle of nowhere over a lousy 3G network (download speed 1,5 M, upload 1,5 M) and Pages is incredibly fast! Can't wait to get back home to try it over proper internet connection.
I'm using 15" MacBook Pro (2,6 GHz Core i7, 16 GB RAM).
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
…the Goongle Maps beta on the web.
Oh, this is part of a beta? That'd be it, then. Yeah, it's certainly not on an iOS device; I just wanted to point it out here, given how horrible it is.
So you just made up some bull shit or what?
I'll have to check as I forget what it was now … but I was using something in either Mavericks or iOS 7 yesterday and noticed it used Apple Maps where the previous iteration had used Google … I think things are changing over.
side bar / I was shocked to see leather stitching is still on Find My Friends in the latest updates … surely that will be gone by the GM particularly as that is the epitome of the criticism in that area. Having said that I am thrilled with the realistic use of graphics in Logic pro X
Wowa … That looks like my entire Mac screen last night after half a bottle of 18 year old Glenfiddich