It's not a consumer machine. What in the world makes you think that? It's not a prosumer machine. What in the world makes you think that? My stars.
Well yes. But the iMac is a perfectly acceptable professional machine. There's the problem. IT heads are not likely to ok a Mac Pro. Rich consumers might buy one.
The iPad and the iPhone are the only products that require events. They can silently update the Macbooks, iMac and MacPro whenever they want.
Although the MacPro looks stunning, I wonder why Apple even bothers anymore, no consumer needs that kind of power, or can afford the price tag. Any prosumer who does need that kind of power would be much smarter to build their own machine for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sorry Apple, but when you are dealing with VERY powerful machines, it doesn't much matter what they look like, only idiots (most consumers) care about that stuff, and they don't really have that much money.
I've never bought that, bolded by me, line of thought. Just because someone's work requires a lot of computer power doesn't at all mean they have to drag out the solder gun and the wire clippers and build it themselves. Heavyweight numerical analysis or imaging doesn't equate with either desire or necessity for electronics tinkering.
Back in the day I needed the power of a Caterpillar D-9: I did not build it myself....
The iPad and the iPhone are the only products that require events. They can silently update the Macbooks, iMac and MacPro whenever they want.
Although the MacPro looks stunning, I wonder why Apple even bothers anymore, no consumer needs that kind of power, or can afford the price tag. Any prosumer who does need that kind of power would be much smarter to build their own machine for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sorry Apple, but when you are dealing with VERY powerful machines, it doesn't much matter what they look like, only idiots (most consumers) care about that stuff, and they don't really have that much money.
I know the market is small, but there are professionals...architects, graphic designers, sound, video, that need pro hardware. I did build a Hackintosh, completely awesome, not terribly less money for the performance... cheap case... but i would not run mission critical apps on it. Hardware/Software integration is so important. While I am amazed at the resilience of OSX to work with the computer I built, its still not a true Mac, and nothing has come close to my 2009 Mac Pro for value... We have many iMacs and they just don't cut it.
Back to the topic... No one has mentioned iPods... Are we getting a plastic iPod Touch for $199... are they going to surprise us with a wearable iPod line... Its hard to keep iPhones secret because of the testing with carrier that are involved, but if my memory is correct, the last iPod touch was a design change didn't escape to the rumor sites... Maybe an event later in the year, but I hoping for some iPod surprises.
Back to the topic... No one has mentioned iPods... Are we getting a plastic iPod Touch for $199... are they going to surprise us with a wearable iPod line... Its hard to keep iPhones secret because of the testing with carrier that are involved, but if my memory is correct, the last iPod touch was a design change didn't escape to the rumor sites... Maybe an event later in the year, but I hoping for some iPod surprises.
I think the current iPod Touch line will be the same for at least one more year. The iPod sales have declined every year since they peaked in 2009. The only model worth updating is the iPod Touch, to gain Wifi AC, the A6, and the iPhone 5's GPU Chip from Imagination Technologies. And the sales have decreased since they increased the price of the units to 299 because they got rid of the 16 GB version, even if it did make a lot of sense to sell the 32 gb version... The way apple is payed for their products is the following...
Pay for devs work
Retail work
Manufacturing work
Store electricity and water bills
R+ D
Health insurance and 401k for employees
Materials and chips used
Lawyers and marketing team
iCloud servers and administrators/ installers around the U.S. like the one they recently built.
24/7 assistance at apple.com
Stock price
Architects and Builders of Apple Storesand Apple's HQ's in Santa Clara, Palo Alto, and the ex-HP Headquarters site
That's the reason Apple products are so expensive... not because they want to make them.
But yeah, if they update an iPod it would be in the next year since they have so many projects going on right now. Last year they updated the Nano surprisingly, but the shuffle stayed the same. Maybe well see memory updates to them someday... I really wanted Apple to make an iPod Shuffle with iTunes Home Sharing over Wifi or LTE to stream my music from my home computer but that seems like Overkill for 49 dollars.
Well yes. But the iMac is a perfectly acceptable professional machine. There's the problem. IT heads are not likely to ok a Mac Pro. Rich consumers might buy one.
Just visit your local tv station to see how many Mac pros they use, or any pro video production house or just go to a NAB show and count how many Mac Pros you see. It's a crapload of them and they have been waiting for new hardware for at least 2 years.
Well yes. But the iMac is a perfectly acceptable professional machine. There's the problem. IT heads are not likely to ok a Mac Pro. Rich consumers might buy one.
Just visit your local tv station to see how many Mac pros they use, or any pro video production house or just go to a NAB show and count how many Mac Pros you see. It's a crapload of them and they have been waiting for new hardware for at least 2 years.
True. Marvin posted a couple of links over here, on the issue of Mac (Pro's) used by the beeb.
Not so certain on their waiting for two years though, the incremental HW upgrades the 'old' Mac Pro got were still valuable to the pro market. The whiners on the internet are the ones who post, the ones who buy post way less, or so I would imagine.
Just visit your local tv station to see how many Mac pros they use, or any pro video production house or just go to a NAB show and count how many Mac Pros you see. It's a crapload of them and they have been waiting for new hardware for at least 2 years.
True. Marvin posted a couple of links over here, on the issue of Mac (Pro's) used by the beeb.
That was more about seats of FCP than Mac Pros, they primarily have Mac laptops. If you run the purchase numbers in one of the links, the average unit price is around the entry 15" MBP.
Weta has some Mac hardware as shown here:
[VIDEO]
Quite a few laptops. The concept artists use the Mac Pros at 2:02 hooked up to Cinema Displays.
I want to see Craig Federighi kicking back in a recliner, with a new iPhone 5C and snap-on case gamepad in hand playing the new COD iOS game. Then AirPlay mirror it to the new "Set Top Box". Then keep on playing with a wireless bluetooth gamepad connected directly to the new "Set Top Box".
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Originally Posted by alienzed
Although the MacPro looks stunning, I wonder why Apple even bothers anymore, no consumer needs that kind of power, or can afford the price tag.
It's not a consumer machine. What in the world makes you think that? It's not a prosumer machine. What in the world makes you think that? My stars.
Well yes. But the iMac is a perfectly acceptable professional machine. There's the problem. IT heads are not likely to ok a Mac Pro. Rich consumers might buy one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alienzed
The iPad and the iPhone are the only products that require events. They can silently update the Macbooks, iMac and MacPro whenever they want.
Although the MacPro looks stunning, I wonder why Apple even bothers anymore, no consumer needs that kind of power, or can afford the price tag. Any prosumer who does need that kind of power would be much smarter to build their own machine for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sorry Apple, but when you are dealing with VERY powerful machines, it doesn't much matter what they look like, only idiots (most consumers) care about that stuff, and they don't really have that much money.
I've never bought that, bolded by me, line of thought. Just because someone's work requires a lot of computer power doesn't at all mean they have to drag out the solder gun and the wire clippers and build it themselves. Heavyweight numerical analysis or imaging doesn't equate with either desire or necessity for electronics tinkering.
Back in the day I needed the power of a Caterpillar D-9: I did not build it myself....
Quote:
Originally Posted by alienzed
The iPad and the iPhone are the only products that require events. They can silently update the Macbooks, iMac and MacPro whenever they want.
Although the MacPro looks stunning, I wonder why Apple even bothers anymore, no consumer needs that kind of power, or can afford the price tag. Any prosumer who does need that kind of power would be much smarter to build their own machine for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sorry Apple, but when you are dealing with VERY powerful machines, it doesn't much matter what they look like, only idiots (most consumers) care about that stuff, and they don't really have that much money.
I know the market is small, but there are professionals...architects, graphic designers, sound, video, that need pro hardware. I did build a Hackintosh, completely awesome, not terribly less money for the performance... cheap case... but i would not run mission critical apps on it. Hardware/Software integration is so important. While I am amazed at the resilience of OSX to work with the computer I built, its still not a true Mac, and nothing has come close to my 2009 Mac Pro for value... We have many iMacs and they just don't cut it.
Back to the topic... No one has mentioned iPods... Are we getting a plastic iPod Touch for $199... are they going to surprise us with a wearable iPod line... Its hard to keep iPhones secret because of the testing with carrier that are involved, but if my memory is correct, the last iPod touch was a design change didn't escape to the rumor sites... Maybe an event later in the year, but I hoping for some iPod surprises.
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Originally Posted by xZu
Back to the topic... No one has mentioned iPods... Are we getting a plastic iPod Touch for $199... are they going to surprise us with a wearable iPod line... Its hard to keep iPhones secret because of the testing with carrier that are involved, but if my memory is correct, the last iPod touch was a design change didn't escape to the rumor sites... Maybe an event later in the year, but I hoping for some iPod surprises.
I think the current iPod Touch line will be the same for at least one more year. The iPod sales have declined every year since they peaked in 2009. The only model worth updating is the iPod Touch, to gain Wifi AC, the A6, and the iPhone 5's GPU Chip from Imagination Technologies. And the sales have decreased since they increased the price of the units to 299 because they got rid of the 16 GB version, even if it did make a lot of sense to sell the 32 gb version... The way apple is payed for their products is the following...
Pay for devs work
Retail work
Manufacturing work
Store electricity and water bills
R+ D
Health insurance and 401k for employees
Materials and chips used
Lawyers and marketing team
iCloud servers and administrators/ installers around the U.S. like the one they recently built.
24/7 assistance at apple.com
Stock price
Architects and Builders of Apple Stores and Apple's HQ's in Santa Clara, Palo Alto, and the ex-HP Headquarters site
That's the reason Apple products are so expensive... not because they want to make them.
But yeah, if they update an iPod it would be in the next year since they have so many projects going on right now. Last year they updated the Nano surprisingly, but the shuffle stayed the same. Maybe well see memory updates to them someday... I really wanted Apple to make an iPod Shuffle with iTunes Home Sharing over Wifi or LTE to stream my music from my home computer but that seems like Overkill for 49 dollars.
Just visit your local tv station to see how many Mac pros they use, or any pro video production house or just go to a NAB show and count how many Mac Pros you see. It's a crapload of them and they have been waiting for new hardware for at least 2 years.
True. Marvin posted a couple of links over here, on the issue of Mac (Pro's) used by the beeb.
Not so certain on their waiting for two years though, the incremental HW upgrades the 'old' Mac Pro got were still valuable to the pro market. The whiners on the internet are the ones who post, the ones who buy post way less, or so I would imagine.
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Originally Posted by HammerofTruth
Just visit your local tv station to see how many Mac pros they use, or any pro video production house or just go to a NAB show and count how many Mac Pros you see. It's a crapload of them and they have been waiting for new hardware for at least 2 years.
The big boys run Linux on HP/IBM blade servers.
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/features/creative-lifestyle/weta-rendering-lord-of-rings/
That was more about seats of FCP than Mac Pros, they primarily have Mac laptops. If you run the purchase numbers in one of the links, the average unit price is around the entry 15" MBP.
Weta has some Mac hardware as shown here:
[VIDEO]
Quite a few laptops. The concept artists use the Mac Pros at 2:02 hooked up to Cinema Displays.
Mind boggling numbers there. I wonder what software they use. Would it be mainly their own?
I like these 2 minute docu's!
*off to Weta, ILM and similar websites*
Apple owes us some gamepad mojo!